GM-5 - Plan for 3 primes: 15 / 20 or 25 / 45

  1. I’m cba_melbourne wrote:
If you do go with 3 small primes, I recommend the Think Tank Mirrorless Mover 10 bag. It’s the perfect size for this setup.
Waaay too big for a GM5.
it’s the perfect size for a GM5, three primes, spare battery and compact filter kit.

I tried many, many bags before settling on the MM10.

If I was in the same country as my GM5 kit, I would post a photo to illustrate this.

I also own the smaller Mirrorless Mover 5, which I use with my RX100 VIi. This bag is too small for a GM5 and 3 lenses.
A waist/fanny bag like the Lowepro m-trekker HP120 can comfortably hold two GM5 cameras each with lens attached, plus the extra lens and spare batteries etc.
Well yes, but the HP120 is much bigger than the MM10.

S

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The 15 is my all-time M4/3 favorite. You can't go wrong there.
 
Hello

For my newish 2nd hand GM-5, plan to get these 3 primes all 2nd hand:
  • Leica 15mm f/1.7 (for the aperture ring and apparently nice colours and contrast) .. (not the Olympus 17mm f/1.7 apparently not so sharp)
  • Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 or Olympus 25mm f/1.8 .. (not the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 too big)
  • Olympus 45mm f/1.8
Good choices?!?
I wouldn’t pick them. 15mm, 20/25mm and 45mm are too close together for my taste. Too much head scratching trying to decide which to use and too much lens swapping. I’ve carried similar sets and hated it. Once I ditched the 25mm I was happier.

All you need are two. 15mm and Panasonic 42.5mm f1.7. There’s enough of a gap between them that it’s obvious when you want to swap lenses. You learn to see with each lens in mind. When they’re too close together it’s less fluid, less intuitive.

The 42.5mm is a better lens than the Oly 45mm f1.8. Sharper, nicer color and rendering.

Think about adding a 75mm for more reach and more flexibility.

That would be my 3 lens kit. In fact, it IS my three lens kit, more or less.
Trying to find a balance IQ / Price while selecting only very smal lenses .. GM-5 obliges.
That’s it! 😃
45 f/1.8 bought, Next 15 f/1.7, then 25 f/1.8 and later 75 f/1.8
 
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Hello

For my newish 2nd hand GM-5, plan to get these 3 primes all 2nd hand:
  • Leica 15mm f/1.7 (for the aperture ring and apparently nice colours and contrast) .. (not the Olympus 17mm f/1.7 apparently not so sharp)
  • Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 or Olympus 25mm f/1.8 .. (not the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 too big)
  • Olympus 45mm f/1.8
Good choices?!?

Trying to find a balance IQ / Price while selecting only very smal lenses .. GM-5 obliges..

Thx

Gaul
Too late for Olympus 45mm f/1.8

45 already bought 2nd hand but still w. Plastic wrap on lens

Good price

And M4/3 is in my case a 2nd system

For serious portraits or indoors, I have my Canon 6D and my terrific EF 135 F2 .. ❤️

On my GM-5, the Olympus being very small and still good IQ should be decent enough.. I hope

Thx all

Gaul
I gave up on my EF mount dslr bodies years ago and kept my 135/2.0 among others.

The all work nicely electronically adapted to M4/3 even though the largest are more suited to larger M4/3 bodies the 135/2.0 plays well with a Metabones Ultra (FR) on a GM5 camera body.

The Olympus 45/1.8 is indeed an excellent lens in its own right and you will not notice any lack of stabilisation any more than you noticed it with the 6D and EF 135/2.0

On the other hand one might worry just why the relatively older marketed 45/1.8 was still unused. But I suppose that I have many lenses that simply don't have enough time to use much.

The GM5 is going to exhibit its best characteristics (like all cameras) with the application of significant lens horsepower such as the Panasonic Nocticron 42.5/1.2

Just as much as your EF 135/2.0 can make the 6D truly shine.
 
Hello

For my newish 2nd hand GM-5, plan to get these 3 primes all 2nd hand:
  • Leica 15mm f/1.7 (for the aperture ring and apparently nice colours and contrast) .. (not the Olympus 17mm f/1.7 apparently not so sharp)
  • Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 or Olympus 25mm f/1.8 .. (not the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 too big)
  • Olympus 45mm f/1.8
Good choices?!?

