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I have never seen any statistics of all medium format analog cameras so I looked at EBAY to get an idea:

Camera......Pages at ebay

Hasselblad............20

Bronica....................9

Zenza Bronica........8

Bronica 6x7............1

Bronica 6x6............4

Bronica 6X4½.........3

Pentax 6x7..............9

Pentax 67..............10

Pentax 645..............4

Pentax 645N...........3

Mamiya..................60

Fujifilm...................14

So what do you say...as expected or not?
 
More info from ebay:

Camera............Pages

Mamiya 6x4½.......16

Mamiya 6x9............2

Fujifilm 6x9.............4

Fujifilm 6x8.............1

Fujifilm 6x7.............1

Fujifilm 6x6.............1

Rolleiflex.................2
 
Born1948 said:
I have never seen any statistics of all medium format analog cameras so I looked at EBAY to get an idea:

Camera......Pages at ebay

Hasselblad............20

Bronica....................9

Zenza Bronica........8

Bronica 6x7............1

Bronica 6x6............4

Bronica 6X4½.........3

Pentax 6x7..............9

Pentax 67..............10

Pentax 645..............4

Pentax 645N...........3

Mamiya..................60

Fujifilm...................14

So what do you say...as expected or not?
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I'd say the following:

Firstly just looking on ebay, whilst I accept it's a large marketplace, is not necessarily representative of where owners might want to sell such gear. How about KEH, Japanese markets etc.

Secondly why do you separate out the various Zenza Bronica cameras and not the others. Please don't say due to different formats as that could equally be applied to Mamiya.

If you didn't it would read as follows:

Mamiya.............60

Zenza Bronica........25

Hasselblad.........20

Pentax..........19

Fuji.........14

EDIT: I wrote this before I saw your second post.
 
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Overrank said:
For comparison this is 3 months of Nikon *sold* on UK EBay - https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66734517

Three months sold Pentax (35mm) - https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66735515

In comparison there were 24 film Hasselblad’s sold in three months, 106 Bronicas
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Some data for Bronica GS-1

Bronica GS-1 - Camera-wiki.org - The free camera encyclopedia

camera-wiki.org camera-wiki.org

Numbers of leaf shutters=numbers of lenses.

Far from Nidec Copal 100 000 shutters/year!
 
I apologize for being so dense, but I don't understand what you're measuring.

Is it 60 items/page or 120 or 240?

And when I put in Rolleiflex, I got 9 pages @ 240/page. Now, some of these are for parts (lens shades, etc). but most are the standard models.

So, what am I missing in these calculations? thanks!
 
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Bags27 said:
I apologize for being so dense, but I don't understand what you're measuring.

Is it 60 items/page or 120 or 240?

And when I put in Rolleiflex, I got 9 pages @ 240/page. Now, some of these are for parts (lens shades, etc). but most are the standard models.

So, what am I missing in these calculations? thanks!
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You ask me I guess?

Ebay.com

Parts could be very interesting. The problem with for example KEH.com is you seldom get complete cameras
 
Born1948 said:
Bags27 said:
I apologize for being so dense, but I don't understand what you're measuring.

Is it 60 items/page or 120 or 240?

And when I put in Rolleiflex, I got 9 pages @ 240/page. Now, some of these are for parts (lens shades, etc). but most are the standard models.

So, what am I missing in these calculations? thanks!
Click to expand...
You ask me I guess?

Ebay.com

Parts could be very interesting. The problem with for example KEH.com is you seldom get complete cameras
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Rolleiflex now 1 page:

www.ebay.com

Rolleiflex Medium Format Film Cameras for sale | eBay

Get the best deals on Rolleiflex Medium Format Film Cameras when you shop the largest online selection at eBay.com. Free shipping on many items | Browse your favorite brands | affordable prices.
www.ebay.com
 
Born1948 said:
Born1948 said:
Bags27 said:
I apologize for being so dense, but I don't understand what you're measuring.

Is it 60 items/page or 120 or 240?

And when I put in Rolleiflex, I got 9 pages @ 240/page. Now, some of these are for parts (lens shades, etc). but most are the standard models.

So, what am I missing in these calculations? thanks!
Click to expand...
You ask me I guess?

Ebay.com

Parts could be very interesting. The problem with for example KEH.com is you seldom get complete cameras
Click to expand...
Rolleiflex now 1 page:

https://www.ebay.com/b/Rolleiflex-Medium-Format-Film-Cameras/15230/bn_5576982
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How many cameras have sold though ? that’s the interesting statistic - on UK eBay there’s 100 Hasselblad’s listed but only ~8 sell a month. It really needs to be in number of cameras, “pages” depends on your device (on a phone or tablet you don’t get pages).
 
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Born1948 said:
Overrank said:
For comparison this is 3 months of Nikon *sold* on UK EBay - https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66734517

Three months sold Pentax (35mm) - https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66735515

In comparison there were 24 film Hasselblad’s sold in three months, 106 Bronicas
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Some data for Bronica GS-1

http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Bronica_GS-1

Numbers of leaf shutters=numbers of lenses.

