I bought a Nikon Zf for wildlife photography

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Being a wildlife (and landscape) photographer, for quite some time I was very jealous on a friend of mine who owns a Sony A1. The unbelievable accurate eye-detect on birds and other animals was something that I really envied, because my Z6 did not come close to that. I was already happy if once in while it would detect the eye of a deer.

Anyway, the Z9 arrived, too expensive and too bulky but promising in the AF department. Then the Z8, still quite heavy and still too expensive for me. The Z6 is nice and small, and if I put bigger glass on it then I add the SmallRig L-plate, makes the grip bigger and the whole thing more balanced. And my ‘bigger’ glass is my trusty lightweight 300mm f/4 PF VR with a TC17 and the FTZII, giving me 500mm f/6.7 with a weight of 1185 grams.

Nice and lightweight, but the AF speed on the Z6 was very slow, certainly compared to my old D500. But I had made the switch to mirrorless and sold all my DSLR’s a few years ago in order to finance the switch. I really like the Z6, the ergonomics, the wonderful image quality, also in very low light and to me it seems that 24 Mpx is a sort of goldielocks for an image sensor. I never print bigger than A3+, and I create 4k slideshows for my 4k TV.

Then the Zf was announced, I like the retro look but what really caught my attention was the AF system from the Z8 and Z9 using Expeed 7. Would it be good for wildlife? Ok, burst speed would be slower but 8 to 10 fps would be fine for me.

Anyway, a few days ago I decided to purchase it, already having studied the Reference Manual knowing I could configure quite a few knobs.

The result is that now I have a mini Z8 at almost half the price! Bird-eye detect is incredibly fast, also far away and with small birds. When holding down the Fn button it instantly switches to 3D tracking which works amazingly well. The AF acquisition and tracking speed with my lightweight 500mm combi is superb, much, much faster than on the Z6 and also much faster than on my old D500.

I like the fysical dials, also the fact that the monitor can be set facing inwards, I shoot mostly using the EVF. Startup time after sleep is almost instant, battery life much better than on my Z6 and with the Smallrig grip it feels very comfortable in my (medium size) hands, total weight of body and grip being 820 grams.

So I am very, very happy with the Zf for wildlife and I thought I should share these experiences with you in case you are in a similar situation.

cheers, Frank
 
Nice, you have a great (Sony) gallery, looking forward to seeing some ZF photos in this thread. ;)

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Dont you miss the back button af-on?
 
Dont you miss the back button af-on?
No, I almost never use that, also because I shoot a lot of waterbirds from waistlevel, so then it's hard to use both release and back buttons.. :-)
 
Being a wildlife (and landscape) photographer, for quite some time I was very jealous on a friend of mine who owns a Sony A1. The unbelievable accurate eye-detect on birds and other animals was something that I really envied, because my Z6 did not come close to that. I was already happy if once in while it would detect the eye of a deer.

Anyway, the Z9 arrived, too expensive and too bulky but promising in the AF department. Then the Z8, still quite heavy and still too expensive for me. The Z6 is nice and small, and if I put bigger glass on it then I add the SmallRig L-plate, makes the grip bigger and the whole thing more balanced. And my ‘bigger’ glass is my trusty lightweight 300mm f/4 PF VR with a TC17 and the FTZII, giving me 500mm f/6.7 with a weight of 1185 grams.

Nice and lightweight, but the AF speed on the Z6 was very slow, certainly compared to my old D500. But I had made the switch to mirrorless and sold all my DSLR’s a few years ago in order to finance the switch. I really like the Z6, the ergonomics, the wonderful image quality, also in very low light and to me it seems that 24 Mpx is a sort of goldielocks for an image sensor. I never print bigger than A3+, and I create 4k slideshows for my 4k TV.

Then the Zf was announced, I like the retro look but what really caught my attention was the AF system from the Z8 and Z9 using Expeed 7. Would it be good for wildlife? Ok, burst speed would be slower but 8 to 10 fps would be fine for me.

Anyway, a few days ago I decided to purchase it, already having studied the Reference Manual knowing I could configure quite a few knobs.

The result is that now I have a mini Z8 at almost half the price! Bird-eye detect is incredibly fast, also far away and with small birds. When holding down the Fn button it instantly switches to 3D tracking which works amazingly well. The AF acquisition and tracking speed with my lightweight 500mm combi is superb, much, much faster than on the Z6 and also much faster than on my old D500.
I am close to doing the same thing
I like the fysical dials, also the fact that the monitor can be set facing inwards, I shoot mostly using the EVF. Startup time after sleep is almost instant, battery life much better than on my Z6 and with the Smallrig grip it feels very comfortable in my (medium size) hands, total weight of body and grip being 820 grams.

