Grrrr!

It's not 10 bucks saved - I can't find the ones Fuji recommends.

[edit - not true, I can, but they are hundreds of pounds - which I think a lot for the name]

Alan
 
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So, I don't NEED to buy cards which Fuji recommend - but I SHOULD buy cards that are UHC II spec and at least V60. Such as this one? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Integral-U.../dp/B0845GWK51?sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY

Alan
I personally prefer UHS-II v90 cards because I often shoot in burst mode, and then the faster write speed is really beneficial.

However I have also been shooting with slower V30 cards, without any issues (SanDisk "Extreme" 150 MB/s).

I don't think that I've used slower cards recently though in any of my Fuji cameras!

In general though I would say that invest in faster cards if you care about shooting in bursts (or focus bracketing of many images, which is also a way of burst shooting) but if you don't, then the v30 cards are fast enough.
 
Just thought - there's a Fuji demo day at a nearby camera store which I have been invited to. I will ask them what the limitations really are. In theory UHC II is UHC II.
 
Just thought - there's a Fuji demo day at a nearby camera store which I have been invited to. I will ask them what the limitations really are. In theory UHC II is UHC II.
Do you think they wont try sell you a faster card though ;)

Personally i think its crazy you bought that slow 64gb card, can you even record high quality movies to it.

Anyway, the fast kingston cards are th ones i linked below. might not be on the fuji list but that doesnt mean much imo, they havnt tested all cards and these work great on sonys.

Kingston Canvas React Plus 128GB SDXC Memory Card UHS-II 300R/260W U3 V90 for Full HD/4K/8K - SDR2/128GB


They can be cheaper if you can be patient but dont buy from the US supplier.
 
How do I know if the card is 'up to spec'? It's a 64Gb SDXC card made by Kingston. What else do I need to know?

Here's a picture of the 2 cards. 654Gb is the one that failed. Although it's now working just fine.
Your 64GB card are way too slow. Its write speed is 3 times slower than your 128GB card. One is a U1 card = 10MB/s, the other is a U3 (v30) = 30MB/s.

Reed about the symbols you see on your cards and what they represent here:
Understanding SD Card Speeds, Types and Important Symbols (shuttermuse.com)

In my new MILC I never go under a v90 but guess you could get by with a v60.
V30 is the absolute minimum I will recommend.
So, I don't NEED to buy cards which Fuji recommend - but I SHOULD buy cards that are UHC II spec and at least V60. Such as this one? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Integral-U.../dp/B0845GWK51?sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY

Alan
I don't know that particular card manufacture, but general the faster the better.
You have a 40MP camera that can shoot 15 fps. That mean your camera might have to write 600MB of data /sec if you use it full out.
And how fast do you think your next camera will be? Okay, maybe your next camera won't use cd cards, but maybe it will.

Bottom line is, don't cheap out on memory cards.
 
I agree with you all that my 64Gb cards are too slow for burst mode. I had them lying around from my Canon M cameras - so no costs wasted there.

The 128Gb cards which run at 30MB/Sec seem to work on the burst mode ones better (although I couldn't FORCE a failure on the 64Gb ones).

I will look at the UHS-II cards for a long term solution. I may have to change my working practice though. In the past, I never re-used cards. When getting full (or starting a new venture), I would always put a new card in the camera and save the old one - just in case. It has benefited me once or twice when I was looking for a picture (or set) and realised I'd forgotten to take them off the card in the first place.

If I am going with UHS-II, I can't afford to do that. I will have to consider re-using them.
 
Thanks for the link for Kingston ones - out of stock. But I did find these:


Only V60, but UHS-II and 256Gb. Which should last me a while - and on the recommended list.

Alan
 
I wonder how many of us only use cards on that list.

Alan
When I ordered my X-T4, I made sure to order SD cards from the recommended list. These are also suitable for the X-T5 which replaced it. Similarly when I ordered the X100V, but cheaper ones as this camera cannot utilise the higher read/write speeds of the X-Ts.
Alan,

That's a longish time to clear the buffer.

I'm using the Lexar Gold cards 2000. I get 17 or 18 shots before it hits the buffer, and it takes:

Uncompressed RAW 8 seconds to clear the buffer,

Compressed RAW 4 seconds to clear the buffer.
 
I have followed this thread and ...

There is an issue using old slower SD cards

There is an issue with how the 40mp sensor writes to the card

There is an issue with how folks format their cards

There is an issue with how the data from the card is transferred to your computer

I have seen problems transferring my files (video and stills) from my X-H2 from my Sandisk 512 CFE card (on the Fuji approved list and legit ) using my Fuji OEM USBC cable to my Apple M1 Max occasionally that got worse on the last Fuji firmware and Apple OS updates.

The solution was - always transfer the files again and delete any duplicate files. Don't format your card without checking that your files have been correctly transferred !!!

I bought a CFE card reader and guess what? no more issues !!!

Fuji likely hasn't caught up the firmware vis-a-vis usb c cable file transfer.

Be careful and check your transferred files before you format your memory card in your camera.

HTH,

Ed
 
On my XH2s and XH2 I use my old SD cards that are not so fast 95 MB/s and a 128Gb 150 Mb/s They work botth perfectly The 128 is the one that created some issues in notb recording some 100 shots . A simple fast format did not solve the issue where a complete slow format on the computer did it well since it restires the magnetic properties of every bit where the fast one only reinitialize the FAT.
 
