Definitive answer given to why DPR is closing

I guess anyone on a salary associated with DPR is protecting their severance package by their silence.
Why would anyone in their right mind disclose their personal business with forum masses.
+1

It always amazes me that some people think they are entitled to have free access to a facility that is paid for by someone else.
 
I guess anyone on a salary associated with DPR is protecting their severance package by their silence.
Why would anyone in their right mind disclose their personal business with forum masses.
The only strange thing is those thanking DPR staff for staying to the end. Unless one already has a far better Job already secured, one always stays to the end to collect any benefits. Nobody would expect DPR staff to reveal any of their benefits of staying to the end. Nor anyone else for that matter at any Job.

Why DPR is closing isn't necessarily a personal thing as much as it is protecting one's benefits. So yes, mfinley is correct in that context. So we may never know the real reason. Heck, even the DPR staff might not know. Companies don't tell their workers, everything. They rarely have.
 
I believe I have read Jeff Bezos is really big into what can be directly measured.
Do you all really think Jeff Bezos personally made this decision, or even knows this site exists? He spends more a year on waxing his boat than this site costs, and he has no idea what he spends on waxing a boat.
People are just looking for someone or something to blame. That's not solving anything.

It is great to see that some are taking the initiative to launch their own sites/forums. Bravo and I wish them well.

Let me bring this back to photography. If you're in photography as a business, you learn fast "what's hot and what's not" and "when to get in and when to get out". We are slowly coming out of a historic global pandemic. Those were not great years for photography or camera makers. it's going to take years for people and companies to financially recover.

If people want to blame anything, blame business reality. The photo market is imploding. "Why" has been discussed to death. That's not "taking action" to change course. In this case there's little point to a big site for a small audience.
 
I guess anyone on a salary associated with DPR is protecting their severance package by their silence.
Why would anyone in their right mind disclose their personal business with forum masses.
Absolutely. That is personal & private business between the company and individual, and yes with severance packages they are very commonly under an agreement not to discuss the terms with the repercussion that it will be forfeit. I can't believe anyone would even question someone not discussing that. Unbelievable.
 
But those thousands of photographers using cell phones are just as real as the ones using dedicated cameras.
Cell phone users, and the P&S crowd they replaced, were never a big audience here.
but I'm pretty sure that a lot of folks came around when looking for a p&S camera, decided what they wanted, bought and never came back.

Pretty much the ideal audience for Amazon

In fact, the case could be made that the move from P&S to phones was what killed DPR and not the flagship and enthusiasts cameras.

I noted a while ago that while new cameras were reviewed, the phone tab above led to old useless information.

Just look at the phones by maker. Pull up Motorola and the last phone shown is from 2015. From Samsung it's 2020.

Anyone looking to compare camera specs on a phone is out of luck here.
 
I think no one else wanted to buy the website because they didn't see a way to profit from it. Amazon had the unique incentive of running it to help promote their own sales through links to their product pages. No one else has that motive.
I could see Amazon shutting down DPR rather than selling it off because they feared a rival retailer might pick it up and use it to drive business.
 
My sense is it's just an Amazon cut back, though how much can site cost them vs what they're getting from sales due to clicking on the Amazon link here. But the other thing that bothers me is that not one employee has said in any version, that I know of, HELP SAVE DPREVIEW!!!
I have my doubts that DPR closing has anything to do with their layoffs of warehouse workers.

They are closing an entire enterprise (DPR) not laying off staff from DPR, which would be an expected cost-cutting action if they valued DPR and didn't want to close it down.
 
My sense is it's just an Amazon cut back, though how much can site cost them vs what they're getting from sales due to clicking on the Amazon link here. But the other thing that bothers me is that not one employee has said in any version, that I know of, HELP SAVE DPREVIEW!!!
You don't burn your bridges.
 
My sense is it's just an Amazon cut back, though how much can site cost them vs what they're getting from sales due to clicking on the Amazon link here. But the other thing that bothers me is that not one employee has said in any version, that I know of, HELP SAVE DPREVIEW!!!
You don't burn your bridges.
Don't see the connection
 
I know this sounds like an absurd question when you think about it, but has there actually been a definitive answer given to why DPR is closing?
I thought it was obvious to anyone with a reasonable understanding of business economics.

I will not explain because if it isn't obvious to you, you are most unlikely to understand my explanation.
Then please give it in laymans terms.
The $$$ earned by dpreview is less than the $$$ spent on it.

