beneix
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The X-T50 is wider, higher, deeper and 14% heavier than the X-T30/X-T30II, sadly.
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Fujifilm X-T50 Full Specs and Images Leaked!
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Jeff Biscuits
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Oh… that’s quite uninteresting then
Apart from the useless film sim dial, it looks like a nice camera overall.
But!
It's priced too high. Small price difference from the X-T5, small size difference also.
For just a bit of savings you're getting the same old EVF, same old battery, single-tilt screen, single card slot (not that I expected them to upgrade any of those, though now that it's a UHS-II slot it's an improvement). Of course, IBIS adds costs but I don't think it's worth the price increase. It's as if they've priced it so high in order to lower the demand for the camera.
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The X-T30ii is continuing to be sold as their lower priced, compact model though isn't it?
beneix
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Yes, but my point was that the X-T50 is not smaller. I suppose the OP meant smaller in comparison not to its predecessor but compared to other Fuji cameras, e.g. the T-50.
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Morris0
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Apparently Fuji has made it work. Those batteries don't last long when you are busy so one will have to carry extras, just like you do with most of Fuji's cameras.
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jerclarke
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Reviews are out and confirming a few facts:
They can always fix with firmware, but why wouldn’t they have it at launch if they wanted to?
- the film sim dial can’t be customized to do something else
- the film sim dial also can’t be used for “recipes”. Film sim only!
- PetapixelTV finds the new Q button placement solves the problems from X-T30.
They can always fix with firmware, but why wouldn’t they have it at launch if they wanted to?
For me, the only thing that is 'better' than my X-T5's is the weight. The other differences (EVF, single battery, 2 way tilt etc.) are similar to my X100VI.
I will be trying one out next Friday (not tomorrow) and should have a better opinion after that.
Alan
I will be trying one out next Friday (not tomorrow) and should have a better opinion after that.
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I wonder how long Fujifilm will be able to keep the prices of the XT50 and XT5 so close. After watching the summit, they seem too close in the major specifications, and the size gap also narrowed. I suspect they’ll need to reduce the price of the XT50 or increase the XT5.
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Completely expected.
I’ve said it before: Fuji just doesn’t grasp recipes. Presumably they consciously don’t want to.
If they did then we’d already have had other features: for instance being able to use raw processing in playback mode by selecting one of the custom settings banks instead of having to specify all the parameters individually. Or being able to configure more than seven recipes, but assign them to the seven slots at will. The fact that they merged shooting settings into the custom settings model implies that they’re actively undermining the power of the recipe.
They seem to think that the film sim is what’s important, not the total combination of image parameters.
Presumably this is because they are precious about the film sims, which in a way is understandable.
But if that’s the case then they would probably be better off making film sims and recipes equal-class citizens (at least for the heritage stock names like Velvia, Provia etc): so that if, say, you used Reala Ace or Acros, you’d get a carefully produced facsimile of that film stock; but users could create recipes as their own custom film stocks. So you could choose the readymade “Velvia” (and not configuring it to some weird variation with low contrast, a colour cast and a ton of grain) or a custom “Biscuitchrome” style (based on whatever options are available).
This would fit perfectly on the dial, and allow Fuji to retain the precise qualities of their film sims, as well as retaining all the goodness of recipes and keeping them independent of shooting settings. At this point, the dial more than makes sense; it would have huge appeal.
The whole “recipes vs film sims” thing is just confused, where users want one thing, Fuji are determined to focus on the other, and the different bits of different bodies’ user interfaces don’t really marry up perfectly with either of them.
Maybe one day they’ll get it. In the meantime I’m sticking with older bodies.
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What are the FS1, FS2 and FS3 portions of that dial for then? is that not to customise a film sim?Reviews are out and confirming a few facts:
Bummer for serious photographers who like film sims that it won’t do recipes, makes it kind of useless for JPG shooters who want to avoid RAW
- the film sim dial can’t be customized to do something else
- the film sim dial also can’t be used for “recipes”. Film sim only!
- PetapixelTV finds the new Q button placement solves the problems from X-T30.
They can always fix with firmware, but why wouldn’t they have it at launch if they wanted to?
jerclarke
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The dial doesn't come close to having them all, so FS1/3 let you assign the neglected sims onto the dial.What are the FS1, FS2 and FS3 portions of that dial for then? is that not to customise a film sim?Reviews are out and confirming a few facts:
Bummer for serious photographers who like film sims that it won’t do recipes, makes it kind of useless for JPG shooters who want to avoid RAW
- the film sim dial can’t be customized to do something else
- the film sim dial also can’t be used for “recipes”. Film sim only!
- PetapixelTV finds the new Q button placement solves the problems from X-T30.
They can always fix with firmware, but why wouldn’t they have it at launch if they wanted to?
They REALLY should let people assign a CUSTOM SETTINGS C1/7 slot onto those three if they care about their users at all, but so far no hint at it.
jerclarke
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I created another size infographic based on requests elsewhere so I'll put it here too. The previous was X-T5 v. X-T50, this one is X-T30 v. X-T50:
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Ap0ll0n
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I was going to ask you about that, thank you so much!I created another size infographic based on requests elsewhere so I'll put it here too. The previous was X-T5 v. X-T50, this one is X-T30 v. X-T50:
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The other option for Fujifilm would make the X-T5 extremely scarce so the X-T50 is the only real option.
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The different between X-T50 and X100VI only $100.
- Fujifilm X-T50 with XC 15-45mm F3.5-5.6 kit lens cost $1499.
- Fujifilm X100VI with 23mm F2 fixed lens + hybrid OVF + weather sealing + ISO dials cost $1599.
- Fujifilm X-T50 - single UHS-II SD slot
- Fujifilm X100VI - single UHS-I SD slot
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jerclarke
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That one really sucks. Seems like a pointlessly debilitating omission. Yeah people aren't buying that camera for the continuous shooting speed and deep buffer, but why not let them take advantage of the AF system if they want to?
I'd guess 100% yes, it will be extremely similar, or else the X-E5 will be like X-E4, cut down and basic.
I always look at decisions like this and think why... then assume that a bunch of Engineers always have a reason for something, they don't sit in hours of meetings and forget about UHS-ii, so we can only assume it was discussed and the decision was taken to not use it in the X100, and I can't believe it was any other reason but a limitation.
NorCal Jim
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I watched Gordon Laing's X-T50 review this morning and it improved my opinion of the X-T50 from a hard pass on a purchase to a very slim and remote possibility. Overall, the X-T50 is a good camera with some impressive features. The drive button is a (small) compensation for no drive dial but a functional alternative. The bolded items you mentioned strike me as odd in light of Fuji's Film Sim Dial design decision (add easier film sim selection but don't include customization or recipes).Reviews are out and confirming a few facts:
Bummer for serious photographers who like film sims that it won’t do recipes, makes it kind of useless for JPG shooters who want to avoid RAW
- the film sim dial can’t be customized to do something else
- the film sim dial also can’t be used for “recipes”. Film sim only!
- PetapixelTV finds the new Q button placement solves the problems from X-T30.
They can always fix with firmware, but why wouldn’t they have it at launch if they wanted to?
I am happy with my X-T3 but did want to add a smaller and lighter alternative camera. The X-T50 falls a bit shorter than my expectations for a smaller and lighter camera. Maybe the X-E5 will do a better job meeting those expectations.
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