So I am very, very happy with the Zf for wildlife and I thought I should share these experiences with you in case you are in a similar situation.

cheers, Frank
But I am holding for the hope for a Z500 or a Z90....(DX Z8) or a refurb Z8...

Currently my Z9 and Z50 is working for me right now. I would really like to see a 24Mpx DX body with the Stack sensor an IBIS and Sensor Guard at 15 FPS? at about $2499.
 
Nice, you have a great (Sony) gallery, looking forward to seeing some ZF photos in this thread. ;)
i bought the SOny RX10iv two years ago, also much out of frustration with the lack of AF speed on my Z6. It's a wonderful camera, but restricted of course because of the 1" sensor.

In general most of my Nikon photo's give me a 'wow' experience, the Sony pix never do that but often I am still very impressed of course. It's a photographic Swiss army knife, but you won't build a house with a Swiss army knife... :-)

The biggest problem I have with the Sony is the physical reliability, at this moment for instance it's zoom motor is broken, making the camera totally useless so it needs to be repaired. :-(

Today I took out my Zf in lousy weather, rain showers, dark grey weather, but it did perform very well. Some example shots:



Great Tit, quite a crop, it focused immediately on its eye...
Great Tit, quite a crop, it focused immediately on its eye...



Cormorant I had been tracking over the water, flying in front of woodland background. Wrong exposure settings of course, shutter speed too low, but.....the AF was still on the bird! This is the whole unprocessed shot.
Cormorant I had been tracking over the water, flying in front of woodland background. Wrong exposure settings of course, shutter speed too low, but.....the AF was still on the bird! This is the whole unprocessed shot.



And this is the cropped and processed shot, I was really surprised!
And this is the cropped and processed shot, I was really surprised!



Fallow Deer running, the 3D tracking stayed on it's eye...
Fallow Deer running, the 3D tracking stayed on it's eye...



Fallow Deer between the branches, the AF locked immediately on its right eye..
Fallow Deer between the branches, the AF locked immediately on its right eye..



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Dont you miss the back button af-on?
I am using my Z f with back-button AF — AF-C with 3D tracking, to be exact.

Also, I don’t miss the AF-point joystick and I turn the touch-disabled LCD inward.
I tried that, but I am a left eye shooter and the AE-L button sits too close to the EVF so I stick my thumb in my right eye :-D
 
But you have the Z9...

I have been hoping for years, also firmware updates for the Z6II, but I did not want to wait any longer and my budget was limited!
 
Being a wildlife (and landscape) photographer, for quite some time I was very jealous on a friend of mine who owns a Sony A1. The unbelievable accurate eye-detect on birds and other animals was something that I really envied, because my Z6 did not come close to that. I was already happy if once in while it would detect the eye of a deer.

Anyway, the Z9 arrived, too expensive and too bulky but promising in the AF department. Then the Z8, still quite heavy and still too expensive for me. The Z6 is nice and small, and if I put bigger glass on it then I add the SmallRig L-plate, makes the grip bigger and the whole thing more balanced. And my ‘bigger’ glass is my trusty lightweight 300mm f/4 PF VR with a TC17 and the FTZII, giving me 500mm f/6.7 with a weight of 1185 grams.

Nice and lightweight, but the AF speed on the Z6 was very slow, certainly compared to my old D500. But I had made the switch to mirrorless and sold all my DSLR’s a few years ago in order to finance the switch. I really like the Z6, the ergonomics, the wonderful image quality, also in very low light and to me it seems that 24 Mpx is a sort of goldielocks for an image sensor. I never print bigger than A3+, and I create 4k slideshows for my 4k TV.

Then the Zf was announced, I like the retro look but what really caught my attention was the AF system from the Z8 and Z9 using Expeed 7. Would it be good for wildlife? Ok, burst speed would be slower but 8 to 10 fps would be fine for me.

Anyway, a few days ago I decided to purchase it, already having studied the Reference Manual knowing I could configure quite a few knobs.

The result is that now I have a mini Z8 at almost half the price! Bird-eye detect is incredibly fast, also far away and with small birds. When holding down the Fn button it instantly switches to 3D tracking which works amazingly well. The AF acquisition and tracking speed with my lightweight 500mm combi is superb, much, much faster than on the Z6 and also much faster than on my old D500.

I like the fysical dials, also the fact that the monitor can be set facing inwards, I shoot mostly using the EVF. Startup time after sleep is almost instant, battery life much better than on my Z6 and with the Smallrig grip it feels very comfortable in my (medium size) hands, total weight of body and grip being 820 grams.

