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CBR1100XX said:
The Point and Shoot Pro said:
Eric Carlson said:
For you old timers: Did you forget to push the turbo button? :)

Also, Check event Viewer for possible error info.
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Oh the memories. How come my game is not running like it should...Oh look, someone pressed the turbo button. THANKS for the flashback!
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The good ole 4.77 MHz of fury!
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Playing the older, side-scroller DOS Red Baron!

As I recall, on a 286 machine it ran too fast to be playable.
 
SecondTimeAround said:
The Point and Shoot Pro said:
Nobody needs more than 64mb of ram. HA HA!
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Did anyone say such a thing?

Over 40 years ago, Bill Gates was attributed to having said, "640K ought to be enough for anybody". That's 640KB, not 64MB. In any case, he denies having said that.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2534366/the-quotable-bill-gates--in-his-own-words.html
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My memory is not what it used to be, and does play tricks on me..

I think it was 1986 or '7 and we had a lab full of 80286 machines which topped out at 640K of memory. If we wanted to get above that we needed additional hardware or software (I forget which). It wasn't until we got into 80386 machines that we could easily break into the megabytes.

Peter
 
BobKnDP said:
LynniePad said:
David Lal said:
BobKnDP said:
I doubt that NVME to SATA adapters exist, but I'm not sure. SATA M.2 drives have adapters, but who buys SATA M.2 drives?
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Yes, I doubt that they exist as well but that is what I have (perhaps mistakenly) understood from Lynniepad's post.
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No adapters, just the SATA and Power cables provided. Basic m/b with 2x M.2 slots, one for NVMe boot drive, the other for WiFi+BT.
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In other words, they were SATA drives.

Too bad. It'd have been more interesting if there was a means of connecting an NVME M.2 drive to a SATA port. (Although it'd be undesirable, due to the data rate limits of SATA.)
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SATA is fine for many applications, and in the event of failure, these drives can easily be retrieved and read in any computer.
 
LynniePad said:
BobKnDP said:
LynniePad said:
David Lal said:
BobKnDP said:
I doubt that NVME to SATA adapters exist, but I'm not sure. SATA M.2 drives have adapters, but who buys SATA M.2 drives?
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Yes, I doubt that they exist as well but that is what I have (perhaps mistakenly) understood from Lynniepad's post.
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No adapters, just the SATA and Power cables provided. Basic m/b with 2x M.2 slots, one for NVMe boot drive, the other for WiFi+BT.
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In other words, they were SATA drives.

Too bad. It'd have been more interesting if there was a means of connecting an NVME M.2 drive to a SATA port. (Although it'd be undesirable, due to the data rate limits of SATA.)
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SATA is fine for many applications, and in the event of failure, these drives can easily be retrieved and read in any computer.
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Data rate snob here. ;-)

I imagine that the number of people who wish to adapt M.2 NVME drives may explain why no adapter are available.

I own and M.2 NVME adapter, but not for normal storage use. I've used it as a tool when drive cloning.
 
DotCom Editor said:
It was all great until about 10 days ago. Now my new desktop PC is taking five to seven seconds just for a simple keystroke to display. Same for opening a browser tab or Explorer window. I/O operations are even slower: opening a video, or Word file. Everything is running similarly slowwwwwww. Previously, it was all blazingly fast.
  • Win 11 Pro, 32GB RAM; 22H2 build 22521.1702
  • 2TB HD; 1.16TB free
  • 2TB SSD; 1.64TB free
  • 12th Gen Intel Core i9-12900 2.40 GHz
KB5026446, the 2023-05 22H Preview is NOT installed. Windows Update is otherwise current.

McAfee and Norton scans not finding anything.

No new software installed.
  • Task Manager reports 7% CPU use
  • 46% Memory use (Chrome is the biggest hog at 1.7GB)
  • Paging file set to 81,920MB (shouldn't be needed, though)
  • All system settings are factory default values
Short of doing a factory reset, do I have any other options?
No, I haven't booted into Safe Mode yet. That's next, though I'm not sure what that would reveal.

Modem and router rebooted, just for good measure.

