Z50II/Z5II/Z500 - How many would buy one today?

I'm trying hard to resist the GAS guzzling Z8, but it is slightly larger than the D500, and I REALLY like the smaller ML bodies.

• Articulating screen
• Expeed7
• A few more MP's (33mp)
• Pop-up warm LED (fill/flash/focus-assist/constant/controller)
• A bit more button customization (Sony/Canon/Panasonic/etc.)

The more I chat with friend here and in the Canon/Sony forums, the more I see people who are looking for exactly this in the market. I've even tried the R7, R8, and A7IV. I want a Nikon. Especially if they made kit deal with the 26f2.8. Let's go Nikon!

The Z8 does about everything I can envision wanting to do. But since I am no longer working the economics don't pan out.

I really like both my Z5 and Z50. Currently Z5 gets used about 3x as much as the Z50 but the Z50 is the choice when I want something more compact.

I do have funds set aside for another body and a couple of lenses. The body would most likely be something like a Z6 IV (yes the generation after the III).

However a DX body that fits the parameters you listed would likely draw me sooner.

I still use my D7100 quite a bit. A Z equivalent to the D7500, with IBIS, 33MP, the better FX Z level (Z5,Z6, Z7) weather sealing, and priced around the same as the Canon R7 would probably get me to buy. I don't expect Nikon to make such a thing though.

Yes to all the referenced features. I would also like a faster standard zoom option for dx.

I would carefully compare this dx body to the Z6 and 24-70 f4 combination, but if the AF is good and the price is reasonable, I think I would stay dx because I appreciate portability.

First, not the Z5II -- I have no new for a third FF body.

For the DX bodies it depends on what it costs and does; $2500 for a "Z90" (e.g., Z50-size body, stacked DX sensor, black-out free EVF, IBIS, EXPEED 7, no 8K video needed, SD cards only okay) would probably happen . Anything less wouldn't be enough of an upgrade to bother with, at any price.

As I was thinking while shooting a big graduation with two Z6's and a D500 (with 70-200F4 to get a 300mm reach): How stupid is Nikon to not have put in a DX sensor in a Z6/Z7 body with IBIS. I would have picked one up immediately. Even a cheap consumer body with IBIS would have sold a lot. They would have had 3 models using the same body, at little cost to them and it wold have pleased all the users who like DX for telephoto reach.

I still love my D500 but I can't put my 70-200S on it, and as I use it less and less I forget that the viewfinder is not WYSIWYG and end up with some bad exposures.

skyrunr said:

I'm trying hard to resist the GAS guzzling Z8, but it is slightly larger than the D500, and I REALLY like the smaller ML bodies.

• Articulating screen
• Expeed7
• A few more MP's (33mp)
• Pop-up warm LED (fill/flash/focus-assist/constant/controller)
• A bit more button customization (Sony/Canon/Panasonic/etc.)

The more I chat with friend here and in the Canon/Sony forums, the more I see people who are looking for exactly this in the market. I've even tried the R7, R8, and A7IV. I want a Nikon. Especially if they made kit deal with the 26f2.8. Let's go Nikon!

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I wouldn't touch a Z50II or a Z5II. A D500 type camera in mirrorless would be a definite maybe. It would have to come with at least 33 MP or it would be of no use to me since I already have a Z9 and Z8. It also would have to have a really good AF system or I'd just use my Z9 or Z8.

Probably still not, but it would be a definite maybe.

For a z50ii I would be fine with the same number of mp, if the sensor has to change to better support the newer processor that's fine. For me there's very few things I want out of an upgrade from this camera

• Articulating screen: I dumped my rear into a river yesterday trying to see the composition, I've gotten ants in my shirt before getting low enough. If the update doesn't have an articulating screen, I don't think you can convince me to buy it.
• Updated af and interface.
• Vertical, or at least a dumb battery grip.
• USB-C port and all that jazz.
• Slightly larger evf.
• Physical +/-/disp buttons

If it had IBIS that'd be swell, but it's not pivotal. I'm probably missing a few things I've mentioned in the past.