So I am very, very happy with the Zf for wildlife and I thought I should share these experiences with you in case you are in a similar situation.

cheers, Frank
Had the ZF been out when I bought my Z8 I probably would have gotten that instead. Not that I regret getting the Z8 because it is pretty much what I wanted in a camera in the first place -- an the Zf would have as well), but I getting the Zf would have actually killed two birds with one stone: faster AF and the desire for physical dials (the latter I can actually live without though, since I still have my 35mm SLR camera).

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Being a wildlife (and landscape) photographer, for quite some time I was very jealous on a friend of mine who owns a Sony A1. The unbelievable accurate eye-detect on birds and other animals was something that I really envied, because my Z6 did not come close to that. I was already happy if once in while it would detect the eye of a deer.

Anyway, the Z9 arrived, too expensive and too bulky but promising in the AF department. Then the Z8, still quite heavy and still too expensive for me. The Z6 is nice and small, and if I put bigger glass on it then I add the SmallRig L-plate, makes the grip bigger and the whole thing more balanced. And my ‘bigger’ glass is my trusty lightweight 300mm f/4 PF VR with a TC17 and the FTZII, giving me 500mm f/6.7 with a weight of 1185 grams.

Nice and lightweight, but the AF speed on the Z6 was very slow, certainly compared to my old D500. But I had made the switch to mirrorless and sold all my DSLR’s a few years ago in order to finance the switch. I really like the Z6, the ergonomics, the wonderful image quality, also in very low light and to me it seems that 24 Mpx is a sort of goldielocks for an image sensor. I never print bigger than A3+, and I create 4k slideshows for my 4k TV.

Then the Zf was announced, I like the retro look but what really caught my attention was the AF system from the Z8 and Z9 using Expeed 7. Would it be good for wildlife? Ok, burst speed would be slower but 8 to 10 fps would be fine for me.

Anyway, a few days ago I decided to purchase it, already having studied the Reference Manual knowing I could configure quite a few knobs.

The result is that now I have a mini Z8 at almost half the price! Bird-eye detect is incredibly fast, also far away and with small birds. When holding down the Fn button it instantly switches to 3D tracking which works amazingly well. The AF acquisition and tracking speed with my lightweight 500mm combi is superb, much, much faster than on the Z6 and also much faster than on my old D500.

I like the fysical dials, also the fact that the monitor can be set facing inwards, I shoot mostly using the EVF. Startup time after sleep is almost instant, battery life much better than on my Z6 and with the Smallrig grip it feels very comfortable in my (medium size) hands, total weight of body and grip being 820 grams.

So I am very, very happy with the Zf for wildlife and I thought I should share these experiences with you in case you are in a similar situation.

cheers, Frank
I have similar uses and thoughts to you, but three things held me back:

1. The evf slideshow effect at high fps. I assume that's still present on the Zf as with the Z6?

2. Ergonomics may not be as good as the z6 for wildlife; then again, I shot wildlife with my X-T3 and it had similar dials.

3. The likelihood of a z6iii coming out "soon."

Glad you're enjoying yours. That price is certainly appealing!
 
I have similar uses and thoughts to you, but three things held me back:

1. The evf slideshow effect at high fps. I assume that's still present on the Zf as with the Z6?
Yes, but the normal High speed already gives you more than 8fps, so that is what I am using.
2. Ergonomics may not be as good as the z6 for wildlife; then again, I shot wildlife with my X-T3 and it had similar dials.

3. The likelihood of a z6iii coming out "soon."
I was tired of waiting….😁
Glad you're enjoying yours. That price is certainly appealing!
 
I have similar uses and thoughts to you, but three things held me back:

1. The evf slideshow effect at high fps. I assume that's still present on the Zf as with the Z6?
Yes, but the normal High speed already gives you more than 8fps, so that is what I am using.
I thought normal high, with regular evf behavior, was ~7.8 fps. Is that correct? If so, not bad. I had several Nikon's that didn't surpass that speed until I got the d500. I don't expect to have a 14fps blackout free shooting, of course, so 8fps with normal minimal blackout (like the dlsrs) might be ok. I guess I'm a little spoiled by my OM-1, though I usually only do 20fps; the higher modes are more specific circumstance and rarely needed.
2. Ergonomics may not be as good as the z6 for wildlife; then again, I shot wildlife with my X-T3 and it had similar dials.

3. The likelihood of a z6iii coming out "soon."
I was tired of waiting….😁
And it could be 2 months or fall 2024 before we see a z6iii. Who knows? I'll try to hold out till after Christmas, but I already have a spreadsheet going of estimates sale costs for some of my gear!
Glad you're enjoying yours. That price is certainly appealing!
 
