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Z8 problems lead to Z8ii sooner/later than Nikon planned?

Z8 problems lead to Z8ii sooner/later than Nikon planned?

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batleys said:
sirhawkeye64 said:
astirusty said:
Will Z8's short battery life and higher potential to overheat; coupled to lenses not locking (some Z8s) and anchor strap failure recalls drive Nikon to get Z8ii to market sooner than planned or result in Nikon taking more time on Z8ii?

(Similar to Nikon quickly following up Z6 / Z7s with Z6ii / Z7iis.)

Feel free to post how many months sooner or later for Z8ii. Since only Nikon knows original schedule, only Nikon can say you are wrong. ;-)

Why Poll? For fun discussion and sense of what people think should be outcome.
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So far, the two TSAs have not really lead to any functional problems from an imaging standpoint (such as dust on the sensor, faulty sensor,etc) and have been more "external". I don't think it will impact the release timeframe for aZ8 II, which will probably be 2-3 years from now regardless.
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I suspect a slightly 'revised' z8 is being created now anyway. It appears supply inventory from Nikon has dried up into the UK right now - and possibly continental Europe - whilst a new 'version' of the z8 is manufactured or modified. It might be just the service advisory fixes or possibly there are other less severe optimisations or checks happening to reduce the likelihood of future recalls - this is pure speculation on my part.. but what is fact is that at least one retailer has advised me that z8 deliveries have hit pause with no expected delivery resumption dates announced at this time. It feels like I will be waiting at least into September - but at least it should be ship shape by then :-)
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That or they halted new shipments until they could address the existing issues before sending them out (maybe that's what you meant by a "revised" Z8). Here in the US because there are a lot of resellers, it might be hard to have them all send them back so they just take care of them through a TSA and have people just send them in as they're doing now. Plus with a TSA not everyone is going to send theirs in either, and that does save Nikon some money (at least for now), as they will view it as not really impact them (I was on the fence about this, but decided to send mine in anyway, better to do it sooner than later when everyone else does).

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mosswings said:
The original question asked: "will the z8II schedule be changed and by how much because of these various problems?"
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When claiming to quote ("") someone; at least try to get it right.

"Will Z8's short battery life and higher potential to overheat; coupled to lenses not locking (some Z8s) and anchor strap failure recalls drive Nikon to get Z8ii to market sooner than planned or result in Nikon taking more time on Z8ii?"
 
So tired of listening to the 2 different card slots being a major issue. As has been written about, if you set the backup to jpg the problem disappears completely. In the (extremely) rare event that your card fails, you still have an excellent jpg copy.
 
jimdelves said:
So tired of listening to the 2 different card slots being a major issue. As has been written about, if you set the backup to jpg the problem disappears completely. In the (extremely) rare event that your card fails, you still have an excellent jpg copy.
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As someone who changed cameras to move to a model with identical card slots, it is a deal breaker. I don’t think it unreasonable to want to use just a single card type. A major issue, no of course not, I’ll just buy a different camera, Nikon only has two with dual CFexpress slots, the D6 and the Z9, no problem. Simply, I just don’t get Nikon’s reasoning but so what, I don’t have to buy one.
 
jimdelves said:
So tired of listening to the 2 different card slots being a major issue. As has been written about, if you set the backup to jpg the problem disappears completely. In the (extremely) rare event that your card fails, you still have an excellent jpg copy.
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The obvious solution is stop with "2 different card slots"; and go with 3 different card slots. :-P

How about a camera body with two CFExpress slots and purchasable CFExpress to SD card adapter?
 
astirusty said:
jimdelves said:
So tired of listening to the 2 different card slots being a major issue. As has been written about, if you set the backup to jpg the problem disappears completely. In the (extremely) rare event that your card fails, you still have an excellent jpg copy.
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The obvious solution is stop with "2 different card slots"; and go with 3 different card slots. :-P

How about a camera body with two CFExpress slots and purchasable CFExpress to SD card adapter?
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Honestly if Sony can figure out how to make a CFexpress+SD combo slot, I'm sure NIkon could too if they actually cared enough to try.

I am fully aware the Sony's combo slot is Type A with SD, but the Type A card is still larger and wider than an SD card. There's no way a Type B+SD combo slot is impossible.



A1's combo slots
A1's combo slots
 
LTheWafflePWN said:
astirusty said:
jimdelves said:
So tired of listening to the 2 different card slots being a major issue. As has been written about, if you set the backup to jpg the problem disappears completely. In the (extremely) rare event that your card fails, you still have an excellent jpg copy.
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The obvious solution is stop with "2 different card slots"; and go with 3 different card slots. :-P

How about a camera body with two CFExpress slots and purchasable CFExpress to SD card adapter?
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Honestly if Sony can figure out how to make a CFexpress+SD combo slot, I'm sure NIkon could too if they actually cared enough to try.

