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Leica X Vario
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Bejersey
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I don't think so. The only compacts, no interchangeable lens cameras in their future is Full Frame only IMO
Rick
Don't hold your breath waiting for an X Vario replacement. Except for a handful of high end fixed lens models like the Leica Q, Fuji X100 series, Ricoh GR series, and a few others, the point and shoot market has been crushed into oblivion by smart phones.
Texas_Stars
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Looks like to me that Leica is “missing the boat” on this one... I went to a grocery store here in Houston and saw children running up to a lady manager who had a spectacular personality that these children and their mothers gravitated to. I assure you that these children that were so warmly greeted will when they reach adulthood, shop at the same store.
Kids now, as we all can see, gravitate to their smartphones with no desire to use a DSLR. However, if Leica could see through this not-too-complicated forest and see clearly on the horizon more sales for the high-end Leicas that were generated by a mass-produced low-end Leica, then the thrill of Leica photography would only grow and grow.
Note: If I had been exposed to a Leica early on, then I would be really happy now with a Leica rangefinder and a number of Leica lenses, than the current collection of Nikon gear.
These are just my thoughts,
David
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Year after year, camera sales continue to go down, not up, and the first major casualties were the point & shoot cameras, which is why only a handful of high end full-frame and APS-C models are still being sold. Leica is not missing an opportunity but rather avoiding financial suicide.
My grandchildren, ages 9 and 11, just visited with my son. They both have their own iPhones, just like all of their friends, and zero interest in Leica. Unless one of them turns out to be a camera geek or a professional photographer, when I die, my son will take my kit to the Leica store and sell it, because nobody in the family has any interest in it.
My grandchildren, ages 9 and 11, just visited with my son. They both have their own iPhones, just like all of their friends, and zero interest in Leica. Unless one of them turns out to be a camera geek or a professional photographer, when I die, my son will take my kit to the Leica store and sell it, because nobody in the family has any interest in it.
LeicaEye
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The same story over many many families. Photography has moved on to new and exciting segments. We are the old guard as was Fox Talbot and many other photographic pioneers. We are as outdated as the wagons that explored the early west. Dinosaurs taking our last gasps..
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Regardless, its a growing market, no denying that.
Jay OC
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I have to agree with you David. I started off with a rangefinder, Kodak Retina IIa. I have been drawn to them ever since.
Leica is missing out on establishing brand loyalty by not having entry level cameras. Entry level camera lead to more advanced camera sales later.
Leica is missing out on establishing brand loyalty by not having entry level cameras. Entry level camera lead to more advanced camera sales later.
Texas_Stars
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Jay OC, thanks for this ... you have a greater flair for the English language than I have. Plus, what you wrote has greater clarity than my rambling stories, but both of us seem to be saying that Leica has missed the boat ... for as you say ... [generating] brand loyalty leads to more sales.
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They (Leica) would argue that is what their Panasonic re-brand models, instant film cameras, etc. are for.
I too don't see it happening. I love the X1, X2, X Vario and X Typ 113. After thousands of shot the battery lock (not the door) gave way. Leica has finally stopped supplying free parts so I ordered on on Ebay. I got it on but it no longer springs in and out. My friend's son has jewelry repair kiosk at the mall and he says all is attached properly. I'll baby it and just be careful when I slide the battery lock in or out. It DOES hold the battery in. The camera takes great photos and I buy into the theory that it was marketing mistakes that hindered its popularity.
For the past few years, my X1 flash no longer stays down. Someone suggested to me on the forums to simply shoot in continuous being careful to take just one shot. Works great. I wish a firmware option back in the day made "off" a settings option even with the flash popped up.
X2..on occasion I push the shutter and it won't take the shot. I believe the shutter needs a cleaning inside. Is there not a fellow in England who now repairs the old X cameras?
My Typ 113 is mint and I love it.
I believe my CL has a different style battery lock. I have the 18 and the 18-56. I am debating the 23 but that overlaps my 113 so maybe not needed? I have a Sony RX1r that is still really nice.
The X cameras are like old friends to me now. I have always taken great care with them while still taking thousands of photos. Hard for me to express the joy they have given me over the years. I love the simple menu systems and relatively small size and weight. No buying regrets. If they were still produced and sold NEW I'd probably consider buying a one here and there.
I have a Nikon Z6 II for full frame. Because of age and health I barely use it due to the size and weight. I'm not sure I would use a Q almost daily as great as they are for that reason. I've thought of the Sony A7C II but the camera would still be bigger than the Xs and CL.
Sorry to drag on but we seldom discuss the X series and I love them all.
Good thread.
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For the past few years, my X1 flash no longer stays down. Someone suggested to me on the forums to simply shoot in continuous being careful to take just one shot. Works great. I wish a firmware option back in the day made "off" a settings option even with the flash popped up.
X2..on occasion I push the shutter and it won't take the shot. I believe the shutter needs a cleaning inside. Is there not a fellow in England who now repairs the old X cameras?
My Typ 113 is mint and I love it.
I believe my CL has a different style battery lock. I have the 18 and the 18-56. I am debating the 23 but that overlaps my 113 so maybe not needed? I have a Sony RX1r that is still really nice.
The X cameras are like old friends to me now. I have always taken great care with them while still taking thousands of photos. Hard for me to express the joy they have given me over the years. I love the simple menu systems and relatively small size and weight. No buying regrets. If they were still produced and sold NEW I'd probably consider buying a one here and there.
I have a Nikon Z6 II for full frame. Because of age and health I barely use it due to the size and weight. I'm not sure I would use a Q almost daily as great as they are for that reason. I've thought of the Sony A7C II but the camera would still be bigger than the Xs and CL.
Sorry to drag on but we seldom discuss the X series and I love them all.
Good thread.
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Bejersey
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I've had all of those. I am sorry I sold the TYP 113
Rick
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Rick, They really were well done. The 113 is really good. A big deal was made about the 1.7 changing for close shooting but that has never bothered me.
I wonder if the CL with the 23 is as good as the 113? I'd love the old Xs released with built-in EVFs. Total fantasy but a nice one just the same.
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I wonder if the CL with the 23 is as good as the 113? I'd love the old Xs released with built-in EVFs. Total fantasy but a nice one just the same.
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Bejersey
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Still travel with my X1 and XV. Although they can still produce great images, using them seems more challenging, Not sure why. These cameras are ~10+ years old. Hard to imagine using a digital camera that old given the pace of new cameras and technology, but I do.
I have the VLUX 5 and DL7, and previously the VLUX Type 114 and D109. Nice cameras and good IQ but not in the same league as the X's (don't want to start any arguments here). They are very versatile for travel which is why I bought them.
Wish Leica continued with the APS sensor models further. I would have refreshed my X-series. Not sure if I'll continue with Leica after the X's break.
Recently bought a X100V. Fun camera, optics fine. Great travel camera. Considered a Type 113, but too much money given the alternatives these days.
Hopefully Leica will change its strategy and at least come out with a Vario-Q full frame. That would be a killer camera.
I have the VLUX 5 and DL7, and previously the VLUX Type 114 and D109. Nice cameras and good IQ but not in the same league as the X's (don't want to start any arguments here). They are very versatile for travel which is why I bought them.
Wish Leica continued with the APS sensor models further. I would have refreshed my X-series. Not sure if I'll continue with Leica after the X's break.
Recently bought a X100V. Fun camera, optics fine. Great travel camera. Considered a Type 113, but too much money given the alternatives these days.
Hopefully Leica will change its strategy and at least come out with a Vario-Q full frame. That would be a killer camera.
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