Ok, in the past. How about now?
I don't see four steps. I see two. Announcement and release. Or three - roadmap, announcement, and release, though you did not mention the first. All the rest is made up in an attempt to smear Nikon (even though most other manufacturers do exactly the same, again, except roadmap because they don't reveal one).
That's for sure. I just feel sorry for those that actually expect to get one in their hands prior to the mid to late September time frame at the earliest. Probably later for most folks.
I'm just going to be happy once they start shipping out. Even if I don't get one first batch, we can at least see reviews and get more information
After watching two rounds of service advisories for the Z8, why are people so eager to et the 180-600? Nikon first put the 200-600 on their roadmap almost 4 years ago. Some have been waiting for a few years; another couple of months shouldn't make much of a difference.
I'm sure you'd feel this way about a new camera body too. Or anything else. Right?
We need to keep in mind that 4 years ago, most of us had no idea what Covid 19 was. Nikon first put out that roadmap in October 2019, and shortly after that, the world literally changed drastically. Additionally Nikon's priorities shifted to the Z9 and lenses that support it. A bunch of lenses such as the 400/2.8 TC, 600/4 TC, 400/4.5, and 800 PF preempted the 200-600/180-600.
I believe that this did play a major role, and I am wondering if they redesigned it to be 180-600 after making the Tamron 70-180/2.8. This pure speculation on my part though.
I agree that this is nonsense. They simply do not want to expand production capacity to the level that will meet initial demand because building this up this costs a lot and it will never be needed again after the first few months.
PF elements and large FL elements are two separate categories. It is time-consuming to manufacture/fabricate those. The 180-600 has no really special elements and its front filter size is 95mm. I don't expect supply to be a major issue; one may have to wait a few weeks. However, all bets are off if there is some major recall. That seems less likely for lenses, though.
I don't see the linkage. Are you implying Z 180-600 len's tripod mount might suddenly fall apart? Or lens itself my need shims somewhere in optics?
Should Z 180-600mm lens go routes of a couple of previous Z lens; you will be able to repeat that, three times.
Sure, that is understandable. But there is an associated cost with savings of low production rates.
My "B+W 95mm Master Clear MRC Nano 007M Glass Filter" awaits Z lens.
I doubt that is the case. There will be demand for the 180-600, but such long a lens is a niche product. And IMO the 180-600 will not be that useful without the AF from the Z9 or Z8 behind it. If more people own the 180-600 than the Z8, are they all Z9 owners?
The D850 and Z9 did not have PF and FL elements. This is a general production strategy with high-end items, independent of the specifics.
We were talking about lenses. The bottleneck for the Z9 was undoubtedly the stacked sensor. When Nikon started production of the Z9 in late 2021, it was still in the middle of the pandemic IC-chip shortage. Hence Nikon had a hard time getting enough sensors, and the production of just about everything was seriously affected by the pandemic back then.
The Sony 200-600 is one of the most popular birding and wildlife lenses today. You’ll find it on all bodies, from a6000 to the a1. I have an a1 + this lens, and I have a Z6 mk i, and a Z9, with a 180-600 on order. It won’t go on the z6, but that’s not to say I wouldn’t put it on a Z6/7ii or good APS-C body (a D500 replacement) if one comes along.
Your post highlights the situation for Sony as well as for Nikon. Sony's 200-600 is popular for birding and wildlife because Sony do not have as many super tele selections as Nikon have now. I have a Z9 also, and I have a 600mm/f4 AF-S VR and a 500mm/f5.6 PF in the F mount; I also have the 400mm/f4.5 and 800mm PF in the Z mount. Hence I don't have much interest in the 180-600.
It's the #1 lens on B&H. I ordered it for my Z50.
Yes, well I'm waiting to see how available this lens ends up being. If it's in an in stock situation at year end I may be tempted. Otherwise I'll just wait till that time comes.It's the #1 lens on B&H. I ordered it for my Z50.
It's not niche. You want to claim it is, but it's the entry price point for legitimate wildlife lenses in z mount. Every thing else is between 2 and 8 times more expensive.
