Grrrr!

Alan Sh · Feb 22, 2023

Just had a write error when the camera tried to save pictures. New(ish) sdxc card.

Took it out and out in a different (faster) one. No issues.

Put the old one back - no issues.

What's going on? It was working fine 2 days ago and I hadn't touched the card since.

Alan

Jerry-astro · Feb 22, 2023

Alan Sh said:
Just had a write error when the camera tried to save pictures. New(ish) sdxc card.

Took it out and out in a different (faster) one. No issues.

Put the old one back - no issues.

What's going on? It was working fine 2 days ago and I hadn't touched the card since.

Alan

Not sure there's really enough information here to know exactly what happened. It's possible that the original card you use has an intermittent problem. First question to explore is whether the first card you used is up to spec for your camera. If not, then you have your answer. If so, it's certainly possible that it is in fact defective. I would continue using the faster card, and if there are no issues, it would seem to suggest that the first card you used might simply need to be replaced.

I have no information on how you can test a card... perhaps others here might have a suggestion or two on that.

Alan Sh · Feb 22, 2023

How do I know if the card is 'up to spec'? It's a 64Gb SDXC card made by Kingston. What else do I need to know?

Here's a picture of the 2 cards. 654Gb is the one that failed. Although it's now working just fine.

Jerry-astro · Feb 22, 2023

Alan Sh said:
How do I know if the card is 'up to spec'? It's a 64Gb SDXC card made by Kingston. What else do I need to know?

Here's a picture of the 2 cards. 654Gb is the one that failed. Although it's now working just fine.

Here is a list of the cards that Fujifilm recommends for your camera. Start with that. You'll notice that the cards you've shown are not on that list.

https://fujifilm-x.com/en-us/support/compatibility/cameras/x-t5/

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DarnGoodPhotos · Feb 22, 2023

Alan Sh said:
How do I know if the card is 'up to spec'? It's a 64Gb SDXC card made by Kingston. What else do I need to know?

Here's a picture of the 2 cards. 654Gb is the one that failed. Although it's now working just fine.

Aren’t this cards kind of slow to be using with your X-T5? I picked up this two pack of 128GB UHS-2 V60 cards for like $70.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RCN2BFM?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

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Alan Sh · Feb 22, 2023

I wonder how many of us only use cards on that list.

Alan

Alan Sh · Feb 22, 2023

DarnGoodPhotos said:
Alan Sh said:

How do I know if the card is 'up to spec'? It's a 64Gb SDXC card made by Kingston. What else do I need to know?

Here's a picture of the 2 cards. 654Gb is the one that failed. Although it's now working just fine.

Click to expand...

Aren’t this cards kind of slow to be using with your X-T5? I picked up this two pack of 128GB UHS-2 V60 cards for like $70.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RCN2BFM?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Thanks for the link.

I was under the impression that speed was almost irrelevant for photos (as opposed to video) as it took as long as it took to write - but it didn't produce 'Write Error". Maybe I'm wrong.

Alan

Jerry-astro · Feb 22, 2023

Alan Sh said:
I wonder how many of us only use cards on that list.

Alan

Well, I don't own an X-T5, but I do have an X-H2s, which also requires a pretty fast card. Not sure about other folks here, but I took those spec requirements pretty seriously and made certain to acquire a card that was conformant to specs. Ignoring that is basically done at your own risk. That's probably the first thing people should look at if they experience issues that might be related to card performance.

Alan Sh · Feb 22, 2023

I just did a test. Set the camera to CH and pressed the shutter. Took pictures until it started to slow down before I let the shutter go. No issues writing it all out (JPG & RAF). That was to the 128Gb card. It took about 15 seconds to clear the buffer and stop the light flashing. Did the same thing with the slower 64Gb card in - no issues except it took over 40 seconds the write it all out.

RobRoy22 · Feb 22, 2023

Alan Sh said:
I wonder how many of us only use cards on that list.

Alan

When I ordered my X-T4, I made sure to order SD cards from the recommended list. These are also suitable for the X-T5 which replaced it. Similarly when I ordered the X100V, but cheaper ones as this camera cannot utilise the higher read/write speeds of the X-Ts.

baobob · Feb 22, 2023

I had similar issues last summer. I just did a complete (non a fast one) format in the computer, it takes time but after it worked perfectly. It is a 128Gb SD card.

Mustafa K · Feb 22, 2023

I would recommend to format the SD cards in the camera before using them.

Alan Sh · Feb 22, 2023

Mustafa K said:
I would recommend to format the SD cards in the camera before using them.

I normally do that.

