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Seriously. I shoot Fujifilm now but used to shoot Canon APSC and would have stayed on board if they had a m/less camera that had both an EVF AND a silent shutter in the M series (they do not.)

Just been looking at the R10 and 18-45mm slow lens by random chance not because I want one or will leave Fujifilm.

Have to say I'd take an M5 or M50 any day over that....

Seems like a step backwards the M range was small, light, good IQ and had some cool lenses like the 22mm F2 and 32mm f1.4... the nice 11-22mm, add maybe a 56mm F1.4....

They should have kept the M line going and kept bringing out new dedicated APSC lenses!

The R10 is both ugly and huge!

Just my 2p
 
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LDJS Photography said:
They should have kept the M line going and kept bringing out new dedicated APSC lenses!
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Like Sony and Nikon, it made economic sense for Canon to have one mount for both APS-C and FF.

Canon's best selling M was the M50. The R50 is significantly better, and about the same size.



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justmeMN said:
LDJS Photography said:
They should have kept the M line going and kept bringing out new dedicated APSC lenses!
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Like Sony and Nikon, it made economic sense for Canon to have one mount for both APS-C and FF.

Canon's best selling M was the M50. The R50 is significantly better, and about the same size.

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The M's just look better and more stylish to me :)
 
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justmeMN said:
LDJS Photography said:
They should have kept the M line going and kept bringing out new dedicated APSC lenses!
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Like Sony and Nikon, it made economic sense for Canon to have one mount for both APS-C and FF.

Canon's best selling M was the M50. The R50 is significantly better, and about the same size.

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The M's just look better and more stylish to me :)
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IOW, you think Canon has gone insane because they made a new camera, and you don't like the looks of it?
 
As someone who owns the Sony NEX I have frequently wondered if Sony will ever come come out with something that small ever again. Everything Sony has come out with since then has been a lot thicker
 
People with taste buy Fujifilm, the rest just buy Canon.

Half of the buyers have been doing that for the last 21 years.

Maybe we don't all have the same taste, what do you think ?
 
SecondTimeAround said:
FrancoD said:
justmeMN said:
FrancoD said:
People with taste buy Fujifilm, the rest just buy Canon.

Half of the buyers have been doing that for the last 21 years.
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No, Fujifilm has a 6% market share.
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Clearer now ?
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Sure, you're saying 94% of us have no taste.
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I was pointing out that we don't all have the same taste so the camera that the OP finds objectionable will probably be dearly loved by others.

(BTW, I don't use Canon)
 
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LDJS Photography said:
Have to say I'd take an M5 or M50 any day over that....

Seems like a step backwards the M range was small, light, good IQ and had some cool lenses like the 22mm F2 and 32mm f1.4... the nice 11-22mm, add maybe a 56mm F1.4....

They should have kept the M line going and kept bringing out new dedicated APSC lenses!

The R10 is both ugly and huge!

Just my 2p
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These dim shortened lenses are a big red flag, otherwise I would say "they will get there" as they are expected to port most of the M lenses onto RF systems. But something smells fishy indeed. And prices are way up too. Sad times for the M "legacy/lineage"
 
I don't think they'll return to the smaller battery. I have an A6400 and the NEX6 but liked a bit deeper grip so could have liked an A6600 and it's convenient to have a battery fitting both sensor sizes. Although they are overdue updating a stills-oriented aps-c (not that anything these days won't be decently video capable, too.), I'd hope they'll stick to the smaller size A6xxx size (or both - but doubt that's likely either).
 
justmeMN said:
FrancoD said:
People with taste buy Fujifilm, the rest just buy Canon.

Half of the buyers have been doing that for the last 21 years.
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No, Fujifilm has a 6% market share.
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He says "taste", I say hipster. As a total in the general population, 6% sounds about right.
 
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SecondTimeAround said:
FrancoD said:
justmeMN said:
FrancoD said:
People with taste buy Fujifilm, the rest just buy Canon.

Half of the buyers have been doing that for the last 21 years.
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No, Fujifilm has a 6% market share.
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Clearer now ?
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Sure, you're saying 94% of us have no taste.
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And the rest mostly buy Leica stuff, so where exactly does that leave Fujifilm? Truth be told, the only place I see Fujifilm gear is on the internet.
 
While Canon and Nikon did have the 7D and Nikon the D500, they never really made high-quality APS-C focused lenses. They make more money overall by focusing on FF lenses. Will always be that way.

Sony FE started out APS-C only, and I started buying into that system. They had some awesome cameras. Then they announced they were moving to focus on FF and that APS-C was more-or-less their consumer line and have let their APS-C line wither.
 
LDJS Photography said:
The R10 is both ugly and huge!

Just my 2p
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I think you must be the first person that I've seen refer to the R10 as large. But I love small cameras so I understand. For me it's really perfect size. Any smaller and either the buttons start getting too close together or they have to remove buttons.

I was always intrigued by the M50, but there were enough drawbacks to make it a nonstarter for me. The R10 addressed every single one of those drawbacks and more. The R10 is what I wished the M50 had been.

Also, I'm in the group who likes blobby curvy camera bodies :)
 
LDJS Photography said:
Seriously. I shoot Fujifilm now but used to shoot Canon APSC and would have stayed on board if they had a m/less camera that had both an EVF AND a silent shutter in the M series (they do not.)

Just been looking at the R10 and 18-45mm slow lens by random chance not because I want one or will leave Fujifilm.

Have to say I'd take an M5 or M50 any day over that....

Seems like a step backwards the M range was small, light, good IQ and had some cool lenses like the 22mm F2 and 32mm f1.4... the nice 11-22mm, add maybe a 56mm F1.4....

They should have kept the M line going and kept bringing out new dedicated APSC lenses!
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That's trying, at least for a while, to have 4 different mount systems with their own lenses. M and R mirrorless and ff and aps-c dslr systems, which aren't fully cross compatible.
LDJS Photography said:
The R10 is both ugly and huge!

Just my 2p
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Outside of Fuji, it seems that Sony, Nikon and Canon would like to wean off the aps-c users who like the smaller, lighter and less expensive product lines and shove them into the larger and higher priced ff world.
 
Craig Gillette said:
Outside of Fuji, it seems that Sony, Nikon and Canon would like to wean off the aps-c users who like the smaller, lighter and less expensive product lines and shove them into the larger and higher priced ff world.
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Not gonna happen/over my corpse... 💪😂
 
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