Biggest camera flop of all time?

Just charged up the battery in my Mavica MVC-CD300with 6X zoom 3MP. It still works. And the disc in it is full of pictures my five year old daughter took many years ago when I gave it to her when I got better cameras. (She is 23 now)
 
But then it turned out no-one was going to buy a car without test driving it first. So it turned out to be a complete waste of money and it was abandoned.
That waste of money would no doubt result in increased prices of the cars.

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I am and have been an IT developer (retired now) but technology is being pushed into areas where it does not belong, particularly the crass assumption that everyone has a mobile 'phone, a decent signal and the skill to use the device.

In the UK it is getting harder and harder to pay for things with real money. Locally I can't buy a bus ticket on the bus except by 'phone or credit card. On a recent skiing holiday (Crystal Ski) traditional paper piste and resort maps were not issued - replaced by a 'phone "App" which was in only one language. Oh yes, night time -15°C, snowing, take one's gloves off, find one's reading glasses then try to operate the device. Ridiculous.

In my nearby town of Brighton where it is difficult to park, virtually all of the parking meters can't be used except by mobile 'phone. Problem is, the signal is poor.

I have to verify my identity to obtain one of my pensions. Paper based system recently replaced by ReadyID Android App which demands identity documents with a near field connectivity (NFC) chip. UK passports/driving licences etc. etc. do not have this.

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In 1989 I had an extensive OM kit, OM1, OM2, two OM4s MD1, Winder 2 and two MD2s. Not to mention a bag full of lenses. The common factor was batteries, 1989 was the year in which Olympus killed the OM system, they discontinued the M15V Control pack and charger. The M18V Control Grip remained but without the control packs the system was cumbersome at best. Obviously the MD1 and MD2 required power and a pistol grip wasn’t what users wanted. The cameras were available for quite a while afterwards but the system was broken. They tried to enter the AF market but what came out of the labs wasn’t an OM system camera. I ditched Olympus in 1990.

The OM101 and OM707 did Olympus no favours, the failure to support anything beyond camera bodies and lenses wasn’t a good idea either. What they did after 1990 was of no interest, I’d jumped ship. I thought that the OM system was the best available in the ‘80s, others will disagree, for whatever reason Olympus threw it away.
Not sure what you meant about that.

The OM1 used a PX 625 but could work without it (fully mechanical)

The other cameras needed a battery to work (S76 ) and the winder and motor drive used AA or Ni Cad pack for the MD.

( I had the OM2 and new bits demonstrated to me and another 3 or 4 dealers by Mr Maitani . My most memorable moment in the camera business)
I needed the MD or Winder for comfort, the OM1/2/4 being a little small. The MD1 or MD2 without the NiCd pack was useless. The AA battery grip did absolutely nothing useful unless you wanted a pistol grip or were prepared to use a cable to connect it to the motordrive but the vertical shutter button was on the NiCd pack and I wanted that.

With the MD2 and a NiCd pack the OM4 was brilliant in terms of size and convenience. However the Winder, powered by AA batteries, didn't have the vertical shutter button. Today pretty much every battery grip, except the original one for the Z6/7, has a vertical shutter release but that wasn't always the case.

With the M15V NiCd Control pack unavailable, and the ones I had on their last legs, I realised that the MD1 and MD2s would soon be worthless. I sold the lot and bought a Nikon F4s and a couple of lenses.

Effectively, for me, the OM system no longer had a motordrive.

The OM2n and OM 4 used two SR/LR44 cells for power. I think the OM1n was the same.
 
I never was interested in them at the time as I had plenty 35mm gear. These days I have a few of them. Very nice cameras actually. Just fine for 4x5 and 5x6.

The only bad thing really about them is if a roll got damaged in the camera somehow it would have to be taken apart. I had to retrieve a roll from a Canon IX. Easier than breaking into a DSLR, I can tell you that!
 
I never was interested in them at the time as I had plenty 35mm gear. These days I have a few of them. Very nice cameras actually. Just fine for 4x5 and 5x6.
I bought mine in my seemingly never ending quest for a "fast and light" alternative to larger format gear. The Pronea S and IX-Nikkors for APS were clearly built for a very low price point.

If you have a source for fresh APS film, please share it. I'm down to my last cartridge in my freezer.
 
I never was interested in them at the time as I had plenty 35mm gear. These days I have a few of them. Very nice cameras actually. Just fine for 4x5 and 5x6.
I bought mine in my seemingly never ending quest for a "fast and light" alternative to larger format gear. The Pronea S and IX-Nikkors for APS were clearly built for a very low price point.

If you have a source for fresh APS film, please share it. I'm down to my last cartridge in my freezer.
I bought about 20 rolls of frozen APS about five years ago, but looking on eBay I think all the stockists have run out now. Even then I used to shoot it a stop or so over box speed.
 
The Zeiss ZX1 has to rank up near the top.
 
