Tamron 17-70 vs XF 16-55

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First of all we know, for the most part, the 16-55 is highly revered on here (myself included) however recent events thrust the Tamron 17-70 into the spotlight. I was (and still am) mightily impressed at how the Tamron 11-20 performs and so I was curious to know if this extended to the 17-70. I was further spurred on by Dustin Abbott's video regarding his experience with the 16-55 on the newer 40mp sensor. I was somewhat surprised by his conclusions so I decided to finally check it out for myself.

So, is the Tamron better than the 16-55 (even on the newer sensor)?
No, it isn't.

I took delivery of the Tamron during the week and got straight to work on testing alongside the 16-55.
The long and short of it is the Tamron is a VERY good lens and I was pleased with what it produces both in terms of sharpness and overall rendering. It does seem to produce slightly better bokeh in certain scenarios e.g. the usual busy backgrounds with foliage etc where Fuji lenses to have a slight tendency to fall down.

However, when it comes to absolute critical detail and micro contrast the Fuji lens just edges in front of the Tamron and on really close inspection the latter just doesn't stand up to the Fuji.

In my opinion, I see no reason for anyone who already owns the Fuji lens to swap it out for the Tamron - I know I certainly won't.
If you have neither and wondering which one to buy, I honestly think you'd be happy with either. In isolation the Tamron is an excellent lens. However, it offers only three things over the Fuji which are size, weight and price. I find the output from the 16-55 @ 55mm is pretty much on par with the Tamron @ 70mm so I have no issues with doing a little extra cropping.
Subjectively, I do prefer the zoom/focus ring placement on the Tamron. Its zoom ring is nice and broad and for manual focus I do like the manual focus ring closer to the body - this might not be for everyone of course.

The Tamron of course lacks the aperture ring however this is a feature I would relinquish for better performance - as demonstrated by the 11-20. However, in this instance the 17-70 offered nothing to overcome that lack of aperture ring.

So to summarise (my findings), the Tamron is an excellent lens and I don't think anyone would be disappointed with it, but it's just not quite as good as the Fuji.
 
So to summarise (my findings), the Tamron is an excellent lens and I don't think anyone would be disappointed with it, but it's just not quite as good as the Fuji.
Read this test


where the conclusion goes in the other direction, with samples

Bob
 
In my experience with the lens on my X-T3, and from past experience with two 16-55's, I would agree that the overall IQ win goes to the Fuji. However, in my opinion the versatility win goes to the Tamron. I would add three more advantages of the lens over the 16-55:

1. Image Stabilization: Tamron's Vibration Compensation allowed me to get sharp images at slow shutter speeds in low light on my X-T3, and of course works in video. On Fuji's non-IBIS bodies this is unquestionably an advantage to the lens.

2. Close-focus capabilities: the Tamron has better close focus at both ends of its range. In my experience optimal sharpness was at apertures of f4-8.

3. Reach: while not as wide as the 16-55, the extra reach of the 70mm makes the lens a bit more versatile for composition.

The good news is that there are two excellent 2.8 standard zooms for prospective buyers to choose from, depending on what they prioritize most.
 
In my experience with the lens on my X-T3, and from past experience with two 16-55's, I would agree that the overall IQ win goes to the Fuji. However, in my opinion the versatility win goes to the Tamron. I would add three more advantages of the lens over the 16-55:

1. Image Stabilization: Tamron's Vibration Compensation allowed me to get sharp images at slow shutter speeds in low light on my X-T3, and of course works in video. On Fuji's non-IBIS bodies this is unquestionably an advantage to the lens.
Agreed. I had tunnel vision due to my owning two IBIS bodies plus I found the Fuji lens played ball much better despite it having no OIS of its own.
2. Close-focus capabilities: the Tamron has better close focus at both ends of its range. In my experience optimal sharpness was at apertures of f4-8.
This is true, however the only issue I had with this was that the Tamron was never that sharp at minimum focus distance so I could still yield sharper results (or certainly as sharp) by cropping the Fuji.
3. Reach: while not as wide as the 16-55, the extra reach of the 70mm makes the lens a bit more versatile for composition.
Again, I’ve found I can get similar results by just cropping the Fuji from 55mm. This is made even easier when using the X-T5.
The good news is that there are two excellent 2.8 standard zooms for prospective buyers to choose from, depending on what they prioritize most.
Quite right. As I said, if you had neither lens (or the 16-80 for that matter) the Tamron is a very interesting proposition. It was initially a very difficult proposition here in the UK due to its ridiculous price (£829). Fortunately it has since settled at £679 and is often on sale which makes it all the more tempting.
I still see no reason why anyone would swap the 16-55 for it though - unless of course they really wanted the weight savings, needed the IS or they had a particularly weak copy of the 16-55.
It does help my decision somewhat that I believe my copy is excellent and it matches or beats any of the f2 primes.
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So to summarise (my findings), the Tamron is an excellent lens and I don't think anyone would be disappointed with it, but it's just not quite as good as the Fuji.
Read this test

