New camera from Nikon

I just a short discussion with my local dealer (Z8 has to be send to do the check!) and he told me that begin August Nikon will introduce a new camera under NDA agreement.
(So he is supposed to not communicating any details of this camera until official announcement)

I don’t know which camera it will be nor when it will be officially introduced in the market.

What do you guys think : a Nikon Zf , a Z6 iii?

Orsonneke said:

I just a short discussion with my local dealer (Z8 has to be send to do the check!) and he told me that begin August Nikon will introduce a new camera under NDA agreement.
(So he is supposed to not communicating any details of this camera until official announcement)

I don’t know which camera it will be nor when it will be officially introduced in the market.

What do you guys think : a Nikon Zf , a Z6 iii?

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Basically anything other than Z8, Z9 or Z30 could be updated. I would say that Z6 III is strongly needed but a DX model would interfere less with sales of recently released Z8.

The Z6III would be most welcome, followed by a Z70 (or even a proper Z50 update), but nobody seems to have any indication that it would be one of those.

The absolute simplest would be a Zf: stick a Z5 or Z6 sensor in a Zfc body and remove one character from the model name and you are done. In reality I'd hope they'd aim a bit higher, e.g. put the Z5 innards in a Zfc-like shell, but the point is that a camera whose raison d'etre is the looks and dials can be built from the parts bin with very little effort.

To me a Zf would be just a holding move: releasing something to pick up a short-term sales boost while doing nothing to address the places where the range actually needs updating. But if there genuinely is something that close with not the slightest hint so far then my guess would be something like that.

I am however a bit doubtful of a release next month. Since wireless devices need certifying before release we usually get a bit of notice that something is coming, even if all we get is some internal codename. A more interesting possibility would be a development announcement of a more significant product, which would be consistent with the lack of certification leaks, but I'm not predicting that will actually happen.

I understand that gear people (to be expected on a gear site) like to engage in speculation — nothing wrong with that.

But with the years of only rumor mongering over the Z9 and Z8 and the half-decade waiting for the 180-600, well, I’m fed up with it myself.

Just thought I’d let you all know

I’m guessing that Nikon are working on cameras and lenses. I predict they’ll release something sometime. It’ll be good, maybe. But Sony boys will say it’s too big, too small or hasn’t got enough (or too many) buttons or slots.

My local guy says he has no idea what's coming out

- but he'll very happy to sell me one when it does come out.

Orsonneke said:

I just a short discussion with my local dealer (Z8 has to be send to do the check!) and he told me that begin August Nikon will introduce a new camera under NDA agreement.
(So he is supposed to not communicating any details of this camera until official announcement)

I don’t know which camera it will be nor when it will be officially introduced in the market.

What do you guys think : a Nikon Zf , a Z6 iii?

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Your dealer is under NDA, but discloses information about a future camera nonetheless?

Seems to me he's violating the NDA.

Well, the “details” are: there’s going to be a camera.

But maybe he meant that there’s going to be an NDA (ie. an NDA’d camera announcement to dealers) in August.


I wonder whether dealers have signed an NDA about not disclosing that NDAs will exist.

I’m not trying to make fun of the OP. I don’t doubt that the dealer said something along those lines.

Sounds like click bait to me

A "Z70" for me or ........ nothing! ;-)

ghostfox_1 said:

Sounds like click bait to me

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I don't any money with this info though!

it’s a zzz…

Pending major updates of Sony and Canon's FF cameras. Meaning those costing over $3000. Currently the Z6ii covers the vast majority of needs of most FF buyers. At a decent price. If not that, then there's the cheaper Z5.

So by far, the current gaping Hole in the Lineup would be cropped sensor cameras. Which I consider a gateway drug into every Major Camera brand which I state as being the big Three. Sony, Canon, and Nikon.

Wouldn't be shocked if it was the rumored FF Z fc, but it better not be half baked. Nor would I be shocked if Nikon already had a cropped camera with IBIS along with far more competitive specs by comparison to the competition.

BackToNature1 said:

So by far, the current gaping Hole in the Lineup would be cropped sensor cameras. Which I consider a gateway drug into every Major Camera brand.

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I disagree. Far from being a "gateway," for some people APS-C bodies are the ultimate goal; they do not want to carry around the bigger lenses that Full-Frame sensors need to produce similar results, and don't need the intrinsic advantages that FF sensors bring.

Orsonneke said:

I just a short discussion with my local dealer (Z8 has to be send to do the check!) and he told me that begin August Nikon will introduce a new camera under NDA agreement.
(So he is supposed to not communicating any details of this camera until official announcement)

I don’t know which camera it will be nor when it will be officially introduced in the market.

What do you guys think : a Nikon Zf , a Z6 iii?

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I'm going to guess the Zf as I've been told that a retro FF Z camera will be coming out later this year... supposedly was told September, but August is close enough.

My guess is it will be similar to a Z6 II in reality or it may just ues the same internals and perhaps a slightly tweaked AF system (but otherwise the same sensor and resolution, like they did with the Zfc in relation to the Z50).