The Zeiss ZX1 has to rank up near the top.
just the sort of camera some were asking for except that when it does come about ,nobody wants to buy it.

Anyway it depends on what is meant by "biggest".

If it is about hype , investment , both at the same time ?

Here is one that covers all bases for failure :

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A couple of peculiar points about the Nimslo . The first batch was made by Timex , the watch company, in Scotland. When they failed to deliver enough of them the contract went to Sunpak, the Japanese flash company.

I don't remember the initial retail price but stock was cleared out for a fraction of that.

Another HUGE flop was the Agfa Family system .

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an attempt by Agfa fo revive interest in Super 8.

I think it came out here in Australia, in 1980, for something like $699 only to be sold off later on for $199 or something like that.

Agfa made the projector in Germany and Elmo made the camera in Japan.

BTW, already mentioned, the product that nearly sent Polaroid bust was the Polavision system.

Instant Movies !

Sounded like a good idea but too expensive and too late.

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The camera and projector were made by Eumig in Austria.

The film was developed inside the projector the first time it was loaded onto it.

I sold all three systems above...
 
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Kodak was also sued by Polaroid for stealing the SX-70 system, and they had to buy-back all their Instant cameras.
Yeah, that was quite a big failure...
Probably forgotten was that Kodak made instant films for Polaroid for at least a 3 year period and that they made their own versions of the cameras and film for 10 years (1976-1986) .
It was my understanding that Polaroid 'paid' Kodak to develop their (SX-70) film.
Again, as with Minolta, I guess Kodak thought their version was sufficiently different to that made by Polaroid to avoid patent infringments.
Since Kodak was 'paid', (by Polaroid), I assume that also included Do-Not-Compete clauses sufficient to defeat any Kodak differences ???
 
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Since Kodak was 'paid', (by Polaroid), I assume that also included Do-Not-Compete clauses sufficient to defeat any Kodak differences ???
The court case lasted about 9 years so it was a bit more complicated than it may appear.
 
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Kodak Instant was a big success, or Polaroid wouldn’t have sued them for so much. Of course the $925M that Polaroid won in the largest patent settlement to that time ( https://petapixel.com/2012/10/05/polaroid-once-won-an-epic-courtroom-battle-with-kodak/ ) probably did make it a flop.

Although Kodak stopped making cameras, Fujifilm had a system modeled after Kodak Instant which they continued to sell and develop ( https://fujixweekly.com/2022/01/18/fujis-instant-film-the-immensely-interesting-story-of-instax/ ), becoming Instax. Polaroid went bankrupt and by far the biggest instant photography film (and probably the biggest photography product, period, in 2023) is a descendent of Kodak Instant (which is one reason why you can use it in old Kodak Instant cameras).
 
My other thought was whether you could wind your own from bulk film? 40 years ago I used to do that with 35mm film.
I still have bulk film loaders for both 35mm and 70mm film, but for APS you'd need to cut the film down and figure out some way to get it into the cartridge. That's well beyond my capabilities. Nor am I going to pay the asking price for expired film.

Sic transit gloria mundi.
 
My other thought was whether you could wind your own from bulk film? 40 years ago I used to do that with 35mm film.
I still have bulk film loaders for both 35mm and 70mm film, but for APS you'd need to cut the film down and figure out some way to get it into the cartridge. That's well beyond my capabilities. Nor am I going to pay the asking price for expired film.

Sic transit gloria mundi.
I'm not sure if bulk loading APS cartridges is even possible.

35mm spools were very easy to load..... a canister and two caps you could pop off. The APS cartridge is a much more complex thing. You might need to saw into it, and it might be impossible to put it back together. And that is assuming you could even find large reels of APS sized film to load from.

I think it is "well beyond everyone's capabilities."
 
Couldn't produce accurate colors without external filters. Not cheap, either.

I limited my choice to digital since, well, nothing compares to APS cameras.
 
Nor am I going to pay the asking price for expired film.
Agreed, neither would I. However, in 2006 I found a roll of Ilford FP4 120 film I had bought in 1976. I ran it through my Kowa 6x6 (also bought in 1976). Resulting pictures were perfect even though I had not kept the roll of film in a 'fridge.
 
I've got 3 rolls of Kodak 400 left. I bought several rolls a couple of years ago off Ebay when nobody wanted them. I actually prefer expired film because it's fun to see how it looks.

I have a lab nearby that can process/scan the rolls, however, their system isn't clean most of the times and I have to spot the scans to get rid of the dust!
 
Kodak did put a camera in every home with roll film, the 126 film cartridge and $12.99 X-15 cameras made it easy for anyone to afford/load film in the camera and opened camera usage to kids on up. Teenagers could have there own camera, with roll film cameras and the issue of loading and unloading roll film to deal with there was usually only 1 camera in the household. The 110 made the camera pocketable so teens/everyone could put it in their pocket, something 126 couldn't do.
 

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