I am fully aware the Sony's combo slot is Type A with SD, but the Type A card is still larger and wider than an SD card. There's no way a Type B+SD combo slot is impossible.

A1's combo slots
A1's combo slots
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Can't go the "S"-word route. Perhaps a microSD card instead of SD card?
 
SmilerGrogan said:
Based on past experience with Nikon the answer is probably not. They’ll fix the problems as they go.

And what is this overheating baloney? No one who shoots video would ever dream of making 8 or 10 minute shots. If your shot lasts more than a a minute, you’ll bore the audience to death (unless you’re Alfonso Cuaron).
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Guess you never heard of video Editing? Turning an hour's worth of video into 10 minutes of audience entertainment.
 
astirusty said:
SmilerGrogan said:
Based on past experience with Nikon the answer is probably not. They’ll fix the problems as they go.

And what is this overheating baloney? No one who shoots video would ever dream of making 8 or 10 minute shots. If your shot lasts more than a a minute, you’ll bore the audience to death (unless you’re Alfonso Cuaron).
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Guess you never heard of video Editing? Turning an hour's worth of video into 10 minutes of audience entertainment.
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Not many DPs shoot one solid hour clip then morph it into 10 minutes though.
 
jimdelves said:
So tired of listening to the 2 different card slots being a major issue. As has been written about, if you set the backup to jpg the problem disappears completely. In the (extremely) rare event that your card fails, you still have an excellent jpg copy.
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OR if you don't need 20 fps, and can get away with 10-15 fps, and you're using UHS-II cards, then you're probably fine. I never saw the dual card system in the Z8 to be a big hinderance. Yes it does mean I can't hold the shutter button down for 30 seconds, but that's probably also a good thing. Last thing I would need is 900 images to go through (No, I don't do this, but some people might). If anything, I leave it on 20 fps and do very short bursts of moving subjects where I can't predict the movement. But my point is that it's hardly going to be a hinderance for the average user. "Power users" may want to consider a Z9 instead, but it's also one sacrifice you make to save $1500.
 
astirusty said:
Will Z8's short battery life and higher potential to overheat; coupled to lenses not locking (some Z8s) and anchor strap failure recalls drive Nikon to get Z8ii to market sooner than planned or result in Nikon taking more time on Z8ii?

(Similar to Nikon quickly following up Z6 / Z7s with Z6ii / Z7iis.)

Feel free to post how many months sooner or later for Z8ii. Since only Nikon knows original schedule, only Nikon can say you are wrong. ;-)

Why Poll? For fun discussion and sense of what people think should be outcome.
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That’s just stupid. Battery life and overheating were known facts going in. Not something discovered after release.

Mount and lug issues? These are assembly issues and have now been fixed on the assembly line.

There is no need for a quickly updated V2 of the Z8. What a moronic poll.
 
michaeladawson said:
astirusty said:
Will Z8's short battery life and higher potential to overheat; coupled to lenses not locking (some Z8s) and anchor strap failure recalls drive Nikon to get Z8ii to market sooner than planned or result in Nikon taking more time on Z8ii?

(Similar to Nikon quickly following up Z6 / Z7s with Z6ii / Z7iis.)

Feel free to post how many months sooner or later for Z8ii. Since only Nikon knows original schedule, only Nikon can say you are wrong. ;-)

Why Poll? For fun discussion and sense of what people think should be outcome.
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That’s just stupid. Battery life and overheating were known facts going in. Not something discovered after release.

Mount and lug issues? These are assembly issues and have now been fixed on the assembly line.

There is no need for a quickly updated V2 of the Z8. What a moronic poll.
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Actually, I'm surprised at how well the Z8 does in some caes, and as Ricci had pointed out, it does depend on your card to a degree and less on the battery. yes the battery only gives you about 120 minutes (or maybe it was 90 minutes) at best, but that's not a heat issue and I'd consider that pretty good for the battery. I mean I was expecting limitations in 30 or 60 minutes to be honest (although I don't shoot 8k so it's all irrelevant for me but may be a concern for others).
 
PaulV said:
They are repaired. The sophistry on this site is unbelievable. A refurbished unit is one that has been used and then restored to new. This is all such a waste of discussion. And no, they're not going to release a new version soon. It's a great camera. There were some problems with production and they are fixing it. End of story. Nothing to see here. I have photos to take.
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Thank You Thank You Thank You!!! Some of these people seem like in house trolls with nothing better to do!!!
 
sirhawkeye64 said:
michaeladawson said:
astirusty said:
Will Z8's short battery life and higher potential to overheat; coupled to lenses not locking (some Z8s) and anchor strap failure recalls drive Nikon to get Z8ii to market sooner than planned or result in Nikon taking more time on Z8ii?