I'm wondering if a not-very-nice website could have installed some surreptitious evilware.
Thanks in advance; I'm kinda stumped.
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Did you know that Windows has the ability to generate a Performance trace report and Diagnostic Report that is human readable? It's a great resource to get details on what is happening in realtime when you experience a problem like this.

Just Run "Performance Monitor" and drill into the System Diagnostic and System Performance data collector sets. Select the Performance set and hit the Play button on the toolbar. Exercise your computer to reproduce the problem in question. Go back and hit the Stop button. Then drill into

the Reports and find the one just created. It will have lots of details about what was happening during the trace. Sometimes it is even useful and can be shared if you need help understanding it.

The Diagnostic report might also be helpful.

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Excellent tip.
 
AwkwardSwine said:
Did you know that Windows has the ability to generate a Performance trace report and Diagnostic Report that is human readable? It's a great resource to get details on what is happening in realtime when you experience a problem like this.
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Very useful post. Thanks.
 
DotCom Editor said:
It was all great until about 10 days ago. Now my new desktop PC is taking five to seven seconds just for a simple keystroke to display. Same for opening a browser tab or Explorer window. I/O operations are even slower: opening a video, or Word file. Everything is running similarly slowwwwwww. Previously, it was all blazingly fast.
  • Win 11 Pro, 32GB RAM; 22H2 build 22521.1702
  • 2TB HD; 1.16TB free
  • 2TB SSD; 1.64TB free
  • 12th Gen Intel Core i9-12900 2.40 GHz

Thanks in advance; I'm kinda stumped.
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How about this?
 
sludge21017 said:
DotCom Editor said:
It was all great until about 10 days ago. Now my new desktop PC is taking five to seven seconds just for a simple keystroke to display. Same for opening a browser tab or Explorer window. I/O operations are even slower: opening a video, or Word file. Everything is running similarly slowwwwwww. Previously, it was all blazingly fast.
  • Win 11 Pro, 32GB RAM; 22H2 build 22521.1702
  • 2TB HD; 1.16TB free
  • 2TB SSD; 1.64TB free
  • 12th Gen Intel Core i9-12900 2.40 GHz
Thanks in advance; I'm kinda stumped.
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Seems disconnected from the OP's issues.

Strange. The I9-12900K was released in November of 2021. No one has discovered the issues prior to now?

I'll await reports in the online press.
 
It may not be relevant to the OP's issues, but last year my brand-new build became very sluggish, keystrokes would take seconds to display and then show up in a quick succession. After some investigations it turned out that the keyboard was the culprit. It is a Logitech K800, wireless with a dongle (so I can switch it easily to another PC). It was permanently charged, but the rechargeable battery had reached EOL. After replacing the two AA batteries, everything was back to normal.

YMMV,

Peter
 
sludge21017 said:
DotCom Editor said:
It was all great until about 10 days ago. Now my new desktop PC is taking five to seven seconds just for a simple keystroke to display. Same for opening a browser tab or Explorer window. I/O operations are even slower: opening a video, or Word file. Everything is running similarly slowwwwwww. Previously, it was all blazingly fast.
  • Win 11 Pro, 32GB RAM; 22H2 build 22521.1702
  • 2TB HD; 1.16TB free
  • 2TB SSD; 1.64TB free
  • 12th Gen Intel Core i9-12900 2.40 GHz
Thanks in advance; I'm kinda stumped.
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How about this?
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This is bs.
 
PeterCD said:
It may not be relevant to the OP's issues, but last year my brand-new build became very sluggish, keystrokes would take seconds to display and then show up in a quick succession.
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Peter, actually, that is very relevant or at least helpful, if not to the OP then perhaps to others. I have often found wireless devices: mouse, keyboard, printer etc. to be problematic Therefore I keep cabled options open with spares in the cupboard.

3 days ago I spilt red wine into my wireless HP mouse. Well, the thing behaved as if it were drunk! Normal cleaning methods (tissue etc.) did not help much so I just washed it under the cold water tap in the bathroom. Dried it with a hair dryer then left it on a sunny window cill till today - perfect!

Keyboards are worse but the technique still works.
 
Neat.

I might have suggested a final rinse with distilled/deionized water just to reduce any mineral residuals. but if tap water worked for you, great.
 
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