What do you think of the new rumored dedicated Film Sims dial on the X-T50?

However, I use custom settings (recipes) not just a film simulation. If it turns out to be able to store additional jpeg settings then it would make more sense.
Agreed. I’m not hopeful about it. It would be a significant shift from both the old custom settings model (where the film sim is one of a package of image settings, whereas this would require image settings to be attached to the film sim, as with Ricoh’s model) and the new custom settings model (where image settings and shooting settings are all in one bucket). But it’s not impossible.

Realistically I think it will just change film sim and once again Fuji will have completely failed to recognise the value in recipes.
 
It would be great if Fuji add a button to add wide white frame borders to your master piece. May be X-T60
I think we need another marked dial for it - to choose betwen waved, striped, dashed or zig-zag frame ;).

And jokes apart: why they don't just give us customizable unmarked dials? Sony A9iii has two marked (drive+PASM) and 4 unmarked dials I think it's very convenient and versatile solution.

I don't expect X-T50 to have so many dials (but it's about idea), probably even joystick and D-pad is too much for Fuji in this line.

Cheers,

Artur
 
Olympus users have been through this already, when the company put a "Creative Mode" dial in pride of place on the front of the digital Pen-F.

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympus-pen-f/4

As I recall there was a heated debate among MFT users about the wisdom of this move.
 
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As waste of a dial in my opinion, should have been left blank if they didnt want a drive dial anymore.
 
That may be one of the worst mockup renderings of a hypothetical camera I've ever seen.
 
That may be one of the worst mockup renderings of a hypothetical camera I've ever seen.
Indeed, but at least there's no additional sub-dial with artistic/creative filters. Hope it won't be added to the next model ;)

Cheers,

Artur
 
That may be one of the worst mockup renderings of a hypothetical camera I've ever seen.
You're saying the couple of photos over on FujiRumors showing the film sims dial are fakes?
 
We need a dial that makes this selection:

The dial selects the genre:

- Travel: the photographer thinks like Scott Kelby

- Aviation: the photographer thinks like Moose Peterson

- Wildlife: the photographer thinks like Frans Lansing

- Street: the photographer thinks like James Maher

- Landscape: the photographer thinks like Ansel Adams

- two custom genre

Morris
 
That may be one of the worst mockup renderings of a hypothetical camera I've ever seen.
You're saying the couple of photos over on FujiRumors showing the film sims dial are fakes?
I'm saying the image of the "X-T50 front view" is one of the worst mockups I've seen. It's genuinely ugly. Of all the things Fujifilm cameras may be, ugly ain't one of 'em. The front view looks like a failed graphics design project.
Yes. I would agree with that assessment of the beauty. But you called it a mockup. That implies that it's not the real camera that will be released? Are we using a different definition for mockup?
 
That may be one of the worst mockup renderings of a hypothetical camera I've ever seen.
You're saying the couple of photos over on FujiRumors showing the film sims dial are fakes?
I'm saying the image of the "X-T50 front view" is one of the worst mockups I've seen. It's genuinely ugly. Of all the things Fujifilm cameras may be, ugly ain't one of 'em. The front view looks like a failed graphics design project.
Yes. I would agree with that assessment of the beauty. But you called it a mockup. That implies that it's not the real camera that will be released? Are we using a different definition for mockup?
Fujifilm may soon release an X-T50. But that front view ain't it. At least, I hope to goodness it ain't.
 
As an X-T20 user, this seems a significant downgrade on the 'one touch', accessible functionality I currently enjoy, especially if the D pad has also disappeared. As for the price, Fuji is taking the rip here. It clearly no longer wants my custom and is targeting the X-T50 at a new audience.
 
It is nice for people who have no ability to switch it in the normal ways that Fuji has offered on all they other cameras. Including the ways you can assign it to something else.
Could equally be said about the drive dial of course 😉
Yeah... but the drive dial has been there for years by pretty much every camera manufacturer.
And what if they ever add a new film sim through. firmware update? Send you a new button?
Well, they couldn’t add a film sim without a firmware update, and there are three positions on the dial where it could be used (along with the 12 other film sims that don’t have dedicated space on the dial).
I know they can't add one without a firmware update, and if they did and used one of the 3 "spare" positions, then that leaves the user with 1 less than they had.
 
I like it, sort of, and I see exactly why they are doing it. It's not for people in DPR forums who compare raw detail and highlight recoverability. It's for people who like the idea of shooting film, but want an easy digital way to mimic it.

As for raw, you can still shoot raw. If you use a Fuji, you use a film sim. Lightroom will use the profile indicated if you have it set up to do so on import.
 