(Similar to Nikon quickly following up Z6 / Z7s with Z6ii / Z7iis.)

Feel free to post how many months sooner or later for Z8ii. Since only Nikon knows original schedule, only Nikon can say you are wrong. ;-)

Why Poll? For fun discussion and sense of what people think should be outcome.
Click to expand...
That’s just stupid. Battery life and overheating were known facts going in. Not something discovered after release.

Mount and lug issues? These are assembly issues and have now been fixed on the assembly line.

There is no need for a quickly updated V2 of the Z8. What a moronic poll.
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Actually, I'm surprised at how well the Z8 does in some caes, and as Ricci had pointed out, it does depend on your card to a degree and less on the battery. yes the battery only gives you about 120 minutes (or maybe it was 90 minutes) at best, but that's not a heat issue and I'd consider that pretty good for the battery. I mean I was expecting limitations in 30 or 60 minutes to be honest (although I don't shoot 8k so it's all irrelevant for me but may be a concern for others).
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Yes, indeed. Maybe I didn’t phrase it right. Battery life and possible overheating were known quantities going in considering what the Z8 is. There is no reason Nikon would be quickly rushing out a Z8 II.
 
astirusty said:
How about a camera body with two CFExpress slots and purchasable CFExpress to SD card adapter?
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To perhaps partially clarify Sony use CF express type a which is the same size as SD.
 
Leonard Shepherd said:
astirusty said:
How about a camera body with two CFExpress slots and purchasable CFExpress to SD card adapter?
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To perhaps partially clarify Sony use CF express type a which is the same size as SD.
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CFexpress Type A and SD cards are similar, but different dimensions.

CFexpress Type A is 20mm x 28mm x 2.8mm.

SD is 24.0mm x 32.0mm × 2.1mm.

It isn't much, but the 0.7mm difference in thickness is probably relevant in order to maintain proper contact to the SD's contact pads, while Sony probably had to design the CFexpress contacts in such a way that the card isn't sunk the whole extra 4mm into the camera to accommodate the longer SD card
 
PaulV said:
They are repaired. The sophistry on this site is unbelievable. A refurbished unit is one that has been used and then restored to new. This is all such a waste of discussion. And no, they're not going to release a new version soon. It's a great camera. There were some problems with production and they are fixing it. End of story. Nothing to see here. I have photos to take.
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Refurb does not automatically mean it was used. Sometimes new "old stock" is considered refurbished (as I said in another post on refurbished items, I used to buy refurbished computers which were actually just last-year's models when the newer models came out. In some cases they were as old as 2 years old, but otherwise still new in the box but cost about half as much as a current new one).
 
it's like the game telephone. Good on you for bringing it back to original statement.
 
aniltulsi said:
astirusty said:
Will Z8's short battery life and higher potential to overheat; coupled to lenses not locking (some Z8s) and anchor strap failure recalls drive Nikon to get Z8ii to market sooner than planned or result in Nikon taking more time on Z8ii?

(Similar to Nikon quickly following up Z6 / Z7s with Z6ii / Z7iis.)

Feel free to post how many months sooner or later for Z8ii. Since only Nikon knows original schedule, only Nikon can say you are wrong. ;-)

Why Poll? For fun discussion and sense of what people think should be outcome.
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I have the best wife in the world, but she is capable of giving me pain few times.

So what...

Now I have the Z8, the best camera I have owned ever... ☺️

(Not waiting for a new wife or Z8ii 😝)
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I hope your wife doesn't read this forum! I'm not sure she'd be pleased with the comparison to a camera. 😁
 
syberman7 said:
aniltulsi said:
astirusty said:
Will Z8's short battery life and higher potential to overheat; coupled to lenses not locking (some Z8s) and anchor strap failure recalls drive Nikon to get Z8ii to market sooner than planned or result in Nikon taking more time on Z8ii?

(Similar to Nikon quickly following up Z6 / Z7s with Z6ii / Z7iis.)

Feel free to post how many months sooner or later for Z8ii. Since only Nikon knows original schedule, only Nikon can say you are wrong. ;-)

Why Poll? For fun discussion and sense of what people think should be outcome.
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I have the best wife in the world, but she is capable of giving me pain few times.

So what...

Now I have the Z8, the best camera I have owned ever... ☺️

(Not waiting for a new wife or Z8ii 😝)
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I hope your wife doesn't read this forum! I'm not sure she'd be pleased with the comparison to a camera. 😁
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Nope... The opposite... She thinks I love my camera more than I love her, so if she finds that i compared her to my camera, she will, infact, be very pleased 😝
 
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