Replacement for Canon EOS 90D

Finski · May 2, 2024

I have been using the Canon EOS 90D system for photography purposes for right about two years now and it's definitely a solid camera, but it's the right time for me to move on and get a new body and crispier pictures.

After doing some research, I'm looking at getting a Canon or Sony mirrorless (i.e. R7, A7III), yet I haven't reached a conclusion as both of them have their own qualities on which they perform best. I shoot a mix of nature, sports, aviation and generally whatever catches my attention, however for most of these; a good autofocus system is all you need. Yes, that is one of my needs, to be clear I want to amp up the quality of my pictures and even though the 32.5MP sensor on the 90D delivers good photos, i'm often dumbfounded at the results of how the A7III captures minimalistic details (probably due to the high megapixel rate).

I'm willing to spend 1200-1400€ for a new body, new or used is totally fine by me. All I want is to get an upgrade for this summer and get to try some new functions. Any help is appreciated and feel free to ask any questions!

Ringwraith69 · May 3, 2024

Finski said:
I have been using the Canon EOS 90D system for photography purposes for right about two years now and it's definitely a solid camera, but it's the right time for me to move on and get a new body and crispier pictures.

After doing some research, I'm looking at getting a Canon or Sony mirrorless (i.e. R7, A7III), yet I haven't reached a conclusion as both of them have their own qualities on which they perform best. I shoot a mix of nature, sports, aviation and generally whatever catches my attention, however for most of these; a good autofocus system is all you need. Yes, that is one of my needs, to be clear I want to amp up the quality of my pictures and even though the 32.5MP sensor on the 90D delivers good photos, i'm often dumbfounded at the results of how the A7III captures minimalistic details (probably due to the high megapixel rate).
I'm willing to spend 1200-1400€ for a new body, new or used is totally fine by me. All I want is to get an upgrade for this summer and get to try some new functions. Any help is appreciated and feel free to ask any questions!

Just curious, what exactly do you expect to gain IQ-wise from shifting to a Canon R7 or a Sony A7-iii. Both have sensors with the same resolution as your current 90D. The R7 has an APS-C sized sensor, just like the 90D so you don't gain much there. The Sony has a full frame sensor, that could be an advantage over the 90D. It is, however, an older generation camera that was even introduced before the 90D. You might gain something IQ-wise, but it might not be earth shattering.

And your budget of € 1.200 - 1.400 is probably just enough to buy a used R7 or A7iii, maybe with a kit lens added. But have you considered you might have to switch lenses, too? That could set you back a fair bit of € as well. Have you factored in that extra investment?

ZilverHaylide · May 3, 2024

Finski said:
I have been using the Canon EOS 90D system for photography purposes for right about two years now and it's definitely a solid camera, but it's the right time for me to move on and get a new body and crispier pictures.

Chips (or crisps) are crispier. Pictures are crisper!

Humor aside, have you adequately looked into the various things that might account for any dissatisfaction with the performance of your current camera & lenses?

Have you explored settings, including not too little, not too much noise reduction and sharpening?

Are you shooting in RAW?

The 90D is a DSLR, and IIRC, is able to do AF Micro Adjust for optimum AF on lenses; have you done that?

At least when lighting conditions and shutter speeds permit, have you tried your lenses at optimum apertures?

Are you shooting at a fast-enough shutter speed, especially at telephoto focal lengths? (Since you mentioned sports and aviation)

How big do you print? Assuming decent glass, and good technique, you ought to be able to get an excellent 16x24-inch print from a 24-32MP APS-C sensor used in good lighting.

For far less than the cost of a new camera, or even new lenses for your current one, some of the modern noise reduction and sharpening software for post-processing might improve what you can get out of your current kit.

Finski said:
After doing some research, I'm looking at getting a Canon or Sony mirrorless (i.e. R7, A7III), yet I haven't reached a conclusion as both of them have their own qualities on which they perform best. I shoot a mix of nature, sports, aviation and generally whatever catches my attention, however for most of these; a good autofocus system is all you need. Yes, that is one of my needs, to be clear I want to amp up the quality of my pictures and even though the 32.5MP sensor on the 90D delivers good photos, i'm often dumbfounded at the results of how the A7III captures minimalistic details (probably due to the high megapixel rate).
I'm willing to spend 1200-1400€ for a new body, new or used is totally fine by me. All I want is to get an upgrade for this summer and get to try some new functions. Any help is appreciated and feel free to ask any questions!

John Crowe · May 3, 2024

Actual image quality from the R7 will be virtually identical to the 90D.

The A7III will have a significant reduction in resolution. I don't know how you have compared the A7III to the 90D, but the 90D will render more detail.

The 90D is still a top of the class camera and will be tough to beat. If you can justify longer lenses the A7RIV or R5 full frames could improve image quality.

Optimist_Eyes · May 6, 2024

I would look at the lenses you are using now and see if there is a problem. If you are not getting good IQ out of the 90d then there might be something wrong.

You also might consider renting the camera body you intend to buy before fully investing. And/or rent another lens for you 90d.

MarshallG · May 7, 2024

ZilverHaylide said:
Finski said:

I have been using the Canon EOS 90D system for photography purposes for right about two years now and it's definitely a solid camera, but it's the right time for me to move on and get a new body and crispier pictures.

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Chips (or crisps) are crispier. Pictures are crisper!

Humor aside, have you adequately looked into the various things that might account for any dissatisfaction with the performance of your current camera & lenses?

Have you explored settings, including not too little, not too much noise reduction and sharpening?

Are you shooting in RAW?

The 90D is a DSLR, and IIRC, is able to do AF Micro Adjust for optimum AF on lenses; have you done that?

At least when lighting conditions and shutter speeds permit, have you tried your lenses at optimum apertures?

Are you shooting at a fast-enough shutter speed, especially at telephoto focal lengths? (Since you mentioned sports and aviation)

How big do you print? Assuming decent glass, and good technique, you ought to be able to get an excellent 16x24-inch print from a 24-32MP APS-C sensor used in good lighting.

For far less than the cost of a new camera, or even new lenses for your current one, some of the modern noise reduction and sharpening software for post-processing might improve what you can get out of your current kit.

ZilverHaylide said:

After doing some research, I'm looking at getting a Canon or Sony mirrorless (i.e. R7, A7III), yet I haven't reached a conclusion as both of them have their own qualities on which they perform best. I shoot a mix of nature, sports, aviation and generally whatever catches my attention, however for most of these; a good autofocus system is all you need. Yes, that is one of my needs, to be clear I want to amp up the quality of my pictures and even though the 32.5MP sensor on the 90D delivers good photos, i'm often dumbfounded at the results of how the A7III captures minimalistic details (probably due to the high megapixel rate).
I'm willing to spend 1200-1400€ for a new body, new or used is totally fine by me. All I want is to get an upgrade for this summer and get to try some new functions. Any help is appreciated and feel free to ask any questions!

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Yes, I think the important thing here is to understand what’s lacking in the photos he’s getting with the 90D. The mirrorless cams do get sharper focus on faces more consistently. That much is true. But I think it’s best to know how the camera or lens are failing to deliver the results, if they are indeed the problem. You’d hate to buy a new camera and have the problems follow you.

MarshallG · May 7, 2024

We could help you most if you post some photos and describe how you think your equipment is failing you, and what you’re expecting. Maybe it’s the camera, maybe the lens, maybe the technique, maybe the editing.

Before you buy, it’s best to get a solid grip on what you want to solve, and we can help you with that.

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