I'm more likely to buy a Z 16-80 F4 than a new body, unless that body fixes the screen problem

I think I understand you are wanting DX? Anyway, that's my format across the board for ILC cameras. And I already have my ultimate Z DX camera and am perfectly satisfied. I doubt I will ever abandon my DSLR's, but that's a different story. But you do mention Z5 which is FF, so not sure where you are headed.

But for me right at this moment if I did not already have mine, I would immediately go to Nikon web site and order a refurb Zfc with 28mm lens for $863.95 with free shipping. Or if you prefer the 16-50 lens it's $799.

skyrunr said:

I'm trying hard to resist the GAS guzzling Z8, but it is slightly larger than the D500, and I REALLY like the smaller ML bodies.

• Articulating screen
• Expeed7
• A few more MP's (33mp)
• Pop-up warm LED (fill/flash/focus-assist/constant/controller)
• A bit more button customization (Sony/Canon/Panasonic/etc.)

The more I chat with friend here and in the Canon/Sony forums, the more I see people who are looking for exactly this in the market. I've even tried the R7, R8, and A7IV. I want a Nikon. Especially if they made kit deal with the 26f2.8. Let's go Nikon!

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I would go for a D500 replacement (Z50 II/Z5 II not so much). Maybe if they did a $1500 (or less) D500 replacement I'd consider it, but I also ordered the Z8 so probably not as likely now since the Z8 basically does what I need it to, and in crop mode, I'd get only 19MP but wouldn't have to buy another camera.

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Would definitely buy a Z500 but not if it's just the Z8/Z9 sensor chopped down to a 20mp APS-C sensor,would need at least 26-30mp.

I'm a huge fan of the 24-70F4S on the DX bodies. I just need better AF and all of the features of the Zfc/Z30 on the Z50, and expeed7.











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An Expeed7 Z6III with 33mp would work, would crop to a D500's resolution. With the other features mentioned I'd be all over that. I fear that it would be too close to a Z8 for Nikon to consider. They'd have to stifle (can't say crippple hammer here) it somehow. The competition is filling this gap, but not well enough, IMO; and not with z-glass.

I'd buy an FX and DX version. The best thing about my Z7II and Z50 combination was being comfortable carrying both. Z7II with the 24-120F4S and the Z50 with the 50-250DXVR.

skyrunr said:

I'm trying hard to resist the GAS guzzling Z8, but it is slightly larger than the D500, and I REALLY like the smaller ML bodies.

• Articulating screen
• Expeed7
• A few more MP's (33mp)
• Pop-up warm LED (fill/flash/focus-assist/constant/controller)
• A bit more button customization (Sony/Canon/Panasonic/etc.)

The more I chat with friend here and in the Canon/Sony forums, the more I see people who are looking for exactly this in the market. I've even tried the R7, R8, and A7IV. I want a Nikon. Especially if they made kit deal with the 26f2.8. Let's go Nikon!

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No, I'm happy with Z fc for small cam. Z fc ii maybe.

skyrunr said:

An Expeed7 Z6III with 33mp would work, would crop to a D500's resolution. With the other features mentioned I'd be all over that. I fear that it would be too close to a Z8 for Nikon to consider. They'd have to stifle (can't say crippple hammer here) it somehow. The competition is filling this gap, but not well enough, IMO; and not with z-glass.

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I think you'd need about 45MP in crop mode to get to the D500's resolution (which is the same as the Z50). You may even need 50MP to get a 20.9MP image (as i think the 45MP images from the Z7/Z8/Z9 result in 19.5MP when cropped).

I think though that 33MP may be pushing it for such a camera at that price point. More than likely I would think the Z6 III may stay with 24.5MP but be a stacked sensor based on the same tech as found in the Z8/Z9, just at a lower resolution). However, I also don't feel that Nikon would dump a bunch of money into a D500 replacement though and they may try to target something like a $1000 - $1200 price point but keep the resolution lower at 20-24MP and a single card slot still and perhaps no IBIS (if it was to be around $1000; if it's around $1400 then maybe they'll include IBIS). But I think it's pretty clear that Nikon is focusing more on the FF market at this point.

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Would potentially buy a Z50 if firmware was updated to include focus shift (as per Zfc and Z30).

Otherwise, I think sensor readout speed should be higher priority than beating Canon on megapixels.