I have similar uses and thoughts to you, but three things held me back:

1. The evf slideshow effect at high fps. I assume that's still present on the Zf as with the Z6?
Yes, but the normal High speed already gives you more than 8fps, so that is what I am using.
I thought normal high, with regular evf behavior, was ~7.8 fps. Is that correct? If so, not bad. I had several Nikon's that didn't surpass that speed until I got the d500. I don't expect to have a 14fps blackout free shooting, of course, so 8fps with normal minimal blackout (like the dlsrs) might be ok. I guess I'm a little spoiled by my OM-1, though I usually only do 20fps; the higher modes are more specific circumstance and rarely needed.
2. Ergonomics may not be as good as the z6 for wildlife; then again, I shot wildlife with my X-T3 and it had similar dials.

3. The likelihood of a z6iii coming out "soon."
Waiting with you - ‘soon’ is hopefully soon! Meanwhile saving for anticipated higher cost than Zf and increased depreciation of Z6ii
I was tired of waiting….😁
And it could be 2 months or fall 2024 before we see a z6iii. Who knows? I'll try to hold out till after Christmas, but I already have a spreadsheet going of estimates sale costs for some of my gear!
Glad you're enjoying yours. That price is certainly appealing!
 
I have similar uses and thoughts to you, but three things held me back:

1. The evf slideshow effect at high fps. I assume that's still present on the Zf as with the Z6?
Yes, but the normal High speed already gives you more than 8fps, so that is what I am using.
I thought normal high, with regular evf behavior, was ~7.8 fps. Is that correct? If so, not bad. I had several Nikon's that didn't surpass that speed until I got the d500. I don't expect to have a 14fps blackout free shooting, of course, so 8fps with normal minimal blackout (like the dlsrs) might be ok. I guess I'm a little spoiled by my OM-1, though I usually only do 20fps; the higher modes are more specific circumstance and rarely needed.
2. Ergonomics may not be as good as the z6 for wildlife; then again, I shot wildlife with my X-T3 and it had similar dials.

3. The likelihood of a z6iii coming out "soon."
Waiting with you - ‘soon’ is hopefully soon! Meanwhile saving for anticipated higher cost than Zf and increased depreciation of Z6ii
You could sell the z6ii now and use the zf until the z6iii comes out. Of course, then you'd lose money on the zf, but you will on the z6ii also!
I was tired of waiting….😁
And it could be 2 months or fall 2024 before we see a z6iii. Who knows? I'll try to hold out till after Christmas, but I already have a spreadsheet going of estimates sale costs for some of my gear!
Glad you're enjoying yours. That price is certainly appealing!
 
If the 33mp Z6III had been released at the same time as the Zf, I STILL would have picked the Zf.

I already have a Z9, which is part of that equation. And that doesn't mean I also won't buy a Z6III when it comes. I fully understand the frustration of those looking to see less expensive non-retro cameras from Nikon.

But WOW....the Zf is a seriously well rounded camera for 2 grand. And I'm loving every aspect of it at this point. Shooting with it tomorrow with my Sigma 135 ART for some portraits.

For wildlife, I think I'll stick to my Z9 though, but the Zf is certainly very capable. There was a fellow here who "proved" that he got consistently superior results from his Z6 vs. his Z7 using long lenses. So in some instances the Zf might have an edge over a Z9.

One thing is for certain: The Zf autofocus is awesome as is the IBIS.

Robert
 
I do have a Nikon Z9 for wildlife but I plan to use my ZF also for wildlife on the 800 PF or 400 TC. All camera s can do wildlife. You just need to work within its limitations.
 
I do have a Nikon Z9 for wildlife but I plan to use my ZF also for wildlife on the 800 PF or 400 TC. All camera s can do wildlife. You just need to work within its limitations.
Then why do you have a z9? Haha
 
So I am very, very happy with the Zf for wildlife and I thought I should share these experiences with you in case you are in a similar situation.
I second that, I am liking the camera more and more as I use it. Still need to get the settings completely dialled in but its clearly a big step up from my previous Z6ii for BIF.

As reported elsewhere I am seeing the brief dim viewfinder after waking from sleep, but it recovers if you remove you eye - hopefully this will be picked up in a firmware update or perhaps its a menu item I haven't identified yet.

I've not experienced any buffer or overheating issues.

C30 mode is surprisingly useful and I'm not seeing much viewfinder lag using that plus I still haven't experienced any problematic issues with electronic shutter with wing distortion in any mode.



C30 Jpeg capture - electronic shutter
C30 Jpeg capture - electronic shutter

Nef converted in Capture One, H+ drive mode & mechanical shutter
Nef converted in Capture One, H+ drive mode & mechanical shutter

Fast flying ducks (shoveler) seem to work well very well with subject detect
Fast flying ducks (shoveler) seem to work well very well with subject detect
 

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