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jackwelch
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Amazing how dpreview has 7 million visitors but it only takes 1 person to shut down the site.
What a clown world we are living in.
What a clown world we are living in.
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Mackiesback
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That and it is often coming from people ill qualified to judge anything.
Mackiesback
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Far from one person. Where does this even come from?
They are waiting for amateur photography to die out and for professional and scientific photography to be so discredited in the public mind by extremely photorealistic AI generated illustrations before they uncloak their invasion fleets.
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BGD300V1
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If you get comments on your image it's up to you to decide whether it has merit.
That doesn't mean that my opinion on your image has any merit.
Here's an example.
I posted this image on another forum.
It was taken on a misty morning at a local pond. I got a comment that I should have brightened it and cloned out the water drop.
I accept that that is what the commentor would have done if it was his image. To me though, the blur of the wing and the drop of water falling behind enhanced the feeling of movement and the brightness reflected the actual day. I did brighten it to see what I thought.
It is brighter but I don't like it as much. Should I re-enter competing I would still present the original for judgement.
If you want some sort of qualifications to be stated, I've entered a lot of international salons. I've stopped entering but the PSA rates me as EPSA and a 5 star exhibitor in a couple of classes. I've also judged contests at the local and state level.
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I'm a photographer, Jim, not a graphic artist!
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Mackiesback
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The way you presented it was perfect. The comment you received is exactly why I never post an image here. I did post one ages ago of a cathedral here during blue hour and the colors just popped. I got a comment that I should have cloned out a mailbox in a lower corner of the image. Its like someone has been tasked to come up with the nitpickiest thing ever to say, and dang it, that is what they must do. Complete waste of time, I don't suffer fools gladly.If you get comments on your image it's up to you to decide whether it has merit.
That doesn't mean that my opinion on your image has any merit.
Here's an example.
I posted this image on another forum.
It was taken on a misty morning at a local pond. I got a comment that I should have brightened it and cloned out the water drop.
I accept that that is what the commentor would have done if it was his image. To me though, the blur of the wing and the drop of water falling behind enhanced the feeling of movement and the brightness reflected the actual day. I did brighten it to see what I thought.
It is brighter but I don't like it as much. Should I re-enter competing I would still present the original for judgement.
If you want some sort of qualifications to be stated, I've entered a lot of international salons. I've stopped entering but the PSA rates me as EPSA and a 5 star exhibitor in a couple of classes. I've also judged contests at the local and state level.
ThrillaMozilla
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Nothing is ever perfect. I don't know how the comment was presented, but a good way to take it would be as a suggestion of something to consider.
Some members are mentally out to lunch, and they seem to have some boxes to check. But sometimes they're right. That's why you posted.
I hear you, though. I have to admit that that's one reason I don't post my good stuff here, or much of anything, really.
Credentials, by the way, are not necessarily very meaningful. The comments really need to stand on their own.
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Kodakrevisited
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Critique here is worthless, I discovered that as I have sold hundreds of photographs for tourist brochures and postcards, adverts for holiday cottages etc., when posted here they were almost always dismissed and sneered at, when posted on tourist sites they actually made people want to visit and had great appeal, some sold time and time again yet the "experts" here claimed they were garbage......I just laugh
BGD300V1
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I don't have a problem with a comment from anybody on my images. They often do show me something I can do with an image that I hadn't considered. I accept it as a learning experience.The way you presented it was perfect. The comment you received is exactly why I never post an image here. I did post one ages ago of a cathedral here during blue hour and the colors just popped. I got a comment that I should have cloned out a mailbox in a lower corner of the image. Its like someone has been tasked to come up with the nitpickiest thing ever to say, and dang it, that is what they must do. Complete waste of time, I don't suffer fools gladly.If you get comments on your image it's up to you to decide whether it has merit.
That doesn't mean that my opinion on your image has any merit.
Here's an example.
I posted this image on another forum.
It was taken on a misty morning at a local pond. I got a comment that I should have brightened it and cloned out the water drop.