Seems unlikely EXPEED7 would come to DX before it comes to Z6/Z7, but I am no camera business expert.

skyrunr said:

I'm trying hard to resist the GAS guzzling Z8, but it is slightly larger than the D500, and I REALLY like the smaller ML bodies.

• Articulating screen
• Expeed7
• A few more MP's (33mp)
• Pop-up warm LED (fill/flash/focus-assist/constant/controller)
• A bit more button customization (Sony/Canon/Panasonic/etc.)

The more I chat with friend here and in the Canon/Sony forums, the more I see people who are looking for exactly this in the market. I've even tried the R7, R8, and A7IV. I want a Nikon. Especially if they made kit deal with the 26f2.8. Let's go Nikon!

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4K120 would be nice but not a requirement certainly not 8K. RAW pre-burst option is a must for me to even consider it. Deep Buffer. Top Line EVF and LCD also. I am thinking that losing the Mech Shutter allows for more cost cutting in prices then some are assuming. Yes, I am assuming also.

Price would then definitely be in the $2000 range but anything over $2200, things tend to get a bit dicey for some. So if it's just some 20MP rehash of the same sensor with a processor upgrade, why should most folks even bother.

It has to be something that folks love Pairing with the forthcoming 200-600mm. Just like many love to pair the Canon R7 with their 100 500mm. Or the Sony with their 200-600mm. I don't want it in the body of a z6ii. Do a proper Pro Type Body. Just like they did with the D500. But it will be smaller then the D500, mostly.

I think the forthcoming Sony will be a underperformer based on current projections on specs. Only 26MP and not stacked. But still approaching $2000. So Nikon can build on their current Momentum and just Do It. The DL series of premium compact camera, the DL18-50 f/1.8-2.8, DL24-85 f/1.8-2.8, and DL24-500 f/2.8-5.6, should have Never been canceled. Refresh and bring that back to.

I did not buy the Z8. Dont want or need larger MPs or a larger camera.

I would buy a new Z6III and a new version of the z50 if its is a pro version like the D500 was to DSLR.

If they don't come soon this year I will buy back into Sony and once I start that I will not ever buy any more Nikons and make the full switch over.
If I sell all my Z bodys and lens I could have a very nice Sony setup for FF and DX with lens.

I had to check NO to this poll, any future mILC bodies I buy must have IBIS.

No interest in a FF Z5ii although I have some possible interest in a Z70/Z90 (i.e. D500 replacement; there won't be a Z500 name).

Definitely interested in a Z50ii as long as it has significanly improved AF, more MP, and IBIS.

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skyrunr said:

An Expeed7 Z6III with 33mp would work, would crop to a D500's resolution. With the other features mentioned I'd be all over that. I fear that it would be too close to a Z8 for Nikon to consider. They'd have to stifle (can't say crippple hammer here) it somehow. The competition is filling this gap, but not well enough, IMO; and not with z-glass.

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I think you'd need about 45MP in crop mode to get to the D500's resolution (which is the same as the Z50). You may even need 50MP to get a 20.9MP image (as i think the 45MP images from the Z7/Z8/Z9 result in 19.5MP when cropped).

I think though that 33MP may be pushing it for such a camera at that price point. More than likely I would think the Z6 III may stay with 24.5MP but be a stacked sensor based on the same tech as found in the Z8/Z9, just at a lower resolution). However, I also don't feel that Nikon would dump a bunch of money into a D500 replacement though and they may try to target something like a $1000 - $1200 price point but keep the resolution lower at 20-24MP and a single card slot still and perhaps no IBIS (if it was to be around $1000; if it's around $1400 then maybe they'll include IBIS). But I think it's pretty clear that Nikon is focusing more on the FF market at this point.

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Yeah, that's Nikon. Don't give me what I want, give me what you want me to have. It seems to work for you. I'm not hearing any serious rumors about a Z70-Z90 in the works. Just many folks expressing a desire for one. I'm thinking along the lines of the Canon R7 with features and price, rather than Z500, which would cost nearly another $1000 more. But, it really doesn't seem to grab the attention of Nikon, so we can all wish and hope and dream. Until Nikon gets on the same train, we're just sitting still in the station. :-|