P1000: Kingfishers episode 57: Little Wooden Bridge III

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

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No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

Booted Cat said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

Booted Cat said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

Booted Cat said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

Fujiuseruk said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

Fujiuseruk said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.) Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

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I have three , two 1tb ( one usb2 so needs external power ) and a 2 tb usb3 drive and all still running fine as only used as mass storage units .

Fujiuseruk said:

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

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I download , back up then reformat in camera . It’s just good housekeeping.
Any extra special images are also printed and backed up to the cloud.

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Thanks, that might have been my issue, I have a mix of usb2 and usb3 ports (and one usb3.1 port) and perhaps that other external drive needed a usb3 port and I put it in the usb2 port. I shall try with that again. It's a 2 TB and I also have a 2 TB 5400 rpm internal drive sitting in the closet I don't use-- I was worried that its slower speed would be a problem, but I guess not?

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

OutsideTheMatrix said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

Click to expand...

not true at all . Reformatting simply ignores any faulty sectors so it appears as if you’re loosing memory space but it’s just saving you going through a needless recovery later down the line .
The memory card failure have suffered from is plastic casing becoming brittle with age .

OutsideTheMatrix said:

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Click to expand...

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

OutsideTheMatrix said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Click to expand...

HDDs above 2GB are often only 5400RPM. An internal 5400RPM HDD will still be way faster than an external HDD due to the USB power problem we discussed above.

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room

Click to expand...

Man, you live on Long Island and can't afford a 4TB internal or external mechanical hard drive?

Booted Cat said:

for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even

Click to expand...

A USB 3.0 card reader will do it fast and is cheap.

Booted Cat said:

use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

I have a bunch of them but none of them work properly. I have 2 that I have never actually even used (one external one internal.) One is 5400 rpm and the other is an external that wont power up. I shall try it in a different usb port. I have a mix of usb2, 3 and 3.1 ports.

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

Fujiuseruk said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

Fujiuseruk said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

Fujiuseruk said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

Click to expand...

not true at all . Reformatting simply ignores any faulty sectors so it appears as if you’re loosing memory space but it’s just saving you going through a needless recovery later down the line .
The memory card failure have suffered from is plastic casing becoming brittle with age .

Fujiuseruk said:

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

How long do these cards typically last at or near full capacity?

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room

Click to expand...

Man, you live on Long Island and can't afford a 4TB internal or external mechanical hard drive?

OutsideTheMatrix said:

for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even

Click to expand...

A USB 3.0 card reader will do it fast and is cheap.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

I have a bunch of them but none of them work properly. I have 2 that I have never actually even used (one external one internal.) One is 5400 rpm and the other is an external that wont power up. I shall try it in a different usb port. I have a mix of usb2, 3 and 3.1 ports.

Click to expand...

USB power supply is a big problem with external HDDs. External SSDs are the future. Save your money and only buy external SSDs from now on. They're fast too: 1050MB/s read using NVME tech is a minimum now.

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

Booted Cat said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

Booted Cat said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

Booted Cat said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Click to expand...

HDDs above 2GB are often only 5400RPM. An internal 5400RPM HDD will still be way faster than an external HDD due to the USB power problem we discussed above.

Click to expand...

Thanks I'll use that then. I also have an external 2 TB with that power problem but I am reading now that I should try a different usb port? Did yours work when you switched ports? I have a mix of usb2,3 and 3.1 on this computer. So by putting those two drives in I will have 4 TB more space to work with!

I also only keep the operating system on the 500 GB SSD but now I can offload some of the programs and pictures on the other internal hard drive I have right now to the new ones. I'll go from having 2 hard drives to 4 (3 internal 1 external if it works properly in a different USB port.)

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room

Click to expand...

Man, you live on Long Island and can't afford a 4TB internal or external mechanical hard drive?

Booted Cat said:

for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even

Click to expand...

A USB 3.0 card reader will do it fast and is cheap.