I accept that that is what the commentor would have done if it was his image. To me though, the blur of the wing and the drop of water falling behind enhanced the feeling of movement and the brightness reflected the actual day. I did brighten it to see what I thought.
It is brighter but I don't like it as much. Should I re-enter competing I would still present the original for judgement.
If you want some sort of qualifications to be stated, I've entered a lot of international salons. I've stopped entering but the PSA rates me as EPSA and a 5 star exhibitor in a couple of classes. I've also judged contests at the local and state level.
What I think I am creating and what they might think I was trying to convey are both part of each of our individual aesthetic. Freedom of speech doesn't require anyone else to listen.
Here's another little anecdote.
I belonged to a local group that put images up in public places. Free decor for offices, restaurants, etc. which had prices on them. A tiny little lady wanted to buy an image I had of a Monarch Butterfly on milkweed. BUT, she said she wasn't tall enough to hang it where she wanted to put it and asked if I would deliver and hang it for her. It was on a wall over a table with a lamp on it.
After I hung it and put the lamp back. She smiled and said "Perfect, I've been looking for something that would complement the colors of that lamp for months."
As the old saying goes "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
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BGD300V1
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I don't think any critique is ever worthless. Sometimes it just tells you how much the judge is worth.
ThrillaMozilla
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Could it be that the suggestions have different criteria in mind than you do? After all, most of those commercial pictures eventually wind up in the garbage, and your paycheck gets spent.
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Sorry very sad that an ego is so fragile you blame others for your fright
A well-formed human being accepts that opinions are going to be varied and those opinions if you're confident in yourself are a reflection upon them, not you.
Sitting in a dark basement scared to interact with the rest of humanity in fear they will not like the shoes you are wearing is no way to live and it is letting others control you.
The real reason someone doesn't post a photograph is not for fear or a fool but for fear of rejection.
Even on a masterpiece a single brush stroke would rarely harm it, it's up to you as the creator to simply nod and smile at a suggestion or to follow it. The suggestion cannot physically harm you.
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Mackiesback
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LOL....fright. Good one. I don't post images here for critique, its usually chiming in on something gear related, yet it still gets critiqued.
I give you credit for a fertile imagination though. I can't think of anything lower on my "fright" list than rejection from you on one of my images.
This is the part of DPR I will not miss.
I'm sure for the rest of DPR the feeling is mutual.
techjedi
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The value generated by the site is less than the cost it takes to run it.
I believe, after acquisition, they tried to monetize the site in a number of ways with ads and sponsored posts, but most people complained about all of that and used blockers and avoided those things, so its just a money pit that they don't feel like supporting anymore.
Dallas Dahms
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If a company like Amazon can't monetise an audience the size of DPReview's, then I have to hazard a guess that the entire business model here is wrong.
JohnSil
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Keit ll wrote: "Come on, if it was that simple then why not state it?"
Come on, they're NOT gonna state it. As soon as they give a reason the lawsuits would start flying by employees saying they've been wrongfully terminated A reason would give a definitive legal target to fight in court as "wrongful"! To soften the blow and win the terminated over they give a generous severance, that's how it's done.
So they do it under the guise of restructure. Restructure is never wrong because it's only a philosophy!!! It's also a convenient way to get rid of a bunch of bad apples you just want to unload. Drastic but legal.
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Keeping this to current events, I suspect that Musk stepped in to help DPReview using the same "genius" business techniques that he is using with Twitter.
DPReview might only be saved with a "blue check mark" that you can only get with a subscription that allows you to hide the "blue check mark". Each monthly payment guarantees you a month of 420 jokes that aren't funny and tags to keep his cars from FSD crashing into you.
DPReview might only be saved with a "blue check mark" that you can only get with a subscription that allows you to hide the "blue check mark". Each monthly payment guarantees you a month of 420 jokes that aren't funny and tags to keep his cars from FSD crashing into you.
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Why would anyone in their right mind disclose their personal business with forum masses.
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