Nikon Z 180-600mm Lens Serial Numbers

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At least I need to observe how Nikon is releasing this lens to have a better idea what they are doing. I find it quite unusual that so many lenses with such high serial numbers are getting into customers' hands first. I wonder whether Nikon is trying to avoid a repeat of the Z8 massive recall scenario.
Perhaps they used LIFO method in the shipping container?

They are certainly a lot of lenses out there. Given the number of posts I have seen. Here and on FB.
I think it is clear that there are at least a few thousand 180-600 out there, and it is probably fair to classify that as "a lot," but I kind of doubt that there are > 20K so far.

Not that I follow every Nikon lens release so closely, but we did for the two PF lenses: the F-mount 500mm/f5.6 PF and 800mm/f6.3 PF. People can take a look at the excellent chart Alex C. prepared for the 800mm PF a few months ago:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66999885

The general trend is that serial numbers start from close to 20002001 and gradually go up over time. For the 800 PF, the rate suddenly increased around January 2023 and a few months later, the market was saturdated.

It is puzzling that so far we only see 20025000 to 20031000. Don't quote me on this, but hyperthetically, if Nikon somehow discovers that the first 20K have some issues they need to repair, that could explain this LIFO (last in, first out) situation.

Think about it, a Z8 package is relatively small. If one needs to ship a 180-600 back to Nikon, that is a huge pain. Many years ago, once I needed to ship my 500mm/f4 AI-P back to Nikon. That is a large package nightmere.
I bought three of the five Z items I currently own as refurbs, so I am definitely interested to see when the 180-600 appears in a refurb sale. The serial numbers do seem a bit odd, and I suppose if lenses with numbers below 20025000 show up in refurb sales we will know the answer as to why things happened the way they did.
 
I'm hunting down some number from the web


200254xx





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I'm hunting down some number from the web

200254xx
Thanks again Alain. That video was actually produced in Hong Kong, where I lived as a child; hence I have no problem understanding the video. It is interesting that even in Asia, the serial numbers are also in the range 20025000 to 20031000 we are now familiar with. (Incidentally Matt Ganger is also based in Hong Kong.)

There are quite a few images captured with the 180-600 on Flickr with the EXIF data intact. Hence it is easy to tell the origin of the Nikon body based on its serial number (3 US, 4 Canada, 6 Europe ...). Once again, except for a few pre-production samples with serial numbers below 20002000, all production serial numbers I can find are in the same range.
 
It is interesting that even in Asia, the serial numbers are also in the range 20025000 to 20031000 we are now familiar with. (Incidentally Matt Ganger is also based in Hong Kong.)

There are quite a few images captured with the 180-600 on Flickr with the EXIF data intact. Hence it is easy to tell the origin of the Nikon body based on its serial number (3 US, 4 Canada, 6 Europe ...). Once again, except for a few pre-production samples with serial numbers below 20002000, all production serial numbers I can find are in the same range.
Well, this blows my theory out of the water then. I had though that we may just be seeing some sampling bias, as this forum is predominately posted on by North Americans and Europeans. If the Asian market doesn't have it's own large set of serials, then I guess Nikon really did just start the lens serials atypically higher than usual.

I guess there's one other possible theory that the gap in lens serials were made, but were somehow all defective and we'll see them as refurbs one day. I think this is highly unlikely that, what, over 20,000-some lenses were made incorrectly if the serials started where they usually do? I know this isn't impossible, given the Z8 situation, but I just don't think this is the case.
 
It is interesting that even in Asia, the serial numbers are also in the range 20025000 to 20031000 we are now familiar with. (Incidentally Matt Ganger is also based in Hong Kong.)