Trying to find a balance IQ / Price while selecting only very smal lenses .. GM-5 obliges..

Thx

Gaul
Too late for Olympus 45mm f/1.8

45 already bought 2nd hand but still w. Plastic wrap on lens

Good price

And M4/3 is in my case a 2nd system

For serious portraits or indoors, I have my Canon 6D and my terrific EF 135 F2 .. ❤️

On my GM-5, the Olympus being very small and still good IQ should be decent enough.. I hope

Thx all

Gaul
I gave up on my EF mount dslr bodies years ago and kept my 135/2.0 among others.

The all work nicely electronically adapted to M4/3 even though the largest are more suited to larger M4/3 bodies the 135/2.0 plays well with a Metabones Ultra (FR) on a GM5 camera body.

The Olympus 45/1.8 is indeed an excellent lens in its own right and you will not notice any lack of stabilisation any more than you noticed it with the 6D and EF 135/2.0

On the other hand one might worry just why the relatively older marketed 45/1.8 was still unused. But I suppose that I have many lenses that simply don't have enough time to use much.

The GM5 is going to exhibit its best characteristics (like all cameras) with the application of significant lens horsepower such as the Panasonic Nocticron 42.5/1.2

Just as much as your EF 135/2.0 can make the 6D truly shine.
Thx Tom

45 f/1.8 bought, next will be 15 f/1.7, then 25 f/1.8 and later 75 f/1.8

And yes, maybe at some point I will get a faster aperture portrait lens like the 42.5 f/1.2 .. that’s why I got only the 45 f/1.8 and not the Pana 45 f/1.7

Thx

Gaul
For response - these are all very satisfactory lenses and will make great images - you are on the right track and are being well advised.

For all that we carry on about new lenses and analyse their aberrations to death the most popular ones are the affordable ones that make excellent images for our purposes anyway.

Buying more exotic lenses is a journey towards the nth degree of perfection at rapidly increasing cost and weight. You add noticeable weight and physical size with a considerable increase in cost just to get a 42.5/1.2 lens that is just a little bit better. Arguably it might not be worth this for the amount of extra capability.

Just how much extra will we pay to get that little bit of extra help?

Of course good photography needs the presence of at least two of three things. One is not enough but we mostly get by with two. If we get all three things right then we are likely to have a prize winner.

1) Good gear

2) Learned or natural photographic ability

3) A good photographic opportunity

But then of course everyone is entitled to some lucky shots.

These days most photographic gear from established reputable vendors is quite good enough. It is up to us to learn skills including good composition. Maybe we have to go find the opportunity or simply make it happen?
 
Hello

For my newish 2nd hand GM-5, plan to get these 3 primes all 2nd hand:
  • Leica 15mm f/1.7 (for the aperture ring and apparently nice colours and contrast) .. (not the Olympus 17mm f/1.7 apparently not so sharp)
  • Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 or Olympus 25mm f/1.8 .. (not the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 too big)
  • Olympus 45mm f/1.8
Good choices?!?
I wouldn’t pick them. 15mm, 20/25mm and 45mm are too close together for my taste. Too much head scratching trying to decide which to use and too much lens swapping. I’ve carried similar sets and hated it. Once I ditched the 25mm I was happier.

All you need are two. 15mm and Panasonic 42.5mm f1.7. There’s enough of a gap between them that it’s obvious when you want to swap lenses. You learn to see with each lens in mind. When they’re too close together it’s less fluid, less intuitive.

The 42.5mm is a better lens than the Oly 45mm f1.8. Sharper, nicer color and rendering.

Think about adding a 75mm for more reach and more flexibility.

That would be my 3 lens kit. In fact, it IS my three lens kit, more or less.
Trying to find a balance IQ / Price while selecting only very smal lenses .. GM-5 obliges.
That’s it! 😃
45 f/1.8 bought, Next 15 f/1.7, then 25 f/1.8 and later 75 f/1.8
Sounds good!

The Oly 25mm f1.8 is better than the Panny 25mm f1.7.
 
