R5 - Your Top Three dislikes? (Serious question)

3. Enforced touch-screen focusing on LCD. It'll refocus when you accidentally touch the screen which is highly annoying in some cases, and cannot be disabled.
Just to elaborate on this, hopefully without derailing the thread. Touch focus has two menu groups:

1. Touch and drag AF on the LCD when looking through the EVF. This can be disabled, so as not to bump AF box with your nose.

2. Using back LCD in live view, it is true that there is no separate option to disable touch AF, but you can disable touchscreen altogether.
Not a derail. Thanks for the additional info.
 
If only Canon asked!!!

1) The hot shoe is fragile. Hasn’t been a problem for me, but it worries me a lot every time I use flash.

2) No zebras in Stills mode.

3) When the meter times out (mine is 4 seconds) the controls do not time out. So as I carry the camera, the exposure comp or focus point gets set way out of range. This happens to me a lot. The controls eventually do time out, after perhaps 30 seconds, but by now my exposure comp has been knocked +3 or so.

4) (sorry). Some of the menu options need to be better organized and more clear. In particular, the process of configuring the camera to save to two memory cards is very confusing. The process of enabling the AF joystick requires 3 or 4 setting changes. Using HDR or PQ requires several setting changes across several different menus, and it’s not clear what happens.

5) (very sorry). If I’m using AutoISO and I dial in a Manual ISO value, I cannot dial the camera back to AutoISO. On the 5D Mark IV, I just dialed a notch below ISO 100 to get AutoISO, but on the R5, I need to use a Menu item to set it back.

6) Ok, this is getting ridiculously longer than 3 items and I’m truly sorry, but Canon needs to recompile DPPro for Mac so that it takes advantage of the multithreaded, multi-core RISC processor instead of running in single-threaded Intel emulation mode. I’m not saying this because I’m a nerd, but because it’s so slow that I can’t use it.
No apologies necessary. It's really interesting to read people's gripes.
 
If only Canon asked!!!

1) The hot shoe is fragile. Hasn’t been a problem for me, but it worries me a lot every time I use flash.

2) No zebras in Stills mode.

3) When the meter times out (mine is 4 seconds) the controls do not time out. So as I carry the camera, the exposure comp or focus point gets set way out of range. This happens to me a lot. The controls eventually do time out, after perhaps 30 seconds, but by now my exposure comp has been knocked +3 or so.

4) (sorry). Some of the menu options need to be better organized and more clear. In particular, the process of configuring the camera to save to two memory cards is very confusing. The process of enabling the AF joystick requires 3 or 4 setting changes. Using HDR or PQ requires several setting changes across several different menus, and it’s not clear what happens.

5) (very sorry). If I’m using AutoISO and I dial in a Manual ISO value, I cannot dial the camera back to AutoISO. On the 5D Mark IV, I just dialed a notch below ISO 100 to get AutoISO, but on the R5, I need to use a Menu item to set it back.

6) Ok, this is getting ridiculously longer than 3 items and I’m truly sorry, but Canon needs to recompile DPPro for Mac so that it takes advantage of the multithreaded, multi-core RISC processor instead of running in single-threaded Intel emulation mode. I’m not saying this because I’m a nerd, but because it’s so slow that I can’t use it.
No apologies necessary. It's really interesting to read people's gripes.
The frustrating part is that, besides the hot shoe, Canon can fix all of the issues I listed. Instead, they give us an effectively unusable 400 megapixel mode.

I love the camera but I dislike Canon as a company. They seem very uncaring about their customers. I’ve called their customer support line to report these issues and you can tell the guy on the phone is writing down stuff which he knows will be ignored by Management. I’m just the dumb sob who’s given them thousands and thousands of dollars; why should they care what I think?
 
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Based on the responses so far (thanks, everyone), common gripes seem to be:

1. lack of zebras in stills mode

2. limitations re FPS when using ES

3. rolling shutter, sometimes, under certain conditions, plus a couple of mentions of banding under certain conditions.

Great to see such a short list. None of them are deal breakers for me, which is great.
 
Based on the responses so far (thanks, everyone), common gripes seem to be:

1. lack of zebras in stills mode

2. limitations re FPS when using ES

3. rolling shutter, sometimes, under certain conditions, plus a couple of mentions of banding under certain conditions.
Rolling shutter is a good one.
Great to see such a short list. None of them are deal breakers for me, which is great.
 
I know this isn't what the OP asked for, but I couldn't help throwing this into the mix.

The fact that this camera is now over 3 years old and has been used in many shooting circumstances and weather-lighting conditions by so many people, pros and amateurs alike, and yet has such a short list of deficiencies is a testimony to how good it actually is.

Even now, while it's "long in the tooth" as they say, it's still being compared to two new top cameras in its class - the Nikon Z8 and Sony A7RV - and it's coming out with very high marks, not to mention having the best most user-friendly AF system of the three according to some reviewers.

Being a life-long Nikon guy till last Fall I don't know much about the Canon world, however, I know a great camera when I see one and use one and the R5 certainly qualifies.

Disclosure: this is not a paid commercial. ;-)

Rudy

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3. Enforced touch-screen focusing on LCD. It'll refocus when you accidentally touch the screen which is highly annoying in some cases, and cannot be disabled.
2. Using back LCD in live view, it is true that there is no separate option to disable touch AF, but you can disable touchscreen altogether.
But I don't want to disable the whole touchscreen. I want to be able to change the focus point with my finger, but have the actual focusing mapped to the back button. So the camera only refocuses when I press the back button. The above was possible with the 5DmkIV, but for some reason you can't disable the touch focus in the R5.
I just checked again, and I can do this on my R5 no problem - move the AF box with my finger without refocusing, press BBAF to focus. Do you have Continuous AF On or Off?
That's my setup for landscape photography, continuous AF is off, touch shutter release is off. Focus on half-press is off.