There are quite a few images captured with the 180-600 on Flickr with the EXIF data intact. Hence it is easy to tell the origin of the Nikon body based on its serial number (3 US, 4 Canada, 6 Europe ...). Once again, except for a few pre-production samples with serial numbers below 20002000, all production serial numbers I can find are in the same range.
Well, this blows my theory out of the water then. I had though that we may just be seeing some sampling bias, as this forum is predominately posted on by North Americans and Europeans. If the Asian market doesn't have it's own large set of serials, then I guess Nikon really did just start the lens serials atypically higher than usual.
English is also widely used in Australia/New Zealand plus certain locations in Asia with a lot of British influences: India, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc. We should have some contribution from those locations. We'll probably won't get many posts from Japan and mainland China, two huge markets for Nikon.
I guess there's one other possible theory that the gap in lens serials were made, but were somehow all defective and we'll see them as refurbs one day. I think this is highly unlikely that, what, over 20,000-some lenses were made incorrectly if the serials started where they usually do? I know this isn't impossible, given the Z8 situation, but I just don't think this is the case.
Essentially it is either:
  1. The starting serial number for the 180-600 is for whatever reason much higher, e.g. 20200001 or 20250001.
  2. Nikon has produced a large number (~20K) of lenses with serial numbers below 20500000, but for whatever reason they have not shipped those lenses yet. We can speculate why, e.g. those lenses have some flaws that Nikon need to fix or they are limiting the size of the first batch to avoid a repeat of a massive recall as in the Z8. We can speculate all day long and we will probably never find out.
In the next month or two, we'll see whether the serial numbers will continue to go up or some of the earlier number will begin to appear.
 
20030480

Ordered on day 1 from Nikon USA via NPS
 
20030480

Ordered on day 1 from Nikon USA via NPS
Europe on very limited data seems to be 25-28.5 k.

USA on very limited data seems to be 29-32 k.

Japan - a big market - no reports.

China - a big market - no reports.
 
Nope!
 
20030480

Ordered on day 1 from Nikon USA via NPS
Europe on very limited data seems to be 25-28.5 k.

USA on very limited data seems to be 29-32 k.

Japan - a big market - no reports.

China - a big market - no reports.
From this thread, SN's for USA go from 20028200 to 20030480

Would be helpful if those reporting SNs indicated NPS (yes/no).
 
20030480

Ordered on day 1 from Nikon USA via NPS
Europe on very limited data seems to be 25-28.5 k.
No, I have seen one European S/N to be 2002984*.
USA on very limited data seems to be 29-32 k.
Based upon my own lens, I can say no to that.
Japan - a big market - no reports.

China - a big market - no reports.
I have seen serial numbers from Australia and Hong Kong in the 20025***, 20027*** ranges. Those ranges are not exclusive for the European market.
 
Picked up my sample today (Norway).

SN 200252xx

Regular preorder.

I double-checked, and the reseller confirmed that the chain of 18 stores only got six samples of this lens this time around.
 
Picked up my sample today (Norway).

SN 200252xx

Regular preorder.

I double-checked, and the reseller confirmed that the chain of 18 stores only got six samples of this lens this time around.
Congratulations. Therefore, you were #5 in the queue among all 18 stores, not #5 for that one particular store.

I know some lenses are going to regular amateurs, but most are going to NPS members, at least in the US. NPS members have priority, but it is not like all NPS orders must be fulfilled before any lens can go to non NPS.
 
Picked up my sample today (Norway).

SN 200252xx

Regular preorder.

I double-checked, and the reseller confirmed that the chain of 18 stores only got six samples of this lens this time around.
Congratulations. Therefore, you were #5 in the queue among all 18 stores, not #5 for that one particular store.

I know some lenses are going to regular amateurs, but most are going to NPS members, at least in the US. NPS members have priority, but it is not like all NPS orders must be fulfilled before any lens can go to non NPS.
Right, number 5 among all 18 stores.

However, I don't know if NPS customers are in another, separate queue. Considering the low sample count, it might be so.
 
I got my 180-600 in the last week here in the UK from a large retailer along with a Z8

SN is 2003015x

Lee
 
I got my 180-600 in the last week here in the UK from a large retailer along with a Z8

SN is 2003015x

Lee
Yours in 30,000 is first I have seen in this thread for U.K.

Did you get lens as regular public or as NPS member?
 
Sharing on this thread as well... Mine arrived today. I preordered 7/21 from NikonUSA.

NPS

SN: 20028xxx



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Sharing on this thread as well... Mine arrived today. I preordered 7/21 from NikonUSA.

NPS

SN: 20028xxx
Congratulations.

Just talked to a person in Taiwan. He has been posting to the FaceBook 180-600 group. His lens' S/N is 20026***. It is pretty clear that lenses sold in Australia, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Thailand also fall into the known 20025001 to 20031000 range.

Another one received in the US on Sept 12, 2023 is also 200281**. So far there is no production lens that I am aware of falling outside of that range, but of course eventually there will be more than 6000 samples.
 
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I picked up my 180-600 this morning

SN: 200303XX
 
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