Booted Cat said:

use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

I have a bunch of them but none of them work properly. I have 2 that I have never actually even used (one external one internal.) One is 5400 rpm and the other is an external that wont power up. I shall try it in a different usb port. I have a mix of usb2, 3 and 3.1 ports.

Click to expand...

USB power supply is a big problem with external HDDs. External SSDs are the future. Save your money and only buy external SSDs from now on. They're fast too: 1050MB/s read using NVME tech is a minimum now.

Click to expand...

How do the NVMe external hard drives connect to the computer? I have one but it is internal a Samsung 980 m.2 NVMe 500 GB for Windows.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

OutsideTheMatrix said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Click to expand...

HDDs above 2GB are often only 5400RPM. An internal 5400RPM HDD will still be way faster than an external HDD due to the USB power problem we discussed above.

Click to expand...

Thanks I'll use that then. I also have an external 2 TB with that power problem but I am reading now that I should try a different usb port? Did yours work when you switched

Click to expand...

Last time when I tried to backup all my photos from my internal 1TB Samsung SSD to my external 4TB Seagate HDD, the HDD was copying very slow and I initially thought it went bad... So I canceled the copying, let Windows check the HDD for errors, and also viewed SMART information. There was no error or bad sector. I tried copying again. The copying speed was normal initially and then went very low but after a while went back to normal and even high. So it's all about the electricity your computer gives to that USB port at a given time. In the future, just buy portable SSDs only.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

ports? I have a mix of usb2,3 and 3.1 on this computer. So by putting those two drives in I will have 4 TB more space to work with!

I also only keep the operating system on the 500 GB SSD but now I can offload some of the programs and pictures on the other internal hard drive I have right now to the new ones. I'll go from having 2 hard drives to 4 (3 internal 1 external if it works properly in a different USB port.)

Click to expand...

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

OutsideTheMatrix said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

Click to expand...

not true at all . Reformatting simply ignores any faulty sectors so it appears as if you’re loosing memory space but it’s just saving you going through a needless recovery later down the line .
The memory card failure have suffered from is plastic casing becoming brittle with age .

OutsideTheMatrix said:

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

How long do these cards typically last at or near full capacity?

Click to expand...

don’t know as I don’t measure them and I don’t fill them up either . I replace them periodically as I’ve needed better performance for 4K video .

For what they cost I don’t even worry about them .

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

Booted Cat said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

Booted Cat said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

Booted Cat said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Click to expand...

HDDs above 2GB are often only 5400RPM. An internal 5400RPM HDD will still be way faster than an external HDD due to the USB power problem we discussed above.

Click to expand...

Thanks I'll use that then. I also have an external 2 TB with that power problem but I am reading now that I should try a different usb port? Did yours work when you switched

Click to expand...

Last time when I tried to backup all my photos from my internal 1TB Samsung SSD to my external 4TB Seagate HDD, the HDD was copying very slow and I initially thought it went bad... So I canceled the copying, let Windows check the HDD for errors, and also viewed SMART information. There was no error or bad sector. I tried copying again. The copying speed was normal initially and then went very low but after a while went back to normal and even high. So it's all about the electricity your computer gives to that USB port at a given time. In the future, just buy portable SSDs only.

Booted Cat said:

ports? I have a mix of usb2,3 and 3.1 on this computer. So by putting those two drives in I will have 4 TB more space to work with!

I also only keep the operating system on the 500 GB SSD but now I can offload some of the programs and pictures on the other internal hard drive I have right now to the new ones. I'll go from having 2 hard drives to 4 (3 internal 1 external if it works properly in a different USB port.)

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

Thanks that is exactly what happened to me! I don't know if I have the proper connectors for portable SSD but this is the motherboard I have:

Asus Rog Strix x470-F Gaming

It has lots of connectors.