Hello

For my newish 2nd hand GM-5, plan to get these 3 primes all 2nd hand:
  • Leica 15mm f/1.7 (for the aperture ring and apparently nice colours and contrast) .. (not the Olympus 17mm f/1.7 apparently not so sharp)
  • Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 or Olympus 25mm f/1.8 .. (not the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 too big)
  • Olympus 45mm f/1.8
Good choices?!?

Trying to find a balance IQ / Price while selecting only very smal lenses .. GM-5 obliges..

Thx

Gaul
Too late for Olympus 45mm f/1.8

45 already bought 2nd hand but still w. Plastic wrap on lens

Good price

And M4/3 is in my case a 2nd system

For serious portraits or indoors, I have my Canon 6D and my terrific EF 135 F2 .. ❤️

On my GM-5, the Olympus being very small and still good IQ should be decent enough.. I hope

Thx all

Gaul
I gave up on my EF mount dslr bodies years ago and kept my 135/2.0 among others.

The all work nicely electronically adapted to M4/3 even though the largest are more suited to larger M4/3 bodies the 135/2.0 plays well with a Metabones Ultra (FR) on a GM5 camera body.

The Olympus 45/1.8 is indeed an excellent lens in its own right and you will not notice any lack of stabilisation any more than you noticed it with the 6D and EF 135/2.0

On the other hand one might worry just why the relatively older marketed 45/1.8 was still unused. But I suppose that I have many lenses that simply don't have enough time to use much.

The GM5 is going to exhibit its best characteristics (like all cameras) with the application of significant lens horsepower such as the Panasonic Nocticron 42.5/1.2

Just as much as your EF 135/2.0 can make the 6D truly shine.
Thx Tom

45 f/1.8 bought, next will be 15 f/1.7, then 25 f/1.8 and later 75 f/1.8

And yes, maybe at some point I will get a faster aperture portrait lens like the 42.5 f/1.2 .. that’s why I got only the 45 f/1.8 and not the Pana 45 f/1.7

Thx

Gaul
For response - these are all very satisfactory lenses and will make great images - you are on the right track and are being well advised.

For all that we carry on about new lenses and analyse their aberrations to death the most popular ones are the affordable ones that make excellent images for our purposes anyway.

Buying more exotic lenses is a journey towards the nth degree of perfection at rapidly increasing cost and weight. You add noticeable weight and physical size with a considerable increase in cost just to get a 42.5/1.2 lens that is just a little bit better. Arguably it might not be worth this for the amount of extra capability.

Just how much extra will we pay to get that little bit of extra help?

Of course good photography needs the presence of at least two of three things. One is not enough but we mostly get by with two. If we get all three things right then we are likely to have a prize winner.

1) Good gear

2) Learned or natural photographic ability

3) A good photographic opportunity

But then of course everyone is entitled to some lucky shots.

These days most photographic gear from established reputable vendors is quite good enough. It is up to us to learn skills including good composition. Maybe we have to go find the opportunity or simply make it happen?
 
The 9/1.7 is a very good lens but seems to have created a reputation for being 'small'. In fact whilst it is quite light it is not that small. Not truly small like the types that Laowa make.
 
I know OP has already started assembling his kit but this is a fun exercise in general. I'd probably go Laowa 10/2 or Oly 12/2, Pana 20/1.4 or PL25/1.4, and Pana 42.5/1.7 or Sigma 56/1.4... As you see I'm hedging bets on all three, if I wanted to go as small as possible I'd go with the wider/smaller option in all 3 instances, and if I had more interest in shooting live subjects I'd go with the latter options which are still reasonably small but have some key advantages and more flattering FLs for that.

Out of all those the only one I've not personally shot with is the 10/2 but I've shot that FL a lot on another system and just really like my 20/35/75 equivalent combo over there (with a smaller set of 24/45 alternatives), so that's what I'd mimic if starting from scratch on M4/3. All that being said, I love my Oly 75/1.8, it's my most used lens on my GX850, and you can pry it from my cold dead hands.

In fact I've kept the 12/2 & 20/1.7 mostly in case I wanna assemble a small kit around the 42.5/1.7 & 75/1.8 again (and for video on an E-M5 III in the case of the 12/2), otherwise I'm hardly using those two wides in favor of my FF kit or simply my phone.
 