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My sense is it's just an Amazon cut back, though how much can site cost them vs what they're getting from sales due to clicking on the Amazon link here. But the other thing that bothers me is that not one employee has said in any version, that I know of, HELP SAVE DPREVIEW!!!
You don't burn your bridges.
Don't see the connection
As a soon to be former employee of Amazon/DPReview, you are in a hunt for a job probably in a very similar line of work, maybe even working with or for some of your former coworkers. Going out kicking and screaming from this job will do you no favors in getting your next. They know it will not be saved, they know the numbers, and there is zero benefit in making a spectacle of it. Its not professional, this is 101 level stuff.
 
I think no one else wanted to buy the website because they didn't see a way to profit from it. Amazon had the unique incentive of running it to help promote their own sales through links to their product pages. No one else has that motive.
I could see Amazon shutting down DPR rather than selling it off because they feared a rival retailer might pick it up and use it to drive business.
Perhaps so, but which rival retailer do you suppose that could be?

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Walmart sells more than Amazon, but they probably don't sell more cameras. And they have the advantage of having 5,000 retail stores plus a website, while Amazon is basically just an online retailer.

What about the others? Now remember, even B&H ,the largest camera retailer in the world sells less than half a billion dollars in goods. And some of those goods are computers and TVs, and things that DPReview cannot help them sell like Pro Audio and Pro Video gear.

If Amazon cannot see a benefit from maintaining this website I don't see how any of their much smaller competitors can.



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My sense is it's just an Amazon cut back, though how much can site cost them vs what they're getting from sales due to clicking on the Amazon link here. But the other thing that bothers me is that not one employee has said in any version, that I know of, HELP SAVE DPREVIEW!!!
Isn't it too late for that?

And how do you help save them? Do you take up a collection, or something?
 
We just didn't click-and-buy as much as Amazon hoped we would.
 
My sense is it's just an Amazon cut back, though how much can site cost them vs what they're getting from sales due to clicking on the Amazon link here. But the other thing that bothers me is that not one employee has said in any version, that I know of, HELP SAVE DPREVIEW!!!
You don't burn your bridges.
Don't see the connection
As a soon to be former employee of Amazon/DPReview, you are in a hunt for a job probably in a very similar line of work, maybe even working with or for some of your former coworkers. Going out kicking and screaming from this job will do you no favors in getting your next. They know it will not be saved, they know the numbers, and there is zero benefit in making a spectacle of it. Its not professional, this is 101 level stuff.
Kicking and screaming? Where the hell did you get that? I am speaking of a possible effort to keep DPR up and running. End of story

Be well

Rick
 
My sense is it's just an Amazon cut back, though how much can site cost them vs what they're getting from sales due to clicking on the Amazon link here. But the other thing that bothers me is that not one employee has said in any version, that I know of, HELP SAVE DPREVIEW!!!
You don't burn your bridges.
Don't see the connection
As a soon to be former employee of Amazon/DPReview, you are in a hunt for a job probably in a very similar line of work, maybe even working with or for some of your former coworkers. Going out kicking and screaming from this job will do you no favors in getting your next. They know it will not be saved, they know the numbers, and there is zero benefit in making a spectacle of it. Its not professional, this is 101 level stuff.
Kicking and screaming? Where the hell did you get that? I am speaking of a possible effort to keep DPR up and running. End of story

Be well

Rick
I dunno, all caps, bold, underlined and three exclamation points maybe? LOL.
 
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My sense is it's just an Amazon cut back, though how much can site cost them vs what they're getting from sales due to clicking on the Amazon link here. But the other thing that bothers me is that not one employee has said in any version, that I know of, HELP SAVE DPREVIEW!!!
You don't burn your bridges.
Don't see the connection
As a soon to be former employee of Amazon/DPReview, you are in a hunt for a job probably in a very similar line of work, maybe even working with or for some of your former coworkers. Going out kicking and screaming from this job will do you no favors in getting your next. They know it will not be saved, they know the numbers, and there is zero benefit in making a spectacle of it. Its not professional, this is 101 level stuff.
Kicking and screaming? Where the hell did you get that? I am speaking of a possible effort to keep DPR up and running. End of story

Be well

Rick
I dunno, all caps, bold, underlined and three exclamation points maybe? LOL.
Yeah you're missing the point.LOL
 

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