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

Fujiuseruk said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

Fujiuseruk said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

Fujiuseruk said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

Click to expand...

not true at all . Reformatting simply ignores any faulty sectors so it appears as if you’re loosing memory space but it’s just saving you going through a needless recovery later down the line .
The memory card failure have suffered from is plastic casing becoming brittle with age .

Fujiuseruk said:

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

How long do these cards typically last at or near full capacity?

Click to expand...

don’t know as I don’t measure them and I don’t fill them up either . I replace them periodically as I’ve needed better performance for 4K video .

For what they cost I don’t even worry about them .

Click to expand...

I think I need to do that too, I have Sandisk looks like Class 10 or UHS-I read speed 45 mb/s write speed 20 mb/s

--
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.
-Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room

Click to expand...

Man, you live on Long Island and can't afford a 4TB internal or external mechanical hard drive?

OutsideTheMatrix said:

for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even

Click to expand...

A USB 3.0 card reader will do it fast and is cheap.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

I have a bunch of them but none of them work properly. I have 2 that I have never actually even used (one external one internal.) One is 5400 rpm and the other is an external that wont power up. I shall try it in a different usb port. I have a mix of usb2, 3 and 3.1 ports.

Click to expand...

USB power supply is a big problem with external HDDs. External SSDs are the future. Save your money and only buy external SSDs from now on. They're fast too: 1050MB/s read using NVME tech is a minimum now.

Click to expand...

How do the NVMe external hard drives connect to the computer? I have one but it is internal a Samsung 980 m.2 NVMe 500 GB for Windows.

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Via a USB-C port (or a USB-C to USB-A 3.0 adapter). SanDisk sells 1050MB/s portable SSDs only slightly more expensive than 550MB/s ones.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

OutsideTheMatrix said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Click to expand...

HDDs above 2GB are often only 5400RPM. An internal 5400RPM HDD will still be way faster than an external HDD due to the USB power problem we discussed above.

Click to expand...

Thanks I'll use that then. I also have an external 2 TB with that power problem but I am reading now that I should try a different usb port? Did yours work when you switched

Click to expand...

Last time when I tried to backup all my photos from my internal 1TB Samsung SSD to my external 4TB Seagate HDD, the HDD was copying very slow and I initially thought it went bad... So I canceled the copying, let Windows check the HDD for errors, and also viewed SMART information. There was no error or bad sector. I tried copying again. The copying speed was normal initially and then went very low but after a while went back to normal and even high. So it's all about the electricity your computer gives to that USB port at a given time. In the future, just buy portable SSDs only.

OutsideTheMatrix said:

ports? I have a mix of usb2,3 and 3.1 on this computer. So by putting those two drives in I will have 4 TB more space to work with!

I also only keep the operating system on the 500 GB SSD but now I can offload some of the programs and pictures on the other internal hard drive I have right now to the new ones. I'll go from having 2 hard drives to 4 (3 internal 1 external if it works properly in a different USB port.)

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

Thanks that is exactly what happened to me! I don't know if I have the proper connectors for portable SSD but this is the motherboard I have:

Asus Rog Strix x470-F Gaming

It has lots of connectors.

Click to expand...

A modern portable SSD communicates with your computer via a USB-C port or a USB-C to USB-A adapter. A 1050MB/s portable SSD uses NVMe internally but that doesn't matter to your computer because externally the SSD communicates with your computer via USB.

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

Fujiuseruk said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

Fujiuseruk said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

Fujiuseruk said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

Click to expand...

not true at all . Reformatting simply ignores any faulty sectors so it appears as if you’re loosing memory space but it’s just saving you going through a needless recovery later down the line .
The memory card failure have suffered from is plastic casing becoming brittle with age .

Fujiuseruk said:

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

How long do these cards typically last at or near full capacity?

Click to expand...

don’t know as I don’t measure them and I don’t fill them up either . I replace them periodically as I’ve needed better performance for 4K video .

For what they cost I don’t even worry about them .

Click to expand...