Not likely a Z6 III as they will probably release a Z6 and Z7 together, but not this year.

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NOTE: If I don't reply to a direct comment in the forums, it's likely I unsubscribed from the thread/article..

BackToNature1 said:

Pending major updates of Sony and Canon's FF cameras. Meaning those costing over $3000. Currently the Z6ii covers the vast majority of needs of most FF buyers. At a decent price. If not that, then there's the cheaper Z5.

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Sorry, but (as far as I am concerned) the Z6II does not cover the needs of those FF buyers. The Z6II is already behind the current models of Sony and Canon (in terms of AF and in many cases video), let alone what new models these competitors may be bringing out.

Nikon seems aware of this (hence the lowered price of the Z6II) but is so far in no hurry to do something about it.

BackToNature1 said:

So by far, the current gaping Hole in the Lineup would be cropped sensor cameras. Which I consider a gateway drug into every Major Camera brand which I state as being the big Three. Sony, Canon, and Nikon.

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The hole includes the Z6/7II. It concerns not just DX format.

BackToNature1 said:

Wouldn't be shocked if it was the rumored FF Z fc, but it better not be half baked. Nor would I be shocked if Nikon already had a cropped camera with IBIS along with far more competitive specs by comparison to the competition.

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If the new camera is a Zf that reuses the Z6II it does not address the current hole in Nikon's lineup - even if it ends up selling well (which may well be the only goal Nikon has for it).

vtpeters said:

Seems to me he's violating the NDA.

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1. Probably not a good idea to trust randos on internet forums over leaks.

2. If OP isn't hallucinating, this dealer is awesome, we need more dealers like this, and no one this dealer has spoken to had better rat, because rats aren't cool.

Orsonneke said:

I just a short discussion with my local dealer (Z8 has to be send to do the check!) and he told me that begin August Nikon will introduce a new camera under NDA agreement.
(So he is supposed to not communicating any details of this camera until official announcement)

I don’t know which camera it will be nor when it will be officially introduced in the market.

What do you guys think : a Nikon Zf , a Z6 iii?

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There's been a lot of noise about an update to the Z6. I rather hope Nikon does not go down that road but instead, updates the Z7 line.

Karl Huber said:

Orsonneke said:

I just a short discussion with my local dealer (Z8 has to be send to do the check!) and he told me that begin August Nikon will introduce a new camera under NDA agreement.
(So he is supposed to not communicating any details of this camera until official announcement)

I don’t know which camera it will be nor when it will be officially introduced in the market.

What do you guys think : a Nikon Zf , a Z6 iii?

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There's been a lot of noise about an update to the Z6. I rather hope Nikon does not go down that road but instead, updates the Z7 line.

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I think they will, because the zFc was a huge hit. And it'll make them money, and won't cost much in the way of new tech since it'll be an old sensor. Maybe they'll toss a screw drive in for the 3 people who still want one.

AlanWatson said:

The Z6III would be most welcome, followed by a Z70 (or even a proper Z50 update), but nobody seems to have any indication that it would be one of those.

The absolute simplest would be a Zf: stick a Z5 or Z6 sensor in a Zfc body and remove one character from the model name and you are done. In reality I'd hope they'd aim a bit higher, e.g. put the Z5 innards in a Zfc-like shell, but the point is that a camera whose raison d'etre is the looks and dials can be built from the parts bin with very little effort.

To me a Zf would be just a holding move: releasing something to pick up a short-term sales boost while doing nothing to address the places where the range actually needs updating. But if there genuinely is something that close with not the slightest hint so far then my guess would be something like that.

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The Nikon Df was released not long after the Nikon D800, so it seems sort of logical. It was also a very long production run for them, so I'd expect a relatively modern sensor (one that they expect to be in production for a while) but closer to 24 than 48 megapixels.

I don't see it as a holding move so much as appealing to an audience other camera manufacturers are not.

I don't follow camera news closely enough to know what the holes in NIkon's lineup are.

AlanWatson said:

I am however a bit doubtful of a release next month. Since wireless devices need certifying before release we usually get a bit of notice that something is coming, even if all we get is some internal codename. A more interesting possibility would be a development announcement of a more significant product, which would be consistent with the lack of certification leaks, but I'm not predicting that will actually happen.

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BackToNature1 said:

Pending major updates of Sony and Canon's FF cameras. Meaning those costing over $3000. Currently the Z6ii covers the vast majority of needs of most FF buyers. At a decent price. If not that, then there's the cheaper Z5.

So by far, the current gaping Hole in the Lineup would be cropped sensor cameras. Which I consider a gateway drug into every Major Camera brand which I state as being the big Three. Sony, Canon, and Nikon.

Wouldn't be shocked if it was the rumored FF Z fc, but it better not be half baked. Nor would I be shocked if Nikon already had a cropped camera with IBIS along with far more competitive specs by comparison to the competition.

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I totally disagree; the current gaping hole is most certainly the Z6iii.

The biggest mistake Nikon can make is releasing a rehashed Z5/6 as a Zf. Such a release would mean increasing the current 2 year gap since the previous technology increase (the Z8 introduced no new technology).