I wonder what else do you have in the settings that makes the difference?
 
A question for existing or former Canon R5 owners: in day to day use, what are your top 3 dislikes about this camera? Could be anything, however minor, that you don't think is well implemented or executed, or causes some sort of annoyance or other frustration in day to day use.

Thinking of buying one, hence the question. Although I have a good idea of all the good stuff about the R5, I would love to know about the niggles and annoyances from actual users, especially if they've had the camera a while.

Note: I'm only interested in dislikes related to photography. I don't shoot video.

Looking forward to your responses. Thanks!
 
1. The Focus Bracketing feature has a time-out to it and turns itself off (the R7 does not) and the focus bracketing cannot be used with a flash

2. Cannot control the FPS for the electronic shutter

3. No available sound for the electronic shutter
 
1) The camera is still not free, so I can't easily have many of them.

2) The camera does not shoot 200MP images at 40 fps with 15 stops of DR or 16K 4/4/4 video without overheating.

3) The camera stubbornly refuses to compose and light the picture, and neither will it press its own shutter at the best and most decisive moment.

Canon is obviously withholding the firmware upgrades which could easily support these obvious improvements!
 
Based on the responses so far (thanks, everyone), common gripes seem to be:

1. lack of zebras in stills mode

2. limitations re FPS when using ES

3. rolling shutter, sometimes, under certain conditions, plus a couple of mentions of banding under certain conditions.
Rolling shutter is a good one.
Great to see such a short list. None of them are deal breakers for me, which is great.
 
My top three dislikes:
  1. The flip out LCD screen. I rather have a tilting one. I have a seriously difficult time composing with off-axis screens. And the screen doesn't even flip out a full 180 degrees. Plus, with an L-bracket attached, the screen's articulation is limited.
  2. No zebras in stills.
  3. Can't select Auto when manually selecting ISO until the metering timer expires.
ps. My dislikes apply to the R7 as well.
 
Based on the responses so far (thanks, everyone), common gripes seem to be:

1. lack of zebras in stills mode

2. limitations re FPS when using ES

3. rolling shutter, sometimes, under certain conditions, plus a couple of mentions of banding under certain conditions.
Rolling shutter is a good one.
Great to see such a short list. None of them are deal breakers for me, which is great.
Rolling shutter only occurs with ES and very, very slightly with EFCS in corner cases. And with video, but this thread is only about stills shooting.
I prefer to use EFCS which I do with my R6II. Unfortunately my R7 came with a jack hammer shutter so I use ES.
 
Hmmm. Turtle Sundaes: Top 3 dislikes.
 
I know this isn't what the OP asked for, but I couldn't help throwing this into the mix.
No problem.
The fact that this camera is now over 3 years old and has been used in many shooting circumstances and weather-lighting conditions by so many people, pros and amateurs alike, and yet has such a short list of deficiencies is a testimony to how good it actually is.
This is my impression too, given the short list.
Even now, while it's "long in the tooth" as they say, it's still being compared to two new top cameras in its class - the Nikon Z8 and Sony A7RV - and it's coming out with very high marks, not to mention having the best most user-friendly AF system of the three according to some reviewers.

Being a life-long Nikon guy till last Fall I don't know much about the Canon world, however, I know a great camera when I see one and use one and the R5 certainly qualifies.

Disclosure: this is not a paid commercial. ;-)

Rudy
Very interesting feedback. Thanks
 
3. Enforced touch-screen focusing on LCD. It'll refocus when you accidentally touch the screen which is highly annoying in some cases, and cannot be disabled.
2. Using back LCD in live view, it is true that there is no separate option to disable touch AF, but you can disable touchscreen altogether.
But I don't want to disable the whole touchscreen. I want to be able to change the focus point with my finger, but have the actual focusing mapped to the back button. So the camera only refocuses when I press the back button. The above was possible with the 5DmkIV, but for some reason you can't disable the touch focus in the R5.
I just checked again, and I can do this on my R5 no problem - move the AF box with my finger without refocusing, press BBAF to focus. Do you have Continuous AF On or Off?
That's my setup for landscape photography, continuous AF is off, touch shutter release is off. Focus on half-press is off.

I wonder what else do you have in the settings that makes the difference?
I think I have an idea, and if I'm right, then I agree this is sloppy SW dev on Canon side.

Try setting [AF menu 1] - [AF method] to [smiley face + tracking], then [AF menu 5] - [Initial Servo AF pt for :)] to option 2 [AF pt set for ...]. Now you should be able to move around a single point AF box with touch screen without refocussing (double check continuous AF is off), and then start AF with your BBAF method.

More generally, it seems that if the main AF method menu is set to face tracking, then touch focus is disabled, but in all other modes it is enabled. This is inconsistent with the behavior of the joystick, which will move the AF box in all modes without refocussing. Get it together, Canon.
 
1. Hot pixels that are popping up at exposures longer than ~0.5 seconds. The longer the exposure, the more hot pixels I get. 'long exposure noise reduction' does help but it's an awkward feature. If you shoot a 5-minute long exposure, it'll be taking a dark frame for 5 minutes after that and the camera will effectively be locked for 10 minutes in total. Why cannot I take the dark frame separately? Or why cannot it reuse the dark frame taken a minute ago in the previous shot?

2. Enforced 12-bit raws in Electronic Shutter mode. Also you can't have an exposure longer than 0.5 seconds in ES mode which renders ES useless to me.

3. Enforced touch-screen focusing on LCD. It'll refocus when you accidentally touch the screen which is highly annoying in some cases, and cannot be disabled.
 

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