and Sony will never do it
possibly, but how many units does the a7s3 really sell? Or the fx3?
I would not call the gains small. Especially in terms of straight out of camera output. And in particular for higher isos
Bought new, yes, but the entry ticket to the system is around 5k used.
how does this reduce demand for Sony b&w :£I shot Leica film cameras for about 30 years, but I am more careful about how I now spend my money, today, now that I am retired
Sony won't make enough money on niched items like this. It's the same reason why they haven't brought back the RX1 series or bothered with making stuff like tilt/shift lenses.
I don’t know, but I suspect it’s quite a few given it’s apparent video-centricity. I’d imagine there are a lot more folks looking for high quality video than dedicated b&w photos.
interested to know more about this.
To buy used, someone has first to have bought new
When money is tight, why buy two bodies when one will do both. The number of folks who would ONLY have a B&W camera must be even smaller.how does this reduce demand for Sony b&w :£I shot Leica film cameras for about 30 years, but I am more careful about how I now spend my money, today, now that I am retired
I work part-time at a camera shop... they sell quite well actually... we can never keep them in stock (well... slowly with the FX3, but the even more expensive FX6 is ALWAYS back ordered)
They won't
i find that hard to predict given the success of instax, leica or even fuji. If it was a 1500 camera, I think a lot of people would just add it
they do actually, it's still highly sought after by videographers. Last year, a popular YouTuber went around asking all the other top YTers on what they use for their gear... I would say a good 70% of them all said a7SIII. The FX3 sell well too... and the even more expensive FX6 are never in stock. In case you haven't read my other reply... I work at a camera shop
a lot of people would rather have the option... and edit in b/w or have built-in sims (like Fuji). But go on with your wishful thinking... and if Sony ever actually makes one... you can come back and tease me about how wrong I was... I've been in the retail side of things for the last 6 years and... I'm in close contact with the local Sony rep... in my honest opinion, it won't ever happen with Sony
I would be interested, but I agree that Sony doesn't seem interested in such niche products. I think we would see an RX1RIII before an A7CM... and I don't think we'll see an RX1RIII.
You wouldn't need two cameras. Just three filters and a tripod.I would guess Sony would not do so for marketing reasons. Leica is known for offering relatively low-volume variants of their cameras, and with the prices they charge, can apparently afford to do so. Sony, on the other hand, seems to go for the models that can sell in volume.
Leica buyers, for the most part, have been esoteric purist types that would appreciate the small image quality gains that come from converting the Bayer quadrants on the sensor to finer gradation B&W pixels... and are willing to pay something north of 10,000 USD for body and lens to do so. I shot Leica film cameras for about 30 years, but I am more careful about how I now spend my money, today, now that I am retired
Would I purchase a Sony B&W model? Likely not, since I shoot on high resolution sensors and have good Photoshop skills. When I want to shoot B&W, I set one of my cards to B&W JPG's and the other to RAW (I erase the JPG's and process the RAW's into B&W). I can visualize my shots since I see B&W images in the viewfinder. The tiny bit of fine gradation I give-up by shooting a color Bayer, is offset by the flexibility to also shoot color in certain situations without carrying two cameras.
Maybe for weddings etc, but there is very few of them being used for photography based on photos out there, and not that many available used
not sure I can provide better answers than Google, but to me it’s like the difference between aps c and full frame or foveon v bayer
Sure!?To buy used, someone has first to have bought new
yes, but it’s possible to have as only camera and many have two regardless. Especially if it was priced like a7cWhen money is tight, why buy two bodies when one will do both. The number of folks who would ONLY have a B&W camera must be even smaller.how does this reduce demand for Sony b&w :£I shot Leica film cameras for about 30 years, but I am more careful about how I now spend my money, today, now that I am retired
i honestly I disagree, for a lot of reasons, but maybe primarily because probably 30-40% of all pro photography is b&w, and so for none of the major manufacturers to offer it, given all of the advantages seems like an oversight.
Cool photos
6 years working in retail, I've sold ZERO units of the QX1, nor have I ever gotten request to special order one. Someone tried trading one in once, the trade-in value was sooooo low, he left. More reasons why Sony will make better decisions on taking chances with niche things like that.
I think it would have sold well if it had an evf. They were in high demand by drone users for a while