https://les-guides-fujifilm.com/tes...on est supérieur au,à 16mm à pleine ouverture.

where the conclusion goes in the other direction, with samples

Bob
Interesting. I could only read it via the auto translate on Safari but hopefully most of the information came across. I can’t look at the samples as I’m not at the computer. I could also upload my own but didn’t want to bog the thread down - I could upload the JPGs to my galleries later.
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First of all we know, for the most part, the 16-55 is highly revered on here (myself included) however recent events thrust the Tamron 17-70 into the spotlight. I was (and still am) mightily impressed at how the Tamron 11-20 performs and so I was curious to know if this extended to the 17-70. I was further spurred on by Dustin Abbott's video regarding his experience with the 16-55 on the newer 40mp sensor. I was somewhat surprised by his conclusions so I decided to finally check it out for myself.

So, is the Tamron better than the 16-55 (even on the newer sensor)?
No, it isn't.

I took delivery of the Tamron during the week and got straight to work on testing alongside the 16-55.
The long and short of it is the Tamron is a VERY good lens and I was pleased with what it produces both in terms of sharpness and overall rendering. It does seem to produce slightly better bokeh in certain scenarios e.g. the usual busy backgrounds with foliage etc where Fuji lenses to have a slight tendency to fall down.

However, when it comes to absolute critical detail and micro contrast the Fuji lens just edges in front of the Tamron and on really close inspection the latter just doesn't stand up to the Fuji.

In my opinion, I see no reason for anyone who already owns the Fuji lens to swap it out for the Tamron - I know I certainly won't.
If you have neither and wondering which one to buy, I honestly think you'd be happy with either. In isolation the Tamron is an excellent lens. However, it offers only three things over the Fuji which are size, weight and price. I find the output from the 16-55 @ 55mm is pretty much on par with the Tamron @ 70mm so I have no issues with doing a little extra cropping.
Subjectively, I do prefer the zoom/focus ring placement on the Tamron. Its zoom ring is nice and broad and for manual focus I do like the manual focus ring closer to the body - this might not be for everyone of course.

The Tamron of course lacks the aperture ring however this is a feature I would relinquish for better performance - as demonstrated by the 11-20. However, in this instance the 17-70 offered nothing to overcome that lack of aperture ring.

So to summarise (my findings), the Tamron is an excellent lens and I don't think anyone would be disappointed with it, but it's just not quite as good as the Fuji.
Can You put full resolution files in A/B comparsion, to backup Your opinion in some way? :)
 
First of all we know, for the most part, the 16-55 is highly revered on here (myself included) however recent events thrust the Tamron 17-70 into the spotlight. I was (and still am) mightily impressed at how the Tamron 11-20 performs and so I was curious to know if this extended to the 17-70. I was further spurred on by Dustin Abbott's video regarding his experience with the 16-55 on the newer 40mp sensor. I was somewhat surprised by his conclusions so I decided to finally check it out for myself.

So, is the Tamron better than the 16-55 (even on the newer sensor)?
No, it isn't.

I took delivery of the Tamron during the week and got straight to work on testing alongside the 16-55.
The long and short of it is the Tamron is a VERY good lens and I was pleased with what it produces both in terms of sharpness and overall rendering. It does seem to produce slightly better bokeh in certain scenarios e.g. the usual busy backgrounds with foliage etc where Fuji lenses to have a slight tendency to fall down.

However, when it comes to absolute critical detail and micro contrast the Fuji lens just edges in front of the Tamron and on really close inspection the latter just doesn't stand up to the Fuji.

