Jamie154594
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Most "flower petal" lens hoods I have seen can be stored like this.
Hopefully the openings in the side will be enough, but we'll have to wait and see.
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Niaz
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The Krakken
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Just what are you babbling about?? There are things that the 828 possible can do that the Dreb will never be able to do. However, lets not get crazy. There are area's where the Drebel, does, and will continue to simply outcolass the 828. Sorry, but they are two different animals. There is a reason that so many people who can afford it, are thinking about buying both.
Mike Fitzgerald
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Are you really? The instructions, dear boy, the instructions... In a word, "Japlish". Structure, if not local syntax. Mind you, I do think you're right reading between the lines and seeing large CF as no different from MicroDrive; then again, stranger things have happened.
I'm not up to speed with CF specifications, having not needed to look at anything above 256 MB. Does what you're saying mean that the 1 GB CF cards all comply with the Type II standard?
Oh well, at least the confusion over having to actually shoot a manual WB target has gone. (Replaced by other associated confusions though -- they couldn't let us off that lightly! ;-)
Sometimes it can be worse for seasoned users of previous models, though. I notice, e.g., that now you're told to have the hot-shoe set to OFF in the Setup menu if (but only if) you're using a genuine Sony external flash, suggesting that like some other camera brands it now auto-senses the external unit through the hot-shoe as well as the ACC port. It's only set to ON for third-party gear. (Who knows what will happen when fully compatible third-party dedicated flashes arrive?)
I've no idea how this is handled in the V1, but I'll bet it's gonna trip up a few F717 graduates who don't trouble to RTFM in detail!
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Ulysses
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No, not really. :-]
But I like to leave people a way out, when it's necessary. Heheh...
No, you're right. It could happen that Sony would somehow disable CF usage, specifically in the case of shooting hi-rez movie mode. But that entire theory is far too complicated, and I doubt that they would shoot themselves in the left hand in order to get more usage out of the right hand. It just doesn't pay, overall.
The simplest approach is usually the best where these things are concerned. Besides, we also have users and some reviewers who have testified that CF will get the job done, as long as that CF card has a high-enough transfer rate. All the bits reconcile easily. Folks pay too much attention to the forum instead of the real data.
I'm sure that there are some CF cards that won't exactly comply or work in a standard way. Happens with some cameras in combination with some CF cards all too commonly.
Yes, the tool for this has changed. I take it you saw page 73 of the manual.
I found it interesting that Sony is now giving the color temperature of the various presets in Kelvins. Interesting, and appreciated.
More interesting still is the fact that Auto can adjust in range from 3,000 - 7,000 K. The the One-Push WB can adjust from an even wider range from 2,000 - 10,000 K.
And in a wonderful follow-up to what the V1 began, you can now perform a custom WB when using the flash. Excellent.
Yes, that should be interesting. I expect it now that Sony finally is moving away from that ACC port.
Every time. Every time.
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Ulysses
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What's so unusual? That's the way most folks store it, if they have lens hoods, particularly long lens hoods. It usually saves space when you pack it into the bag.
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Emil Pozar
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No info on flash max sync speed?
Mike Fitzgerald
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with full frame shutters in general (as opposed to focal plane). My guess is that they simply haven't bothered talking about it.
Henkka Karapuu
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Henkka Karapuu
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Here is exact quote from imaging-resource:
"A much welcomed update on the F828 model is the availability of both modes in all record modes, as the previous F717 and F707 models only provided NightShot and NightFraming in Auto mode. Big kudos for this enhancement"
Goddam. I have to admit that i'm pretty dissapointed.
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Henkka Karapuu
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"A much welcomed update on the F828 model is the availability of both modes in all record modes, as the previous F717 and F707 models only provided NightShot and NightFraming in Auto mode. Big kudos for this enhancement"
Goddam. I have to admit that i'm pretty dissapointed.
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Emil Pozar
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Ulysses
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I don't know whether I got it from one of their articles (they had two or three on the F828 besides just the preview), and they also had comments on their forum over there. The point is that they had a pre-pro model and could not verify whether this particular feature would change by final firmware release.
This is why you NEVER trust a pre-pro model. Things can change significantly.
Ulysses
This is why you NEVER trust a pre-pro model. Things can change significantly.
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Henkka Karapuu wrote:
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Doesn't the F717 synch up to any speed available? I don't remember for sure. Likely the F828 does the same.
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Henkka Karapuu
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Ok, well let's make a compromise then, we are both right, ok?
I didn't notice the other articles/posts about F828, but yes, i allready thought before that maybe Nightshot did not appear to be cripled just because They (the evil ones) didn't have enough time yet for the cripling..
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Sparky_ca
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Well I guess since i have always used a rubber collapsible lens hood that rolls up when not in use I thought it was cool 
Sparky_ca
I have a photographic memory, but I always seem to have the lens cap on.
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I have a photographic memory, but I always seem to have the lens cap on.
Mike Fitzgerald
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I'd be the first to agree, which is why I'm still shaking my head slowly at Canon's excision of FEC from the DRebel, especially given that it's present in the G series. It's virtually impossible to believe that the move could have been motivated from any viewpoint other than the need to provide a "class distinction" wrt the 10D.
Hmmm... yes, I seem to recall some funnies with the E-10/E-20, among others.
First place I visited after the flash section
Indeed. It suggests that numerical configurability has at least been in the back of someone's mind in R&D. Maybe in the 939...
Yes, though it will be interesting to see what it makes of this in practice. I can't for the life of me understand why more mfrs don't provide ambient sensors further down their model range, currently only present in the top echelon of DSLRs. AWB'ing off the subject is reminiscent of the fox in charge of the chicken coop.
I noticed that, and also the Flash WB preset which should get around the biggest hassle that's always been present with flash. But the way Custom WB works needs a bit of reading between the lines. Am I correct in gathering that executing One push also fires the flash if it's been enabled as described?
I do have a niggle with the One push feature, and that's that the name appears to have become something of a misnomer. I originally assumed that the traditional One push button had been moved from the barrel to the top, but it turns out that that particular button has disappeared and it's now only the WB Mode button that's adjacent to the shutter release. Phil's review didn't really make the point (or maybe I missed it) that the dedicated calibration button had gone.
The way I read it, you have to press-and-scroll to "One push SET", hit the joystick to calibrate, then press-and-scroll again to "One push" in order to actually shoot with the WB reference you've just grabbed. If you shoot permanently in Custom WB, then re-calibrating it periodically becomes very considerably slower than on F7*7 models. "One push" is certainly no longer an appropriate description IMO. It's now as convoluted as on the 10D/300D, but without the latter's advantage of being able to store reference frames.
And it would be about time, too (though that still leaves the need for RC connectivity)! I started to wonder that upon first noting how outta the way the ACC jack is now located. It doesn't get a guernsey in the Index, though I note that it was never represented there in the 717 or even 707 manual either.
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herbie d
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Think of MultiBurst as a video capture index card. When you break down 16 shots on a 1 MB image, even at max size, it would work out to be somewhat between VGA and HDTV720p (640x480 or 720x540).
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Gondor
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I would like to be able to take a picture every x seconds, also motion detection to have it work as a web cam, and the images stored directly on the PC via USB. Why not support video that way also. And since there's almost Christmas why settle with this, IR remote control is a must...
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