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Hi. I am old canon user and recently bought x h2. Taking photos jpeg. I Use cameras in street and lightbox. And be aware that while all condition almost as the same, fuji give 2-3 stop lack in the same exposure. Be sure i check metering time, focus length, under the same light and object, aperture. I use canon 18 55 and fuji 16 80. I know all diffrent sensor and objective but difference is much more then i guess. Especially under little low light this will be problem cause of blurred picture. I change light metering spot multi etc but also result did not change.

Additionally WB is too blue on fuji, for custom wb i use white paper in light box and result almost the same as canon. But, when i chose costum wb, so shutter speed down almost half Can you help me why fuji act like that. what is the problem. After canon understanding fuji is so diffucult to me. Thank you so much
 
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Selpearl said:
Hi. I am old canon user and recently bought x h2. Taking photos jpeg. I Use cameras in street and lightbox. And be aware that while all condition almost as the same, fuji give 2-3 stop lack in the same exposure. Be sure i check metering time, focus length, under the same light and object, aperture. I use canon 18 55 and fuji 16 80. I know all diffrent censor and objective but difference is much more then i guess. Especially under little low light this will be problem cause of blurrred picture. I change light metering spot multi etc but also result did not change.

Additionally WB is too blue on fuji, for custom wb i use white paper in light box and result almost the same as canon. But, when i chose costum wb, so shutter speed down almost half Can you help me why fuji act like that. what is the problem. After canon understanding fuji is so diffucult to me. Thank you so much
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Some full-size examples with intact EXIF data would go a long way towards sorting out what's going on. Your SOOC jpegs are 2 to 3 stops too dark?
 
Yes, it is dark if i set cameras settings at the same value. Because i use av mode. But he point is i have to make double iso for fuji to equal to canon shutter speed.

And fuji gives alot blue than canon white balance. I tried that to check posemeter how is working o fuji, take a photo of ceiling ligth. I think working so diffrent. Posemeters are multi set. Iso,f the same. Focus the same point.

Light one is fuji. Canon evaulate major lighting source but fuji evaulate everywhere. I just understand my new fuji acting.



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Selpearl said:
Yes, it is dark if i set cameras settings at the same value. Because i use av mode. But he point is i have to make double iso for fuji to equal to canon shutter speed.

And fuji gives alot blue than canon white balance. I tried that to check posemeter how is working o fuji, take a photo of ceiling ligth. I think working so diffrent. Posemeters are multi set. Iso,f the same. Focus the same point.

Light one is fuji. Canon evaulate major lighting source but fuji evaulate everywhere. I just understand my new fuji acting.

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Spot metering with the Fuji (with the INTERLOCK SPOT AE AND FOCUS AREA option on) should get you what you want here. You've got a real-time exposure preview in your EVF, so you can typically just tweak the exposure compensation to get what want too (I almost never use spot metering, but in this case it would probably appropriate for exposing for the light source itself).

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Can you clarify your settings?, I see an Overexposed fujifilm, not surprising given your SS. So this are not the same setting

I would check the Metering, you may have MUlti in the Fijifilm and Spot on the Canon?

Mario
 
No. F, iso and metering all the same. Multi. I tried multi because i want to check multi metering differences.
 
Thank you. Yes spot metering is working wonderful. But i am new in fuji. So i am trying to learn behavier of camera. Metering intelligence particular.

It is so different to me, blue jpeg, little dark jpeg and givin long exposure for raching the same ev. Theese are my consedering until now.
 
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Thank you. Yes spot metering is working wonderful. But i am new in fuji. So i am trying to learn behavier of camera. Metering intelligence particular.

It is so different to me, blue jpeg, little dark jpeg and givin long exposure for raching the same ev. Theese are my consedering until now.
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Fuji's Multi metering is generally very good, but in an unusual situation like this is thinking the shadow areas are important and is compromising.

I just shot this with no clipped highlights in Multi with lots of negative exposure compensation (-4.33 EV), but with an extremely bright subject that takes up only a small portion of the frame with a very dark background (like the moon) you might have to expose manually or use spot metering to expose for the highlights correctly...

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Thank you. What was the photo before you took -4.3 ev. Behave like my camera overexpose or different. By the way What is your posemeter amd wb setting generally?
 
Selpearl said:
Thank you. What was the photo before you took -4.3 ev. Behave like my camera overexpose or different. By the way What is your posemeter amd wb setting generally?
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Without the -4.3 stops of exposure compensation it would have been 4.3 stops brighter and blown out, just like yours. I only shoot RAW and always with Multi-metering and Auto-WB. I use the highlight warning blinkies to determine the highlight exposure and fine-tune exposure compensation (using the front dial with the EC dial in “C” mode) as needed for every to set the brightest important highlight detail just below blinking (usually that adjustment is very small, but here it was huge as, like in your case, the metering was trying to expose for the area around the light).

The Auto-WB usually works well for me (3 Fuji cameras), except in the woods where it consistently skews a bit cool (blue) and very magenta with all of them. I just fix the WB in post when that happens. A jpeg shooter would want to set a custom WB in the woods.
 
Thank you for your useful information. I will post maybe tomorrow night, take a sample in my light room. Making some kind test and share here especially for wb differences but show us shutter speed differences. In the outside day light not so much different but lightbox situation absolutely blue and magenta. After some experience i think i will use more effective.
 
Hi again dear Erik,

Here are my light box samples. Blue one is fuji. Fuji support is wonderful thank them for that and they will take care tomorrow said to me. But according the their calim and test it shouldnt be like that. They claim white is white according to their test in their light box. But it isnt the same for my work. Anyway, you can alsa see exif datas. Even more iso fuji needs more light. Some times canon needs only 1/1000 s.s but i took here 1/800 one. I wish to hear your commands. Thank you so much.

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Selpearl said:
Hi again dear Erik,

Here are my light box samples. Blue one is fuji. Fuji support is wonderful thank them for that and they will take care tomorrow said to me. But according the their calim and test it shouldnt be like that. They claim white is white according to their test in their light box. But it isnt the same for my work. Anyway, you can alsa see exif datas. Even more iso fuji needs more light. Some times canon needs only 1/1000 s.s but i took here 1/800 one. I wish to hear your commands. Thank you so much.

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Are these with Auto-WB? Can you post a link to the RAW file for the problem image? I can't get the full (any) EXIF from these. Make sure your Auto-WB SHIFT adjustment cursor is centered.

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Yes, exactly auto wb and dot centered. I didnt send wb details cause l checked and sure about it.

Both of them auto. I gonna try again and send raw.
 
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