Deeply horrible change IMO. Huge disadvantage to serious photographers, both because film sims are useless if you shoot RAW,
Many Fuji users shoot JPEG to benefit from the Fuji film simulations, which have a good reputation and are a strong selling point.
Of course. Many Fuji users also "benefit" from CL/CH/Movie modes, which have a "good reputation" as being a basic and necessary part of any camera.

Pointing out that film sims are popular is stating the obvious. The question is which should have an entire labeled metal dial dedicated to it, and which should be up to the user to attach to configurable buttons.
and because having quick, convenient and reliable access to the drive modes is very important if you are shooting action/wildlife.
I doubt it that serious photographers for wildlife and action would use the XTxx series...
This honestly feels like you're trolling us.

Do you really think no one is shooting wildlife with X-T cameras? The X-H and X-S lines didn't even exist when they released the 100-400mm lens, who do you think it was for? Or do you think that lens is for casual shooters?

When I am being sold a $1500 camera with 15 fps RAW and 6.2k video I expect those features to be integrated into the design of the camera.

The X-H2, X-T5, and X-T50 will have essentially the same AF system, there's no reason we shouldn't be able to shoot wildlife with the X-T50 unless it's because Fuji is intentionally nerfing them into "beginner" cameras rather than "enthusiast" ones.

I buy one good camera at a time and use it for everything (portraits, street, wildlife, macro). I want it to have labeled dials, and to be lightweight, so the X-Txx series is the obvious choice.

Fuji should make the X-T50 as much of a power-user camera as they can, and this new dial feels like the opposite of that.
 
Fujifilm may soon release an X-T50. But that front view ain't it. At least, I hope to goodness it ain't.
Are we talking about the same image? I'm afraid you may be sorely mistaken. I don't care for the admin over on FujiRumors, but he rarely gets this stuff wrong. He takes great care to make sure his track record is solid. I'd love for him to be wrong on this. But I doubt it.

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Mike Dawson
 
I want to send a quick message to anyone planning to buy this camera and excited for the film sim dial: Sorry if it seems like some of us are putting you down. I can imagine how spinning the dial and seeing the film sims change would be a pleasant way to enhance the feature, and if you only ever shoot in single-shot mode, I can see how the old drive dial felt like a bit of dead weight. Camera design is hard because as others have said, there are way too many features to have them all on dials, even on the X-T5, there will always be someone who's needs are relegated to configurable buttons.

Honestly though, I don't think that's who we're debating with in this forum.

A message for those who have X-H, X-S, or X-T cameras and to whom the X-Txx cameras are just a curiosity: Please imagine you were going to use the X-T50 as your only camera when having opinions about it. It seems like there's a lot of people here who think it's a fine idea because it will never affect them, rather than because it makes the X-T50 the best camera it can be 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
Fujifilm may soon release an X-T50. But that front view ain't it. At least, I hope to goodness it ain't.
Are we talking about the same image? I'm afraid you may be sorely mistaken. I don't care for the admin over on FujiRumors, but he rarely gets this stuff wrong. He takes great care to make sure his track record is solid. I'd love for him to be wrong on this. But I doubt it.

Fujifilm-X-T50-2-720x515.jpg
Now, I'm all aflutter with anticipation over what this Frankencamera will look like :)

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Bill Ferris Photography
Flagstaff, AZ
 
Customer who wants unmarked dial may already want to use a6700 instead, I think X-T50 is a great fun camera
FWIW I didn't say it should be unmarked, just that that would be better than what they've done with it. It should be marked and it should have the most important control possible, not something useless to a huge percentage (maybe majority) of users who shoot RAW.

Second place after having something good on there is making it configurable so you can ignore the label and spin it as a custom wheel. We'll see if they are smart enough to make it work that way.
And here's the thing. Most people who would care about a JPG dial, would like it to change entire recipes not just the film sims.
 
And here's the thing. Most people who would care about a JPG dial, would like it to change entire recipes not just the film sims.
I'm willing to assume the positions on the dial will do full recipes and still think the dial is a mistake, and that those users would be better off with a custom button that opens the menu with their custom recipes. Specifically, that menu would only include the items they were interested in, so they could have as many or as few as they want, with the labels they find useful. For customizable choices like that, a physical dial just makes no sense.

Same goes for pure film sims. I would much rather make a sub-list of my favorite sims to switch between than cycle through 8 arbitrary marked choices and three unmarked FS1/2/3 choices on a dial.

It's just baffling. Neither the power user choice for RAW shooters (drive dial) or the power user choice for JPG shooters (custom list of configurations). It's the maximize visibility of our most-hyped feature choice 😅
 

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