In my opinion, I see no reason for anyone who already owns the Fuji lens to swap it out for the Tamron - I know I certainly won't.
If you have neither and wondering which one to buy, I honestly think you'd be happy with either. In isolation the Tamron is an excellent lens. However, it offers only three things over the Fuji which are size, weight and price. I find the output from the 16-55 @ 55mm is pretty much on par with the Tamron @ 70mm so I have no issues with doing a little extra cropping.
Subjectively, I do prefer the zoom/focus ring placement on the Tamron. Its zoom ring is nice and broad and for manual focus I do like the manual focus ring closer to the body - this might not be for everyone of course.

The Tamron of course lacks the aperture ring however this is a feature I would relinquish for better performance - as demonstrated by the 11-20. However, in this instance the 17-70 offered nothing to overcome that lack of aperture ring.

So to summarise (my findings), the Tamron is an excellent lens and I don't think anyone would be disappointed with it, but it's just not quite as good as the Fuji.
Can You put full resolution files in A/B comparsion, to backup Your opinion in some way? :)
 
Can You put full resolution files in A/B comparsion, to backup Your opinion in some way? :)
I certainly can. I’m not at my computer right now but I should be able to upload later this evening hopefully.
Excellent! Thank You :)
So, I'm waiting for Your test files then.
 
No aperture ring is enough for me not to consider this lens.
 
Apologies about french translation With Chrome you get a very good translation module (Win10+)
 
In my experience with the lens on my X-T3, and from past experience with two 16-55's, I would agree that the overall IQ win goes to the Fuji. However, in my opinion the versatility win goes to the Tamron. I would add three more advantages of the lens over the 16-55:

1. Image Stabilization: Tamron's Vibration Compensation allowed me to get sharp images at slow shutter speeds in low light on my X-T3, and of course works in video. On Fuji's non-IBIS bodies this is unquestionably an advantage to the lens.
Agreed. I had tunnel vision due to my owning two IBIS bodies plus I found the Fuji lens played ball much better despite it having no OIS of its own.
I think this is a valid criticism about Tamron VC lenses on Fuji IBIS bodies; there are a couple of statements from Tamron that the two systems do work together (see below), but anecdotal evidence from users may tell a different story about how well they work together, including my own video when I first received it and used it on the X-S10. When I had the 18-300mm on my X-T3, VC was ok for stills but terrible in video. Since then other users have reported better performance after a fw update.

I have seen at one time (either here on DPR or somewhere else) a thread where a forum member had contacted Tamron support about the lens VC, and the support rep did state that the two systems do work together, but I can't find that thread now. I know that on the X-T3 the lens VC performed well and within expectations, but I wouldn't be surprised if it has some issues on an IBIS body.

In Tamron's press release for the Fujifilm version the following is stated in the VC section (bold added):

"The 17-70mm F2.8 features TAMRON's proprietary VC mechanism. Additional sophisticated algorithms optimized for this model and a dedicated, independently operating MPU (Micro Processor Unit) all combine to superbly compensate for vibration. This feature is available when the lens is used with cameras with or without in-body image stabilization. When shooting video, by leveraging AI technology, image stabilization performs automatically to best compensate for different shooting situations."

In contrast, when I had the X-H1 and a 16-55, the IBIS performed very well the lens, similar to your experience.
 
I have uploaded a few sample images to my gallery:

https://www.dpreview.com/galleries/8918147115/albums/tamron-17-70-vs-xf-16-55

While my testing was quite thorough I could only upload a selection - this batch alone pretty much maxed out my monthly allowance. So I chose to upload comparative shots taken at 16/17mm, 23mm, 35mm and 55mm at f2.8 and f5.6.

All the f2.8 images look to be in favour of the Fuji lens (to my eye). From f5.6 and beyond it's nip and tuck however centre sharpness always seems to be marginally better on the 16-55.
 