I have several 64 and 128 gb cards which I cycle as they become full. I copy recent images to my computer at intervals, but do not delete the card contents until the card reappears in the cycle (which may take several years) at which time I format the card.

That provides an additional backup for safety.

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Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

Booted Cat said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

Booted Cat said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

Booted Cat said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Click to expand...

HDDs above 2GB are often only 5400RPM. An internal 5400RPM HDD will still be way faster than an external HDD due to the USB power problem we discussed above.

Click to expand...

Thanks I'll use that then. I also have an external 2 TB with that power problem but I am reading now that I should try a different usb port? Did yours work when you switched

Click to expand...

Last time when I tried to backup all my photos from my internal 1TB Samsung SSD to my external 4TB Seagate HDD, the HDD was copying very slow and I initially thought it went bad... So I canceled the copying, let Windows check the HDD for errors, and also viewed SMART information. There was no error or bad sector. I tried copying again. The copying speed was normal initially and then went very low but after a while went back to normal and even high. So it's all about the electricity your computer gives to that USB port at a given time. In the future, just buy portable SSDs only.

Booted Cat said:

ports? I have a mix of usb2,3 and 3.1 on this computer. So by putting those two drives in I will have 4 TB more space to work with!

I also only keep the operating system on the 500 GB SSD but now I can offload some of the programs and pictures on the other internal hard drive I have right now to the new ones. I'll go from having 2 hard drives to 4 (3 internal 1 external if it works properly in a different USB port.)

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

Thanks that is exactly what happened to me! I don't know if I have the proper connectors for portable SSD but this is the motherboard I have:

Asus Rog Strix x470-F Gaming

It has lots of connectors.

Click to expand...

A modern portable SSD communicates with your computer via a USB-C port or a USB-C to USB-A adapter. A 1050MB/s portable SSD uses NVMe internally but that doesn't matter to your computer because externally the SSD communicates with your computer via USB.

Click to expand...

One caution regarding SSD is that the manufacturer sometimes lists write speed for small copies, but hides the fact that the drive write speed will slow significantly if you attempt a large copy.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crucial-x8-portable-ssd/2

"Crucial's X8 writes fast, and the 2TB model comes with a moderately-sized 280GB SLC cache. After writing to the device for roughly four and a half minutes, write performance plummeted from 1,050MBps down to an average of 180MBps. The cache recovers quite a bit with just a few minutes of idle time and nearly recovers entirely within five minutes. While this enables the X8 to deliver responsive performance in most use-cases, those who transfer hundreds of GBs of data a week may want to consider faster options, like LaCie's Rugged SSD or SanDisk's Extreme Pro."

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sherman_levine said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

sherman_levine said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

sherman_levine said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

sherman_levine said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Click to expand...

HDDs above 2GB are often only 5400RPM. An internal 5400RPM HDD will still be way faster than an external HDD due to the USB power problem we discussed above.

Click to expand...

Thanks I'll use that then. I also have an external 2 TB with that power problem but I am reading now that I should try a different usb port? Did yours work when you switched

Click to expand...

Last time when I tried to backup all my photos from my internal 1TB Samsung SSD to my external 4TB Seagate HDD, the HDD was copying very slow and I initially thought it went bad... So I canceled the copying, let Windows check the HDD for errors, and also viewed SMART information. There was no error or bad sector. I tried copying again. The copying speed was normal initially and then went very low but after a while went back to normal and even high. So it's all about the electricity your computer gives to that USB port at a given time. In the future, just buy portable SSDs only.

sherman_levine said:

ports? I have a mix of usb2,3 and 3.1 on this computer. So by putting those two drives in I will have 4 TB more space to work with!

I also only keep the operating system on the 500 GB SSD but now I can offload some of the programs and pictures on the other internal hard drive I have right now to the new ones. I'll go from having 2 hard drives to 4 (3 internal 1 external if it works properly in a different USB port.)