The 9/1.7 is a very good lens but seems to have created a reputation for being 'small'. In fact whilst it is quite light it is not that small. Not truly small like the types that Laowa make.
Heh, I think the difference between a lens like that (closer to the PL25 or even a 56/1.4) and some of the smaller system primes on M4/3 (and elsewhere) is lost on a great many people.
It’s only 130g and should pair nicely with the GM5.

I find most lenses smaller and lighter than the the 25/1.4 work well with the GM5.

S
Sometimes it seems like a ton of people think anything between 2-3" long is about the same amount of bulk and anything under that is pointlessly small...

I most definitely don't agree with that mind you, it's just a mindset I encounter a lot within and outside M4/3. I've got a couple E mount lenses just because they're as small or smaller than the PL9, while most of my other stuff is larger, and I see people question their value as the time. Idk why the average ILC user seemingly cares so little about about bulk, but it is what it is.
 
The 9/1.7 is a very good lens but seems to have created a reputation for being 'small'. In fact whilst it is quite light it is not that small. Not truly small like the types that Laowa make.
Heh, I think the difference between a lens like that (closer to the PL25 or even a 56/1.4) and some of the smaller system primes on M4/3 (and elsewhere) is lost on a great many people.
It’s only 130g and should pair nicely with the GM5.

I find most lenses smaller and lighter than the the 25/1.4 work well with the GM5.

S
Oh I'd never argue against that, heck I use the 75/1.8 on bodies that small and it's larger and >2x the weight. Smaller lenses do make a difference in how easy they're to pack in really tiny bags, but yeah on the body I have a pretty decent tolerance for a variety of stuff despite the small body size. Still clutching (literally) to my Franiec grip.
 
Hello

For my newish 2nd hand GM-5, plan to get these 3 primes all 2nd hand:
  • Leica 15mm f/1.7 (for the aperture ring and apparently nice colours and contrast) .. (not the Olympus 17mm f/1.7 apparently not so sharp)
  • Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 or Olympus 25mm f/1.8 .. (not the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 too big)
  • Olympus 45mm f/1.8
Good choices?!?
I wouldn’t pick them. 15mm, 20/25mm and 45mm are too close together for my taste. Too much head scratching trying to decide which to use and too much lens swapping. I’ve carried similar sets and hated it. Once I ditched the 25mm I was happier.

All you need are two. 15mm and Panasonic 42.5mm f1.7. There’s enough of a gap between them that it’s obvious when you want to swap lenses. You learn to see with each lens in mind. When they’re too close together it’s less fluid, less intuitive.

The 42.5mm is a better lens than the Oly 45mm f1.8. Sharper, nicer color and rendering.

Think about adding a 75mm for more reach and more flexibility.

That would be my 3 lens kit. In fact, it IS my three lens kit, more or less.
Trying to find a balance IQ / Price while selecting only very smal lenses .. GM-5 obliges.
That’s it! 😃
45 f/1.8 bought, Next 15 f/1.7, then 25 f/1.8 and later 75 f/1.8
If you want to spare some money, I suggest to read this post. You may replace the 75 f1.8 with a much cheaper solution.
 
Hello

For my newish 2nd hand GM-5, plan to get these 3 primes all 2nd hand:
  • Leica 15mm f/1.7 (for the aperture ring and apparently nice colours and contrast) .. (not the Olympus 17mm f/1.7 apparently not so sharp)
  • Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 or Olympus 25mm f/1.8 .. (not the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 too big)
  • Olympus 45mm f/1.8
Good choices?!?
I wouldn’t pick them. 15mm, 20/25mm and 45mm are too close together for my taste. Too much head scratching trying to decide which to use and too much lens swapping. I’ve carried similar sets and hated it. Once I ditched the 25mm I was happier.

All you need are two. 15mm and Panasonic 42.5mm f1.7. There’s enough of a gap between them that it’s obvious when you want to swap lenses. You learn to see with each lens in mind. When they’re too close together it’s less fluid, less intuitive.

The 42.5mm is a better lens than the Oly 45mm f1.8. Sharper, nicer color and rendering.

Think about adding a 75mm for more reach and more flexibility.

That would be my 3 lens kit. In fact, it IS my three lens kit, more or less.
Trying to find a balance IQ / Price while selecting only very smal lenses .. GM-5 obliges.
That’s it! 😃
45 f/1.8 bought, Next 15 f/1.7, then 25 f/1.8 and later 75 f/1.8
If you want to spare some money, I suggest to read this post. You may replace the 75 f1.8 with a much cheaper solution.
 