I bought a CFE card reader and guess what? no more issues !!!

HTH,

Ed
Hi Ed,

What CFExpress reader did you buy? And does it read only CFExpress cards, or also UHS-II cards?

(The CFExpress reader which I bought is giving me some issues at least when using it with my MacBook; did not yet test it with Windows because that's currently not as relevant to my usage).

Cheers and thanks,

--Tim
 
I wonder how many of us only use cards on that list.

Alan
When I ordered my X-T4, I made sure to order SD cards from the recommended list. These are also suitable for the X-T5 which replaced it. Similarly when I ordered the X100V, but cheaper ones as this camera cannot utilise the higher read/write speeds of the X-Ts.
Alan,

That's a longish time to clear the buffer.

I'm using the Lexar Gold cards 2000. I get 17 or 18 shots before it hits the buffer, and it takes:

Uncompressed RAW 8 seconds to clear the buffer,

Compressed RAW 4 seconds to clear the buffer.
Yes, same here. No problems so far. You are more patient and methodical to test the real world speeds.

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It's not 10 bucks saved - I can't find the ones Fuji recommends.

[edit - not true, I can, but they are hundreds of pounds - which I think a lot for the name]

Alan
Not true. Lexar Gold 300MB/s currently £149 for 128GB, £81 for 64GB from Amazon U.K. Maybe less via 3rd party or elsewhere. Paying for performance and reliability, not for a name. You are having problems with your less expensive ones. Your choice.
 
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I just tested on my XH2 an old SdHC Lexar quite slow 300x 45 Mbs with burst at 10fps. Works perfectly takes ages to empty the buffer but all images ok no warning. Again IMO when troubles occur only a complete format in the computer (not a fast one) can enterely reinitialize magnetic properties of every bit of the card. Any faulty bit will be corrected. The fast or in camera format only reinitialize the FAT.
 
Thanks all for the comments. I've been using the 'slow' cards for about 400 shots and not had any issues.

I'll go and buy some faster cards. But I hope the 128Gb cards will be OK until I get some better ones.

Alan
Based on spec rating, the green card (Select Plus) writes at 10mps; if you like Kingston - the red card (React Plus) rating would write at 260mps. Though I haven't used Kingston in recent years, they seem to be dependable and a good value - and you're pretty well assured that you won't get a counterfeit. The actual tested write speeds are listed in this chart:

 
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I bought a CFE card reader and guess what? no more issues !!!

HTH,

Ed
Hi Ed,

What CFExpress reader did you buy? And does it read only CFExpress cards, or also UHS-II cards?

(The CFExpress reader which I bought is giving me some issues at least when using it with my MacBook; did not yet test it with Windows because that's currently not as relevant to my usage).

Cheers and thanks,
Hi Tim,

I got this one :

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...o_reader_cfexpress_card_reader_1f.html?sts=pi

Unfortunately, it only reads CFE cards but I already have a backup drive with a reliable SD card reader for my backup UHS-II SDXC cards The SD slot in my MBP also works for SDXC.

HTH,

Ed
 
I bought a CFE card reader and guess what? no more issues !!!

HTH,

Ed
Hi Ed,

What CFExpress reader did you buy? And does it read only CFExpress cards, or also UHS-II cards?

(The CFExpress reader which I bought is giving me some issues at least when using it with my MacBook; did not yet test it with Windows because that's currently not as relevant to my usage).

Cheers and thanks,
Hi Tim,

I got this one :

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...o_reader_cfexpress_card_reader_1f.html?sts=pi

Unfortunately, it only reads CFE cards but I already have a backup drive with a reliable SD card reader for my backup UHS-II SDXC cards The SD slot in my MBP also works for SDXC.

HTH,

Ed
Thanks - I did look at that one but when I saw a 2-in-1 cardreader I thought I'd go for that... I do also have a good and fast, reliable UHS-II card reader already but it takes up a USB port and a CFExpress reader would also take up a port, so I thought that with a 2-in-1 reader it takes only a single port!

But it seems that if I don't access the cards in it for a few minutes then it can no longer read from the cards until I take them out and put them back in. Like it goes into some idle state that it doesn't recover from.

Quite annoying!

If that can't be fixed with some sort of driver or firmware update then I might also get that SanDisk reader.
 
I had a lovely long chat with the Fuji rep at the open day. She was of the opinion that as long as I got UHS II cards at V60 or more, then they should be fine. The list from Fuji are just recommendations, not compulsory. If I want to do high speed video, then I should use V90 or CF-Express cards.

So, I have ordered some of these https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B074M64L1L and will test them out when they arrive.

Alan
 
I had a lovely long chat with the Fuji rep at the open day. She was of the opinion that as long as I got UHS II cards at V60 or more, then they should be fine. The list from Fuji are just recommendations, not compulsory. If I want to do high speed video, then I should use V90 or CF-Express cards.

So, I have ordered some of these https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B074M64L1L and will test them out when they arrive.

Alan
That’s good know. You saved yourself a few bob by having that chat. Truth to tell, I got the V90s because I thought it likely I would shoot some video… but I haven’t yet 🤣

Where was the open day btw?
 
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It was at Wex in Leeds (UK). They had some nice discounts on lenses - shame I bought mine last week. But never mind - I don't regret buying the one I got.

Alan
 

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