So to summarise (my findings), the Tamron is an excellent lens and I don't think anyone would be disappointed with it, but it's just not quite as good as the Fuji.
Read this test

https://les-guides-fujifilm.com/tes...on est supérieur au,à 16mm à pleine ouverture.

where the conclusion goes in the other direction, with samples

Bob
It's interesting that the above tests found the Tamron's AF to be a little slow.. on my X-H1, the tracking works better with this lens than with any of my Fuji native ones. It's, like, almost usable with the Tamron :-O
 
I have uploaded a few sample images to my gallery:

https://www.dpreview.com/galleries/8918147115/albums/tamron-17-70-vs-xf-16-55

While my testing was quite thorough I could only upload a selection - this batch alone pretty much maxed out my monthly allowance. So I chose to upload comparative shots taken at 16/17mm, 23mm, 35mm and 55mm at f2.8 and f5.6.

All the f2.8 images look to be in favour of the Fuji lens (to my eye). From f5.6 and beyond it's nip and tuck however centre sharpness always seems to be marginally better on the 16-55.
Thank you very much, for posting test images, but..
.. these are 1.7 Mpix files (1600px on a long end)
In such low resolution there is no way to spot any difference in resolution between both lenses.

Can You please provide full resolution files from Your X-T5 (?)
Two files should be enough: 16mm@f/5.6 for Fuji and 17mm@f/5.6 for Tamron :)
 
I have uploaded a few sample images to my gallery:

https://www.dpreview.com/galleries/8918147115/albums/tamron-17-70-vs-xf-16-55

While my testing was quite thorough I could only upload a selection - this batch alone pretty much maxed out my monthly allowance. So I chose to upload comparative shots taken at 16/17mm, 23mm, 35mm and 55mm at f2.8 and f5.6.

All the f2.8 images look to be in favour of the Fuji lens (to my eye). From f5.6 and beyond it's nip and tuck however centre sharpness always seems to be marginally better on the 16-55.
Thank you very much, for posting test images, but..
.. these are 1.7 Mpix files (1600px on a long end)
In such low resolution there is no way to spot any difference in resolution between both lenses.

Can You please provide full resolution files from Your X-T5 (?)
Two files should be enough: 16mm@f/5.6 for Fuji and 17mm@f/5.6 for Tamron :)
Yes apologies about that. It was the only way I could upload the images to the gallery as they were too big otherwise.

Anyhow, as requested :-D :

Tamron 17-70
Tamron 17-70

XF 16-55
XF 16-55

At f5.6 there isn't a great deal between them but I think the Fuji still exhibits better sharpness right to the edges - not by much but sharper nonetheless. It should be noted that at f2.8 the difference is definitely more prevalent.
 
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I have uploaded a few sample images to my gallery:

https://www.dpreview.com/galleries/8918147115/albums/tamron-17-70-vs-xf-16-55

While my testing was quite thorough I could only upload a selection - this batch alone pretty much maxed out my monthly allowance. So I chose to upload comparative shots taken at 16/17mm, 23mm, 35mm and 55mm at f2.8 and f5.6.

All the f2.8 images look to be in favour of the Fuji lens (to my eye). From f5.6 and beyond it's nip and tuck however centre sharpness always seems to be marginally better on the 16-55.
Thank you very much, for posting test images, but..
.. these are 1.7 Mpix files (1600px on a long end)
In such low resolution there is no way to spot any difference in resolution between both lenses.

Can You please provide full resolution files from Your X-T5 (?)
Two files should be enough: 16mm@f/5.6 for Fuji and 17mm@f/5.6 for Tamron :)
Yes apologies about that. It was the only way I could upload the images to the gallery as they were too big otherwise.

Anyhow, as requested :-D :

Tamron 17-70
Tamron 17-70

XF 16-55
XF 16-55

At f5.6 there isn't a great deal between them but I think the Fuji still exhibits better sharpness right to the edges - not by much but sharper nonetheless. It should be noted that at f2.8 the difference is definitely more prevalent.
Thank You for sharing full resolution files :)
I had some hopes for Tamron 17-70/2.8, but after evaluating Your test files I'm not so sure anymore.
I mean.. I would not been happy with results from Your copy of Tamron 17-70/2.8 (at least not in wide end)

I wish some manufacturer would create an equivalent of Tamron 20-40/2.8 for Fuji X mount (13-27/2.0)
For me, Tamron 20-40/2.8 is ideal, perfect everyday/travel zoom lens.
Its ultra light, VERY small, relatively cheap, with WR, has excellent IQ across the frame and focal range I need.
Seriously, if not crappy colors from sony Sensor, I would switch to this system just for having access to Tamron 20-40/2.8
A7IV + Tamron 20-40/2.8 + Samyang 50/1.4 II + Tamron 70-180/2.8 VC and I've all I need for my photography.
From everyday/travel, through portraits, concerts events and landscapes.
But this damn Sony crappy skin tones.
Dream on, dream on.. ;-)

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More thanks for posting your thoughts and sample images of your copy of the Tamron 17-70 vs. XF 16-55.

