Senior citizen photoshoot

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I am going to do a service of shooting portraits to local seniors that haven’t had a nice portrait in years.

here is the plan

almost clamshell with the westcott eyelighter for fill. I plan on scooting the key a bit one side. I will use a westcott xdrop background. Thinking a rim with a grid (1x3’) would help. Do you recommend placing the rim opposite of the key or on the same side?

thanks
 
I am going to do a service of shooting portraits to local seniors that haven’t had a nice portrait in years.

here is the plan

almost clamshell with the westcott eyelighter for fill. I plan on scooting the key a bit one side. I will use a westcott xdrop background. Thinking a rim with a grid (1x3’) would help. Do you recommend placing the rim opposite of the key or on the same side?

thanks
So-called "clamshell" lighting is likely NOT the best choice for seniors. It boils down to "butterfly lighting" with a fill reflector below the subject. That light is best suited for younger folks with symmetrical facial structure and no issue of heaviness around the chin/jawline or wrinkles or blemish or loose skin on the neck,

Going on the premises that they have not had a nice portrat in years, their perception of a nice porter thatisine that is somewhat flattering. I do not mean unnaturally smoothing the skin and creating false or artificial images without character. A flattering portrait involves good lighting and posting and posting strategies and deemphasizing certain unflattering elements.

Strictly speaking, a rim or kicker ligt shoud come fr the same direction he main lig to maintain the unity of lighting. Light striking the subject from angles of incidence of 135 degrees (typical rim or kicker light) can be very intense and may emphasize cert skin textures or they can blow out highlights so the need to be use carefully. A grid may preclude feathering.

There are many other lighting approaches that should consider- modified butterfly (loop), Rembrandt, Split, and varis directions of lighting such as broad, or shot main lighting- placed to better address various facial structures.

Ed Shapiro- Commercial and Portrait Photographer. Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
That will much more likely catch a glare in spectacles, especially those with convex prescriptions, more prevalent in the elderly.

Also, I prefer a rim from opposite side to key.

Ultimately, lighting choice is to the photographers artistic preference.
 
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I am going to do a service of shooting portraits to local seniors that haven’t had a nice portrait in years.

here is the plan

almost clamshell with the westcott eyelighter for fill. I plan on scooting the key a bit one side. I will use a westcott xdrop background. Thinking a rim with a grid (1x3’) would help. Do you recommend placing the rim opposite of the key or on the same side?

thanks
I prefer the rim on the same side as key. Although traditionally it is on the opposite side that always looks fake to me. Either way, don't overdo it - keep it subtle.

Which ever way, be sure you get good backdrop separation. You don't say what color or type of backdrop you plan, but I would expect to see a lot of gray or white hair and bald heads, so plan accordingly.

Gato
 
Because glass reflects light.

A light needs to be off axis such that the angle of incidence does not equal the angle of reflection as viewed from the cameras perspective.

A larger light source makes it more difficult to move the key further off axis to avoid the reflection.

OP might not have time to adjust lighting specific to each subject if he is shooting them in succession (which I am assuming), and with variable prescriptions especially in the elderly, a smaller light source is easier to manage.

Subjects would dislike lens glare more than slightly deeper skin wrinkles.
 
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I am going to do a service of shooting portraits to local seniors that haven’t had a nice portrait in years.

here is the plan

almost clamshell with the westcott eyelighter for fill. I plan on scooting the key a bit one side. I will use a westcott xdrop background. Thinking a rim with a grid (1x3’) would help. Do you recommend placing the rim opposite of the key or on the same side?

thanks
I prefer the rim on the same side as key. Although traditionally it is on the opposite side that always looks fake to me. Either way, don't overdo it - keep it subtle.

Which ever way, be sure you get good backdrop separation. You don't say what color or type of backdrop you plan, but I would expect to see a lot of gray or white hair and bald heads, so plan accordingly.

Gato
 
Because glass reflects light.

A light needs to be off axis such that the angle of incidence does not equal the angle of reflection as viewed from the cameras perspective.

A larger light source makes it more difficult to move the key further off axis to avoid the reflection.

OP might not have time to adjust lighting specific to each subject if he is shooting them in succession (which I am assuming), and with variable prescriptions especially in the elderly, a smaller light source is easier to manage.

Subjects would dislike lens glare more than slightly deeper skin wrinkles.
good point - my options are a 60" umbrella, a 48" deep parabolic softbox, 24" soft boxes.
 
I am going to do a service of shooting portraits to local seniors that haven’t had a nice portrait in years.

here is the plan

almost clamshell with the westcott eyelighter for fill. I plan on scooting the key a bit one side. I will use a westcott xdrop background. Thinking a rim with a grid (1x3’) would help. Do you recommend placing the rim opposite of the key or on the same side?

thanks
 
The date is 7/11. I have my practice room all setup in my spare room (took out the pool table and gained a makeshift studio :)
Too much anticipation!

Seriously, great fortune to you on this. I am eager to know what lighting setup(s) you ultimately used and how the whole process worked for you.

I am a part-time headshot photog, and have only done a maximum customer "burst" of two back-to-back shots; I have been pondering whether I want to do large-volume shots like you are about to undertake. And, like you, I have debated lighting on Senior skin. Is it true men prefer the "honest" small-light-source, HDR look? Probably not.

Etc., etc.

Cheers.
 
I am going to do a service of shooting portraits to local seniors that haven’t had a nice portrait in years.

here is the plan

almost clamshell with the westcott eyelighter for fill. I plan on scooting the key a bit one side. I will use a westcott xdrop background. Thinking a rim with a grid (1x3’) would help. Do you recommend placing the rim opposite of the key or on the same side?

thanks
Gettg back to basics. If yuo want to do a real service for your senior subjects, for a few moments, clear your mind of all the gear talk and technobabble, don't get hung up on "eyeglasses, or skin textures, and think instead of concept, motif, and the psychological aspect of what you are going to do.

If you want to come up with outstanding and satisfying results for your "clients" do not attempt to line them up like school kids on picture day and use the same pose and lighting on everyone. These people on not teenage models lining up for "headshots"!

If you want natural expression and poses, suggest they bring alog some "props" their favorite hat, a pipe outfit, fishing tackle, some for the job or profession, a hobby item, their cat or dog, or some things that tell a story about them. This will help folks to relax and become enthusiastic about your project.

As for skin texture. Folks here worry about extremes but most folks (clients] lkie a good compromise. They don't expect you to "erase their face" and produce a plastic effect or have a face look like a relief map of the Himalayas.


Eyeglasses can be addressed in various ways. If you understand how the angle of incidents theory works - it's a pieeof cake. You can negate reflection by raising the main light just enough to eliminate the glare but not high enough to insufficiently illuminate the eyes. If you use a giant umbrella or a giant softbox, this approach can be difficult or impossible. Some eyeglasses are problematic in that they are very large and/or convex and pick up reflection no matter what you do- I employ blank frames. Somete just slightly tiling the glasses downward solve the problem.

If you want to address faces and body styles of different structures with different features, there's no such thing as one lighing fits all. If you only have a few days to go, there is no time to begin to study all the various lighting forms. If you are up for it I'll post some basic diagrams and typical scenarios.

Attaced is a portrait made by window light. All I brought to the location was a camer, a portable background, and a reflector. This is from my file of instructional worksheets. The image is scanned for a 4x5 PrOOf. The coupl enjoyed the image into their late 90s and the 30x40 portrat hahs in the family home to this day. They left a treasured image for the children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren. Is that not the idea?



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Ed Shapiro- Commercial and Portrait Photographer. Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 

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