Far from Nidec Copal 100 000 shutters/year!
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Not sure what the relevance is of the Copal shutters ? That was wrt a new Pentax camera, for which the results were gathered. But yes, it was Copal focal plane shutters for 35mm SLRs, nothing to do with medium format.
 
Overrank said:
Born1948 said:
Born1948 said:
Bags27 said:
I apologize for being so dense, but I don't understand what you're measuring.

Is it 60 items/page or 120 or 240?

And when I put in Rolleiflex, I got 9 pages @ 240/page. Now, some of these are for parts (lens shades, etc). but most are the standard models.

So, what am I missing in these calculations? thanks!
Click to expand...
You ask me I guess?

Ebay.com

Parts could be very interesting. The problem with for example KEH.com is you seldom get complete cameras
Click to expand...
Rolleiflex now 1 page:

https://www.ebay.com/b/Rolleiflex-Medium-Format-Film-Cameras/15230/bn_5576982
Click to expand...
How many cameras have sold though ? that’s the interesting statistic - on UK eBay there’s 100 Hasselblad’s listed but only ~8 sell a month. It really needs to be in number of cameras, “pages” depends on your device (on a phone or tablet you don’t get pages).
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You can dig very deep in this but I will not.

Interesting that they sell so many Bronicas in UK. They are seldom seen in Sweden even if they were low budget compared to Hasselblad. One other thing in Sweden: For Hasselblad you can still get some service. For Bronica most likely not....
 
Born1948 said:
Bags27 said:
I apologize for being so dense, but I don't understand what you're measuring.

Is it 60 items/page or 120 or 240?

And when I put in Rolleiflex, I got 9 pages @ 240/page. Now, some of these are for parts (lens shades, etc). but most are the standard models.

So, what am I missing in these calculations? thanks!
Click to expand...
You ask me I guess?

Ebay.com

Parts could be very interesting. The problem with for example KEH.com is you seldom get complete cameras
Click to expand...
On an Ebay search you can have 60/120 or 240 entries per page (you chose at the boyyom of the page)

The default is 60.

So what was asked was : did you have the 60 entry per page or 120 or 240 ?

If it is still not clear:

Hasselblad 20 pages (x 60/x 120/x 240 ?)

(BTW, I am sure I kow the answer but that was the question)
 
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I got 9 pages of 240/page for Rolleiflex.

It'd be interesting if we could know for sure. But you can enter differently worded prompts into ebay and get entirely differently numbers.

When I just entered Rolleiflex white face f/3.5, I got 6; for Rolleiflex white face f/2.8 I got 10. But when I entered Rollieflex white face without specifying aperature, I got a combined 36.
 
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FrancoD said:
Born1948 said:
Bags27 said:
I apologize for being so dense, but I don't understand what you're measuring.

Is it 60 items/page or 120 or 240?

And when I put in Rolleiflex, I got 9 pages @ 240/page. Now, some of these are for parts (lens shades, etc). but most are the standard models.

So, what am I missing in these calculations? thanks!
Click to expand...
You ask me I guess?

Ebay.com

Parts could be very interesting. The problem with for example KEH.com is you seldom get complete cameras
Click to expand...
On an Ebay search you can have 60/120 or 240 entries per page (you chose at the boyyom of the page)

The default is 60.

So what was asked was : did you have the 60 entry per page or 120 or 240 ?

If it is still not clear:

Hasselblad 20 pages (x 60/x 120/x 240 ?)

(BTW, I am sure I kow the answer but that was the question)
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The default for me is 48 (a 4K screen in Win 8.1). I can't see any alternatives!

Why is this so important?
 
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Born1948 said:
FrancoD said:
Born1948 said:
Bags27 said:
I apologize for being so dense, but I don't understand what you're measuring.

Is it 60 items/page or 120 or 240?

And when I put in Rolleiflex, I got 9 pages @ 240/page. Now, some of these are for parts (lens shades, etc). but most are the standard models.

So, what am I missing in these calculations? thanks!
Click to expand...
You ask me I guess?

Ebay.com

Parts could be very interesting. The problem with for example KEH.com is you seldom get complete cameras
Click to expand...
On an Ebay search you can have 60/120 or 240 entries per page (you chose at the boyyom of the page)

The default is 60.

So what was asked was : did you have the 60 entry per page or 120 or 240 ?

If it is still not clear:

Hasselblad 20 pages (x 60/x 120/x 240 ?)

(BTW, I am sure I kow the answer but that was the question)
Click to expand...
The default for me is 48 (a 4K screen in Win 8.1). I can't see any alternatives!

Why is this so important?
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Because number of pages is meaningless without the number of items per page. It’s like saying ‘my car is good on fuel because it gets 1000km to a tank’, without saying how big the tank is…
 
tassienick said:
Born1948 said:
FrancoD said:
Born1948 said:
Bags27 said:
I apologize for being so dense, but I don't understand what you're measuring.

Is it 60 items/page or 120 or 240?

And when I put in Rolleiflex, I got 9 pages @ 240/page. Now, some of these are for parts (lens shades, etc). but most are the standard models.