I bought the Sigma 18-50/2.8 as a small standard travel zoom, whereas the 16-55 was just too big and heavy.

The Sigma worked so well enough for me that I started wondering if the Tamron 17-70, with its extra reach, could also serve as a 16-55/2.8 replacement in situations where I wanted a bit more reach. I really loved the focal range of my old 24-105/4 on my Canon 5DM3 back in the day and thought the 17-70 would be a great option as a travel zoom, whereas the EF 16-80/4 was not.

From your review comments and test images, I have to agree that the size/weight of the Tamron does not justify the image quality loss compared to the 16-55. Add that one youtube review where the reviewer's Tamron 17-55 died due to light rain, and I decide not to pull the trigger on the 17-70.

I still like my Tamron 11-20/2.8 as a replacement to my old EF 10-24/4 and was hoping for more out of the 17-70.
 
I have uploaded a few sample images to my gallery:

https://www.dpreview.com/galleries/8918147115/albums/tamron-17-70-vs-xf-16-55

While my testing was quite thorough I could only upload a selection - this batch alone pretty much maxed out my monthly allowance. So I chose to upload comparative shots taken at 16/17mm, 23mm, 35mm and 55mm at f2.8 and f5.6.

All the f2.8 images look to be in favour of the Fuji lens (to my eye). From f5.6 and beyond it's nip and tuck however centre sharpness always seems to be marginally better on the 16-55.
I would expect the red badge XF Fuji zoom to be optically superior to the plastic $799 Tamron, so no surprise there.

The only issue I've had with my Tamron 17-70 f2.8 is that it developed a hitch in its getalong, as in a tight spot towards the long end of its zoom travel. So I sent it in to Tamron through the camera store where I bought it. They called back a week later with a laundry list of stuff broken inside the lens, there was serious intimation that I might have thrown it down a flight of stairs. They wanted $600 to fix it. You know, for a lens that I paid $699 on sale, five months ago. (I sent it in back in March).

I did not. That lens has seen nothing like the action my hapless 16-80mm f4 has-I clipped a bollard with my bike's left pedal at 15mph, which promptly caused me and camera to hit the ground. The f4 lens laughed it off. Earlier, I was standing at the bar after a shoot and my camera strap clip just gave up on life, causing the whole rig to hit concrete from 4' up. Broke the flash, but X-H1 and f4 zoom came up shootin' as usual.

The Tamron is plastic, so I'm much more gentle with it. I wouldn't say I baby it, but geez.. seems awful busted up inside for a lens that I got last October! Oddly, the store said I would have to have them button it up, return it to the store, then I'd have to box it up and send it to Tamron myself, through their warranty channel, to see if they'd take better care of it for me? Seems pretty inefficient since the lens is already at Tamron's facility. Maybe the store gets a cut of the repairs.. but anyway..

The first takeaway here is never buy a used camera from me :-D And the second one is that you get what you pay for, and if you get a Tamron 17-70 f2.8 zoom, maybe take super gentle good care of it.

I'd like to reiterate that my copy does have excellent optics-it is sharp, not decentered, and oddly the autofocus as in tracking/face detection seems to work better than my Fuji lenses! Go figure..
 
Because judging form lab test, Tamron is very sharp corner to corner in every focal lenght:


Perhaps OP has bad copy? Just check out test shots from sample gallery on lenstip.com

It's plastic, and no near build quality of XF 16-55/2.8, but optically it should be slightly superior.
 
Because judging form lab test, Tamron is very sharp corner to corner in every focal lenght:

https://www.lenstip.com/625.4-Lens_...m_f_2.8_Di_III-A_VC_RXD_Image_resolution.html

Perhaps OP has bad copy? Just check out test shots from sample gallery on lenstip.com
Of course, we can't rule out a bad copy - but all I can do is report on my experience.
It's plastic, and no near build quality of XF 16-55/2.8, but optically it should be slightly superior.
 
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