Alan

RustyRus · Feb 22, 2023

Alan Sh said:
I wonder how many of us only use cards on that list.

Alan

When I invest thousands of dollars in camera gear, I always make sure to use the proper SD cards. Its cheap and easy to do.

Why wouldn't you?

HJVN · Feb 22, 2023

Alan Sh said:
How do I know if the card is 'up to spec'? It's a 64Gb SDXC card made by Kingston. What else do I need to know?

Here's a picture of the 2 cards. 654Gb is the one that failed. Although it's now working just fine.

Your 64GB card are way too slow. Its write speed is 3 times slower than your 128GB card. One is a U1 card = 10MB/s, the other is a U3 (v30) = 30MB/s.

Reed about the symbols you see on your cards and what they represent here:
Understanding SD Card Speeds, Types and Important Symbols (shuttermuse.com)

In my new MILC I never go under a v90 but guess you could get by with a v60.
V30 is the absolute minimum I will recommend.

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rla1022 · Feb 22, 2023

no comment other than saying I wish that people would use proper thread subjects. Take the 1 second longer and write a good. What’s my dang post about. Just my thoughts.

nnowak · Feb 22, 2023

Your 128GB card is slow. Your 64GB card is ridiculously slow.

The spec' you need to look for, and is often hard to find, is the rating for "write speed". Manufacturers will sometimes only publish the "read speed", which is typically faster than the "write speed".

The other thing to look for is the interface format. There is the older UHS-I, and the newer UHS-II. Both of your cards are the older UHS-I format. UHS-II supports much faster speeds. Your X-T5 supports UHS-II in both slots.

Your 64GB card has a max "write speed" rating of 10MB/s.

Your 128GB card has a max "write speed" rating of 85MB/s

For comparison, the Sony Tough SF-G card listed on the Fuji compatibility list is a UHS-II card with a max "write speed" rating of 299MB/s

https://fujifilm-x.com/en-us/support/compatibility/cameras/x-t5/

Those faster cards on the list can look pretty expensive, but they tend to be a better investment in the long run. Higher end cards also tend to have better warranties and better reliability. Personally, I bought a 64GB Sony Tough SF-G card years ago for my then X-T2. I am still using that card without issues on my X-T3 and I know it will work great on any of the newest Fuji bodies.

Alan Sh · Feb 22, 2023

Thanks all for the comments. I've been using the 'slow' cards for about 400 shots and not had any issues.

I'll go and buy some faster cards. But I hope the 128Gb cards will be OK until I get some better ones.

Alan

Alan Sh · Feb 22, 2023

HJVN said:
Alan Sh said:

How do I know if the card is 'up to spec'? It's a 64Gb SDXC card made by Kingston. What else do I need to know?

Here's a picture of the 2 cards. 654Gb is the one that failed. Although it's now working just fine.

Click to expand...

Your 64GB card are way too slow. Its write speed is 3 times slower than your 128GB card. One is a U1 card = 10MB/s, the other is a U3 (v30) = 30MB/s.

Reed about the symbols you see on your cards and what they represent here:
Understanding SD Card Speeds, Types and Important Symbols (shuttermuse.com)

In my new MILC I never go under a v90 but guess you could get by with a v60.
V30 is the absolute minimum I will recommend.

So, I don't NEED to buy cards which Fuji recommend - but I SHOULD buy cards that are UHC II spec and at least V60. Such as this one? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Integral-U.../dp/B0845GWK51?sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY

Alan

RustyRus · Feb 22, 2023

Alan Sh said:
HJVN said:

Alan Sh said:

How do I know if the card is 'up to spec'? It's a 64Gb SDXC card made by Kingston. What else do I need to know?

Here's a picture of the 2 cards. 654Gb is the one that failed. Although it's now working just fine.

Click to expand...

Your 64GB card are way too slow. Its write speed is 3 times slower than your 128GB card. One is a U1 card = 10MB/s, the other is a U3 (v30) = 30MB/s.

Reed about the symbols you see on your cards and what they represent here:
Understanding SD Card Speeds, Types and Important Symbols (shuttermuse.com)

In my new MILC I never go under a v90 but guess you could get by with a v60.
V30 is the absolute minimum I will recommend.

Click to expand...

So, I don't NEED to buy cards which Fuji recommend - but I SHOULD buy cards that are UHC II spec and at least V60. Such as this one? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Integral-U.../dp/B0845GWK51?sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY

Alan

You do you man....Everyone is guiding you to buy cards that Fuji recommends and tested. Save the 10 bucks on the cards for your 1800 dollar camera though. Choice is yours.

Grrrr!

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