So, what am I missing in these calculations? thanks!
Click to expand...
You ask me I guess?

Ebay.com

Parts could be very interesting. The problem with for example KEH.com is you seldom get complete cameras
Click to expand...
On an Ebay search you can have 60/120 or 240 entries per page (you chose at the boyyom of the page)

The default is 60.

So what was asked was : did you have the 60 entry per page or 120 or 240 ?

If it is still not clear:

Hasselblad 20 pages (x 60/x 120/x 240 ?)

(BTW, I am sure I kow the answer but that was the question)
Click to expand...
The default for me is 48 (a 4K screen in Win 8.1). I can't see any alternatives!

Why is this so important?
Click to expand...
Because number of pages is meaningless without the number of items per page. It’s like saying ‘my car is good on fuel because it gets 1000km to a tank’, without saying how big the tank is…
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My question was about statistics for medium format cameras. Pages give us an idea about pro cameras. Mamiya was number one in numbers. Pages is good enough for this info. The complete picture we will never get with all medium format box and foldables mostly in low budget like Voigtländer, Kodak, Agfa (but some in high budget))
 
Born1948 said:
My question was about statistics for medium format cameras. Pages give us an idea about pro cameras. Mamiya was number one in numbers. Pages is good enough for this info. The complete picture we will never get with all medium format box and foldables mostly in low budget like Voigtländer, Kodak, Agfa (but some in high budget))
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With system cameras though you could get an unusually high or low count - for example is a Hasselblad counted as if it’s just a body, or a body and film back, or only if it’s got a lens attached. if you’re just searching for Hasselblad in the film cameras section and not looking at what each one is then you might pick up finders or lens shades too. In which case this might slant towards the cameras with lots of accessories rather than just cameras themselves.

You also need to specify which eBay - different countries have their own localized eBay. I don’t think Sweden has its own so I’m guessing you mean US eBay ? I did a count for *sold* Mamiya’s on UK eBay and it was ~250, so two and a half times as many as Bronica. But Mamiya did MF cameras in many different areas - light rangefinders, big studio cameras, TLRs, etc so its a bit of comparing apples to oranges
 
Overrank said:
Born1948 said:
My question was about statistics for medium format cameras. Pages give us an idea about pro cameras. Mamiya was number one in numbers. Pages is good enough for this info. The complete picture we will never get with all medium format box and foldables mostly in low budget like Voigtländer, Kodak, Agfa (but some in high budget))
Click to expand...
With system cameras though you could get an unusually high or low count - for example is a Hasselblad counted as if it’s just a body, or a body and film back, or only if it’s got a lens attached. if you’re just searching for Hasselblad in the film cameras section and not looking at what each one is then you might pick up finders or lens shades too. In which case this might slant towards the cameras with lots of accessories rather than just cameras themselves.

You also need to specify which eBay - different countries have their own localized eBay. I don’t think Sweden has its own so I’m guessing you mean US eBay ? I did a count for *sold* Mamiya’s on UK eBay and it was ~250, so two and a half times as many as Bronica. But Mamiya did MF cameras in many different areas - light rangefinders, big studio cameras, TLRs, etc so its a bit of comparing apples to oranges
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I have given a link regarding Rolleiflex so you can see.

Anyone can dig deeper if they are interested enough!

Relleiflex is strange to me. I do remember all Roleiflex & Rolleicord back in -50 and -60. Are they all broken like 90% of them?
 
Born1948 said:
Overrank said:
Born1948 said:
My question was about statistics for medium format cameras. Pages give us an idea about pro cameras. Mamiya was number one in numbers. Pages is good enough for this info. The complete picture we will never get with all medium format box and foldables mostly in low budget like Voigtländer, Kodak, Agfa (but some in high budget))
Click to expand...
With system cameras though you could get an unusually high or low count - for example is a Hasselblad counted as if it’s just a body, or a body and film back, or only if it’s got a lens attached. if you’re just searching for Hasselblad in the film cameras section and not looking at what each one is then you might pick up finders or lens shades too. In which case this might slant towards the cameras with lots of accessories rather than just cameras themselves.

You also need to specify which eBay - different countries have their own localized eBay. I don’t think Sweden has its own so I’m guessing you mean US eBay ? I did a count for *sold* Mamiya’s on UK eBay and it was ~250, so two and a half times as many as Bronica. But Mamiya did MF cameras in many different areas - light rangefinders, big studio cameras, TLRs, etc so its a bit of comparing apples to oranges
Click to expand...
I have given a link regarding Rolleiflex so you can see.

Anyone can dig deeper if they are interested enough!

Relleiflex is strange to me. I do remember all Roleiflex & Rolleicord back in -50 and -60. Are they all broken like 90% of them?
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UK:

www.ebay.co.uk

Medium Format Film Cameras for sale | eBay UK

Buy Medium Format Film Cameras and get the best deals at the lowest prices on eBay UK! Great Savings & Free Delivery / Collection on many items
www.ebay.co.uk

166 items
 
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