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

Thanks that is exactly what happened to me! I don't know if I have the proper connectors for portable SSD but this is the motherboard I have:

Asus Rog Strix x470-F Gaming

It has lots of connectors.

Click to expand...

A modern portable SSD communicates with your computer via a USB-C port or a USB-C to USB-A adapter. A 1050MB/s portable SSD uses NVMe internally but that doesn't matter to your computer because externally the SSD communicates with your computer via USB.

Click to expand...

One caution regarding SSD is that the manufacturer sometimes lists write speed for small copies, but hides the fact that the drive write speed will slow significantly if you attempt a large copy.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crucial-x8-portable-ssd/2

"Crucial's X8 writes fast, and the 2TB model comes with a moderately-sized 280GB SLC cache. After writing to the device for roughly four and a half minutes, write performance plummeted from 1,050MBps down to an average of 180MBps. The cache recovers quite a bit with just a few minutes of idle time and nearly recovers entirely within five minutes. While this enables the X8 to deliver responsive performance in most use-cases, those who transfer hundreds of GBs of data a week may want to consider faster options, like LaCie's Rugged SSD or SanDisk's Extreme Pro."

Click to expand...

I think I will get the SanDisk since that will just like having one huge flash card as a hard drive lol. I was wondering if Samsung had a good model of these too.

So, basically this will work in my USB-C port? I think I have one, I just have to find it.....there are like 14 or 16 USB ports on this motherboard of various types, I just don't know how to tell them apart lol.

Is Lacie "Rugged" SSD better because it lasts longer than the others? I wonder how many read/writes these drives are good for? I bought the Samsung internal one because theirs are supposed to last a long time. I'm hoping to get at least a 1 TB external NVMe M.2 SSD.

edit-- I found it, it says USB-C on it! But there is only one! Is that bad?

Amazing with over a dozen USB ports but only one of them is USB-C!

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In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.
-Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

sherman_levine said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

sherman_levine said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

sherman_levine said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

sherman_levine said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

Click to expand...

not true at all . Reformatting simply ignores any faulty sectors so it appears as if you’re loosing memory space but it’s just saving you going through a needless recovery later down the line .
The memory card failure have suffered from is plastic casing becoming brittle with age .

sherman_levine said:

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

How long do these cards typically last at or near full capacity?

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don’t know as I don’t measure them and I don’t fill them up either . I replace them periodically as I’ve needed better performance for 4K video .

For what they cost I don’t even worry about them .

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I have several 64 and 128 gb cards which I cycle as they become full. I copy recent images to my computer at intervals, but do not delete the card contents until the card reappears in the cycle (which may take several years) at which time I format the card.

That provides an additional backup for safety.

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So not formatting at least a few times every year makes them last longer, Sherm?

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Booted Cat said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

Fz2000user uk said:

OutsideTheMatrix said:

So ISO 100 sooc JPG is fine and equal to what processing from Raw can do. Anything higher and Raw will be better?

Click to expand...

No with the right software raw will always be better .

Click to expand...

But you don't even use raw

Click to expand...

no I don’t need to.

Booted Cat said:

I guess with Nikon software it's the same especially at ISO 100.

Click to expand...

of course Nikon software is similar to what’s in the jpeg engine but remember it has some extra as it covers even pro model cameras not just point and shoots

Booted Cat said:

and a big problem I have with raw is I need small file sizes, I have two hard drives and both of them are usually 90% full, I always keep deleting older images to make room for new ones. raw files also take forever to transfer from my card to the computer. I tested this too. With M43, a 32 GB card full of all jpg took 15 minutes to transfer and the same card full of raw+jpg took 1 hr and 10 min to transfer. Yuck. I wouldn't even use raw with M43 except I need to because I use it for astrophotography and some challenging dynamic range imaging (like when taking pictures of rainbows which we often get here near sunset.)

Click to expand...