Hello

For my newish 2nd hand GM-5, plan to get these 3 primes all 2nd hand:
  • Leica 15mm f/1.7 (for the aperture ring and apparently nice colours and contrast) .. (not the Olympus 17mm f/1.7 apparently not so sharp)
  • Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 or Olympus 25mm f/1.8 .. (not the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 too big)
  • Olympus 45mm f/1.8
Good choices?!?
I wouldn’t pick them. 15mm, 20/25mm and 45mm are too close together for my taste. Too much head scratching trying to decide which to use and too much lens swapping. I’ve carried similar sets and hated it. Once I ditched the 25mm I was happier.

All you need are two. 15mm and Panasonic 42.5mm f1.7. There’s enough of a gap between them that it’s obvious when you want to swap lenses. You learn to see with each lens in mind. When they’re too close together it’s less fluid, less intuitive.

The 42.5mm is a better lens than the Oly 45mm f1.8. Sharper, nicer color and rendering.

Think about adding a 75mm for more reach and more flexibility.

That would be my 3 lens kit. In fact, it IS my three lens kit, more or less.
Trying to find a balance IQ / Price while selecting only very smal lenses .. GM-5 obliges.
That’s it! 😃
45 f/1.8 bought, Next 15 f/1.7, then 25 f/1.8 and later 75 f/1.8
If you want to spare some money, I suggest to read this post. You may replace the 75 f1.8 with a much cheaper solution.
Thx Loga 🙏

Very tempting indeed .. especially as I already have a dedicated portrait lens in FF (Canon EF 135 F2 L) which I love and cannot justify for now to spend too much on what is for me a 2nd system

Also your solution provides the same 135mm equivalent that I enjoy very much

Thx again

Gaul
You're welcome, Gaul! If you choose this Oly A200 converter lens, please be aware that I wrote a wrong info in my post about the step up / step down ring for it. It needs a 37mm-> 49mm step-up ring, as someone replied here .
 
Hello

For my newish 2nd hand GM-5, plan to get these 3 primes all 2nd hand:
  • Leica 15mm f/1.7 (for the aperture ring and apparently nice colours and contrast) .. (not the Olympus 17mm f/1.7 apparently not so sharp)
  • Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 or Olympus 25mm f/1.8 .. (not the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 too big)
  • Olympus 45mm f/1.8
Good choices?!?

Trying to find a balance IQ / Price while selecting only very smal lenses .. GM-5 obliges..

Thx

Gaul




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Hello

For my newish 2nd hand GM-5, plan to get these 3 primes all 2nd hand:
  • Leica 15mm f/1.7 (for the aperture ring and apparently nice colours and contrast) .. (not the Olympus 17mm f/1.7 apparently not so sharp)
  • Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 or Olympus 25mm f/1.8 .. (not the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 too big)
  • Olympus 45mm f/1.8
Good choices?!?

Trying to find a balance IQ / Price while selecting only very smal lenses .. GM-5 obliges..

Thx

Gaul
GM-5 - Also have a 12-32 tiny zoom (all 2nd hand but like new)

Olympus 45mm advertised as « like new »

true that.. still with the blue plastic protection

Chuffed

Gaul

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Hello

For my newish 2nd hand GM-5, plan to get these 3 primes all 2nd hand:
  • Leica 15mm f/1.7 (for the aperture ring and apparently nice colours and contrast) .. (not the Olympus 17mm f/1.7 apparently not so sharp)
  • Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 or Olympus 25mm f/1.8 .. (not the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 too big)
  • Olympus 45mm f/1.8
Good choices?!?

Trying to find a balance IQ / Price while selecting only very smal lenses .. GM-5 obliges..

Thx

Gaul
GM-5 - Also have a 12-32 tiny zoom (all 2nd hand but like new)

Olympus 45mm advertised as « like new »

true that.. still with the blue plastic protection

Chuffed

Gaul

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Hello 👋

Update - 15mm f/1.7 on its way .. 25mm f/1.8 and 45mm f/1.8 found for cheap as new

Bought a 2nd GM5 too;) 😅

thank you all

Gaul
 
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