XT50 has FS 1,2,3 and C slots on the Film Sim dial. I guess we can save the custom film sim recipes on XT50?
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Recipies can only be saved as custom settings. You than have to turn the new dial to C and than you can choose them. FS1 - FS3 is only for saving Filmsimulations not explicitly written on the dial
Which is a bummer imo. But maybe Fujifilm have determined through marketing research that very few users actually tweak the built in film sims. And that 3 FS are enough for those who do.
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MJ_Photo38
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I thought the "C" position is just a command position to allow you to cycle film sims with one of the command dials, just like there is a "C" position on ISO dials and exposure comp dials.
So still no recipes on there, to me all of that is only in the custom user profiles you have access to in the Q menu, like any other Fujifilm camera. Or at least that's my understanding of it.
beneix
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My understanding is that those three positions on the wheel are for saving one of the factory film simulations; you cannot save anything you have customised yourself.
BeatX
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Omar Gonzalez said so in his first impressions review of X-T50 (in 3:47 min)
So I do assume, it is true after all.
beneix
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It is contradicted here: https://fujixweekly.com/2024/05/16/...ttings-14-new-film-simulation-recipes-yes-14/
BeatX
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Indeed, You are right!
X-T50 has the ability to save SOOC .jpg settings as recipes, and Omar Gonzalez misled everyone!
From fujixweekly:
"Just to be completely clear, the way this works is that you program the Recipe (that’s found below) into either a C1-C7 slot, or (as I did it) into the IQ Menu set. Then, when this Recipe is selected, simply rotate the Film Dial to choose the film simulation that you want to use. There are eight built-into-the-knob film sims, plus three custom, plus “C” (which is whatever you have programmed into the Recipe)."
Ehhh... YouTubers... Thx Omar, GJ with spreading disinformation that I later repeat myself for others :-(
Sorry for misleading everyone - my bad.
although this was not my intention.
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To be fair to Omar I think he says 'You can't save recipes on here' and points to the film simulation dial, so I think he's just saying that you can't use the film sim dial to recall custom recipes.
I agree it's ambiguous, though, and could be interpreted as meaning 'you can't save recipes on the camera'...
Anyway, all cleared up now!
MJ_Photo38
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Even comparing launch price in the US : 1400 vs 1700. That's only a $300 difference, while it used to be 700 to 800. The X-T5 didn't increase in price compared to the X-T4 while the X-T50 is $500 more than the X-T30.
Sure, we can check the prices in 3 years, but the price of the X-T5 will continue to drop also.
European pricing is pretty funny when this is what Google gets you :
X-Tx0 cameras always had cheaper builds than the X-T series, as well as the X100 series. Generally, thinner metal panels, a bit more plastic used. It seems to still be the case according to reviews I've seen. Also, much lower end EVF, and lower res back panel play a part imho.
Also, both the X100V and X100VI are weather sealed on the body. The front of the lens isn't but you can seal the camera by putting a filter on the lens to seal it. According to Fujifilm the weather sealing on the X100VI's body is about as weather resistant as the X-T5.
I noticed it quite a bit when I used them
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You can not save Custom recipies directly on the dial!
You can save them just as you alwys could in the custom settings.
When you turn the dial to C, than you can toogle with the other control wheels through the custom settings. For this you will not touch the filmsim wheel again.
What Richie descripes is that he created a base setting which he stores in either one of the C banks which works with all simulations and than toggles the simualtion by using the wheel
So people which use a lot of reciies don't need the dial or keep it always on C
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MPB is selling used cameras.
MJ_Photo38
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Yes I know, my point was that a lightly used X-T5 is already cheaper than a brand new X-T50.MPB is selling used cameras.
As far as I can tell, that never happened before
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If so, all the more useless for those who really want tp exploit the camera's jpeg capabilities.
Still a more than sub par way to set up and use "on the fly" recipes: to see them, first you have to set the film sim on the dial, and then select the recipe from C1-C7 that is programmed with that film sim? Or in C on the film dial, you use the dial to set and view recipes C1-C7. In either case, one has used the C1 -C7 settings for film sims/ recipes only. So that leaves the Q settings for other variable settings. Hmmm.
I hope that those bying this camera for extensive use of film sims / recipes are soon rewarded with a software update allowing at least to save recipes to the 3 free slots on the dial.
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biza43
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MPB is for used. Again, you are comparing different things. The XTxx series has been maturing in a way to bring it closer to the XTx. Hence, the price differential has been narrowed. Rightly or wrongly, we shall see how it sells.Even comparing launch price in the US : 1400 vs 1700. That's only a $300 difference, while it used to be 700 to 800. The X-T5 didn't increase in price compared to the X-T4 while the X-T50 is $500 more than the X-T30.
Sure, we can check the prices in 3 years, but the price of the X-T5 will continue to drop also.
European pricing is pretty funny when this is what Google gets you :
X-Tx0 cameras always had cheaper builds than the X-T series, as well as the X100 series. Generally, thinner metal panels, a bit more plastic used. It seems to still be the case according to reviews I've seen. Also, much lower end EVF, and lower res back panel play a part imho.
Also, both the X100V and X100VI are weather sealed on the body. The front of the lens isn't but you can seal the camera by putting a filter on the lens to seal it. According to Fujifilm the weather sealing on the X100VI's body is about as weather resistant as the X-T5.
I noticed it quite a bit when I used them
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beneix
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Sure, while the X-T50 is rated as having a battery life of 305 (down from 380 for my X-T30), the X-S20 has a whopping 750! Another argument for the X-S20.
No, we can’t. An appalling limitation, but not one that will trouble Fuji’s new target audience.
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