External hard drives are cheap and a great way of keeping your pc drive clear to improve speed and performance.
I download my cards after every photo session, it keeps the download times to a minimum and helps keep the camera performance at its best .
Nothing worse than powering up and having to wait while your camera reads through a ton of images to find the next clear sector

Click to expand...

are external hard drives more reliable than they once were? I went through a period where I owned 3 external hard drives in 5 years, they would always either break down or file transfers would always stop mid transfer and in one case the computer refused to power the drive (the other two had their own power connectors directly to mains.)

Click to expand...

Yes, an external mechanical hard drive can exhibit that behavior (the copying speed stays very low like 50-100KB/s for a while (can be a long while) because the computer somehow gives very little electricity to the USB port). If that happens, you have to wait, or probably power the external HDD with another power source. I have a Seagate 4TB Expansion external HDD so I know that. I also have a SanDisk Extreme Pro Portable external SSD and it doesn't have this problem.

For internal drives, I have a 256GB Liteon SSD that came with my Dell XPS 8900 in 2016 and serves as an Windows 10 OS disk, a 1TB Samsung 860 EVO that serves as a data disk which includes all my photos taken, and a 4TB Seagate HDD for data backup. Internal HDDs don't have the low-copying-speed problem above.

Booted Cat said:

Right now I have one 500 GB PCIe NVMe M2 SSD and one 2 TB regular hard drive.

Excellent idea about downloading the images before the card is full! Do you then reformat the card in camera after every session even when the card isn't full yet and after downloading the images?

Click to expand...

After unloading each photo session from my P1000 SD card to my computer, I put the SD card back to the P1000 and use the P1000's "Delete All Photos" command to clear the card (instead of reformatting). My card is a 128GB Kingston blue card (190MB/s read, 90MB/s write).

Click to expand...

Thanks, I will follow this advice and use Delete All Photos (I also heard it is not good to reformat memory cards frequently.)

I have a back up internal hard drive I have saved in my closet that I could install, so I will probably go down that route. It is a 2 TB mechanical hard drive, but it is 5400 rpm. Is that still okay? I thought I was buying a 7200 rpm hard drive but later found out it is only 5400 rpm. Would that make much of a difference?

Click to expand...

HDDs above 2GB are often only 5400RPM. An internal 5400RPM HDD will still be way faster than an external HDD due to the USB power problem we discussed above.

Click to expand...

Thanks I'll use that then. I also have an external 2 TB with that power problem but I am reading now that I should try a different usb port? Did yours work when you switched

Click to expand...

Last time when I tried to backup all my photos from my internal 1TB Samsung SSD to my external 4TB Seagate HDD, the HDD was copying very slow and I initially thought it went bad... So I canceled the copying, let Windows check the HDD for errors, and also viewed SMART information. There was no error or bad sector. I tried copying again. The copying speed was normal initially and then went very low but after a while went back to normal and even high. So it's all about the electricity your computer gives to that USB port at a given time. In the future, just buy portable SSDs only.

Booted Cat said:

ports? I have a mix of usb2,3 and 3.1 on this computer. So by putting those two drives in I will have 4 TB more space to work with!

I also only keep the operating system on the 500 GB SSD but now I can offload some of the programs and pictures on the other internal hard drive I have right now to the new ones. I'll go from having 2 hard drives to 4 (3 internal 1 external if it works properly in a different USB port.)

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

Thanks that is exactly what happened to me! I don't know if I have the proper connectors for portable SSD but this is the motherboard I have:

Asus Rog Strix x470-F Gaming

It has lots of connectors.

Click to expand...

A modern portable SSD communicates with your computer via a USB-C port or a USB-C to USB-A adapter. A 1050MB/s portable SSD uses NVMe internally but that doesn't matter to your computer because externally the SSD communicates with your computer via USB.

Click to expand...

I just need to find out if there is a USB-C on this motherboard.

edit-- I found it, it says USB-C on it! But there is only one! Is that bad?

Amazing with over a dozen USB ports but only one of them is USB-C!