I want Nikon to give me a camera with global shutter (now).

I want Nikon to give me a camera with global shutter (now).


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Definitely, they would need to make difficult decisions how to distinguish Z8 from such Z6 III and do not anger Z6 III buyers too much. I wanted to get a feedback what others think about such possibility. I understand your responses in a way that you think it's quite unlikely that it will happen. Am I right?
Given how well the Z8 is selling, I can't see Nikon doing anything that would reduce sales of that camera by introducing the "same thing" for US$1500-2000 less. Nor should they.

Moreover, the Zf now brackets what they can do with a Z6/Z7 update, because it's essentially what everyone was expecting in a Z6 III, but with a different body style.

Thus, a Z6 III has to sit in the space in between. The Sony A7 Mark IV competition already sits in that space (e.g. 33mp).
 
The problem here is most people think every sport requires high shutter speeds and high iso at all times. the biggest drawback of this global shutter is the low base iso setting of 250iso many motor sport shooters will use a very low iso setting and very slow shutter speeds to get wheels and backgrounds blurred, Nikon did this for motorsport photographers.

"While a minimum ISO of 200 isn’t an issue if you’re shooting at smaller apertures or in lower light, it’s a real issue if you’re trying to shoot at wide apertures in bright light, or to use slower shutter speeds to achieve motion blur. Of course, you can always use an ND filter in such situations, but they’re a nuisance, especially if you’re using multiple lenses, and want to switch back and forth between tack-sharp and creatively blurred shots.

This is one area where Nikon’s dedicated sensor design has paid off for them: The D850 has the first true ISO 64 capability in an SLR. (Other cameras have special “Lo” ISO settings that will get there, but those come at the expense of poor tonal qualities and blown highlights.) Sanbongi-san told me that they developed the D850’s true ISO 64 capability in response to requests from motor-sports shooters, who wanted to shoot at large apertures and slow shutter speeds, so they could pan to follow the race cars while dramatically motion-blurring the background.

I don’t know enough about sensor design to understand the details of what’s involved, but when I asked Sanbongi-san what his team’s proudest achievements were, he mentioned the D850’s true ISO 64 first."

This was a quote from a article you car read here. https://www.imaging-resource.com/ne...-inside-nikons-super-secret-sensor-design-lab

Whilst undoubtably a very fine achievement with 120 raw shots at 24mp, there are drawbacks and being first allows other manufacturers to draw on that design specification and make improvements for their own products. Personally I will stick with a D850 and the 64 iso to get blurred shots at 9fps.
Are you telling me that the D810 didn’t have a true base ISO 64? That’s news to me.
I have no idea, but that is a quote from a Nikon sensor designer.
Well, I think they’re wrong. The base ISO of the D810 was 64. Unless Nikon lied in their marketing and printed specs.
 
Tell me, what can you not do because of the lack of a global shutter? I asked this question myself, and the answer is: 'nothing.' Of course, this is a big technical breakthrough, but in practical terms, it isn't going to change much for 99% of the people
There are uses for a global shutter. I feel no need to tell you what they are. If the scenarios where a global shutter is useful don't apply to your shooting then don't buy a camera with a global shutter. Really quite simple.

I dare say that shooting 120 fps doesn't change much for 99% of the people either. But there you are. What couldn't people due because of the lack of retro dials? Sometimes it's not about what you can do, it's how you do it.
Nikon Ambassador Reed Hoffman has talked about his workflow. He's shooting baseball and trying to capture the batter with the ball coming off the bat every timed over the entire game. With Pre-Release Capture he waits until he hears the ball hit the bat and then presses the shutter. He goes through the images when there are breaks in the action and flags the 1 or 2 images that he is looking for. Those images are transmitted during the game. When he gets home, he only keeps the flagged images - the rest are discarded. S it is one or two images per stack - all are flagged on site - and the rest are discarded. All his images are JPEG's - that's what is required and he can get it right in the camera. For use there is a crop and possibly a slight adjustment to exposure, but he's doing this enough that he can have publication ready images in the camera.

For other situations, you could have Lightroom automatically stack images taken within a specific time frame. For post processing, you open the stack, pick the image, and discard the rest. If the flagged image was identified in the camera and carried through to LR, it's very quick. Otherwise you are just looking for a single image that is perfectly timed which is quick.

I've found wildlife is a little different. I've used Pre-release for hummingbirds. I tested at 60 fps. My ideal shot was just a frame or two, but following a bird at a flower you could end up with a lot of very good shots. But discards are very quickly identified by head position, wing position, foreground and background. I'm discarding 95% of the images but occasionally have 2-3 frames from the same series that are excellent. You learn pretty quickly how to decide what you want.

If you don't know the exact timing you need, don't shoot at high frame rates.
 
Is Sony giving up on the ~$4,000 to $4,500 FF camera market? What's to face the Z8?
They can continue selling the a9ii as it is. Maybe mark it down slowly and gradually.
The A9II IMO is obsoleted by the Z8: there is not a single spec by which the latter outperforms the former. And it costs more. It will take a lot of discounting,
 
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I just want a bunch, I mean a bunch, of people that don't really need the tech, except for bragging rights, to sell their current gear and buy this camera.

That way I can get a Z8 much cheaper.
I would not care whether they sell their camera for bragging rights or will use the tech, or whatever, as long as the competition is working for me,
 
Is Sony giving up on the ~$4,000 to $4,500 FF camera market? What's to face the Z8?
These cameras were likely in development for extended periods of course but I spose you could argue the R5 has been out for awhile and the Z8 was somewhat predictable.

Maybe Sony think its better to not go after a market thats already quite crowded with Canon and Nikon already involved? instead target a smaller ultra fast action camera market?

I would say though that whilst the announcement has made waves I'm wondering how big that market will actually be.
Its a fair question. This almost seems like a halo product rather than a practical one.

I have visions of these sports photographers spraying and praying 120fps getting that perfect shot where the ball leaves the bat and then culling through 10,000 images in the press room. They may be wishing for 15fps and iso 100 before too long.
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