Why not call them DSLs?

Like most things in the world these days, it just comes down to money.
Please mention an era when money did not matter. (that is after money had been invented...)
Wow, you got me there, well done.
Just the other night I was reading how as we get older we change our memories about how things used to be. For example it is common to read : "we used to live the door unlocked " but no, we did lock the doors and that is why we had the keys in our pocket but we like to remember otherwise.

The same for crime, trusting people, taking people at their word and so on. That is why ,for example, prisons have existed for a very long time.
 
Like most things in the world these days, it just comes down to money.
Please mention an era when money did not matter. (that is after money had been invented...)
Wow, you got me there, well done.
Just the other night I was reading how as we get older we change our memories about how things used to be. For example it is common to read : "we used to live the door unlocked " but no, we did lock the doors and that is why we had the keys in our pocket but we like to remember otherwise.

The same for crime, trusting people, taking people at their word and so on. That is why ,for example, prisons have existed for a very long time.
OK, wonderful, thanks for sharing I guess...?
 
Instead of the wacky "mirrorless"?

Mirrorless sounds like "horseless" ... "horseless carriage."

SLR stands for single lens reflex (mirror).

DSLR stands for Digital SLR.

So DSL stands for Digital Single Lens. (no reflex.)
DSL is already taken in the internet world. I am fine with MILC; it aptly describes the system, I know exactly what it means as opposed to the confusion created in the “why call it single lens if it is actually interchangeable?”, and it can be shortened to just ILC or camera if the DSLR disappears in some future era.
Many acronyms have multiple meaning. So even though DSL is used for digital subscriber line that doesn't bother me. By the way, DSL may be gone in a few years when it is replaced by fiber optic lines as it is in our area.

So, I rather like DSL
 
So, I rather like DSL
Excellent !

This is a DSL :

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It's Digital and has a Single Lens

come to think of it, this is also a DSL

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both also happen to be mirrorless too but this is the point : when a term is understood by most it remains.
 
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Instead of the wacky "mirrorless"?

Mirrorless sounds like "horseless" ... "horseless carriage."
The difference between mirrorless and horseless carriage is that you only need one word, mirrorless. It's the same number of syllables as DSL.

Besides, mirrorless for now is a term which is well-understood and accurate. Can't ask for more than that from a term.
Mirrorless alone casts a broad net. Rangefinder cameras are mirrorless, Technical cameras with digital backs are mirrorless. Cell phone cameras are mirrorless for the most part. But MILC casts a net that is only somewhat less broad.
 
Like most things in the world these days, it just comes down to money.
Most camera companies were pretty resistant to the term 'mirrorless,' worrying that it sounds like there's something lacking.

It didn't come from the manufacturers.

Richard - dpreview.com
 
DSLR already has a strong identity initially derived from SLR film cameras. DSLM is like that, but mirrorless. I know, I know, it’s completely different inside. But it’s still digital, it’s got essentially the same form factor, though a bit smaller in most cases, and handles very much the same. I’ve got a Z9, but I couldn’t tell you what MILC means without looking it up. 😉 DSLM already has a family tree to grow on.

--
Alan Clark
https://arclark.smugmug.com/
 
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Instead of the wacky "mirrorless"?

Mirrorless sounds like "horseless" ... "horseless carriage."
The difference between mirrorless and horseless carriage is that you only need one word, mirrorless. It's the same number of syllables as DSL.

Besides, mirrorless for now is a term which is well-understood and accurate. Can't ask for more than that from a term.
Mirrorless alone casts a broad net. Rangefinder cameras are mirrorless, Technical cameras with digital backs are mirrorless. Cell phone cameras are mirrorless for the most part. But MILC casts a net that is only somewhat less broad.
True, but I've never encountered a situation (i.e. an actual sentence) where someone was talking and referred to mirrorless and the sentence was ambiguous because of it.
 
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Why not!

MILC never realy took off.

DSL (as in the internet thing) isn't that relevant (at least not in where i'm from).

DSL it is!
:-D
…. This… is ….. Money!
 
Sony firstly called its product EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lens camera). Not very nice? 🤔😣.

In China, it was once called Single Eye No Reflex camera... 🤔😔. DSLRs were called Single Eye camera by some until now :-) .

I suppose the name of Mirrorless is more generally used nowadays to show it's differences from the reflex mirror mechanism used in DSLR.

To further classified interchangeable lens camera system from fixed lens camera, ILC was added. I am happy with the name MILC. Far better than telling people I am shooting with EVIL. :-)
 
The first "mirrorless" camera , the Panasonic DG1 was described in a couple of initial reviews as Electronic Viewfinder Intercheangeable Lens, non-SLR by another one and just Micro Four Thirds by another two.

Those from the first five I had a look at.
 
Sony firstly called its product EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lens camera). Not very nice? 🤔😣.

In China, it was once called Single Eye No Reflex camera... 🤔😔. DSLRs were called Single Eye camera by some until now :-) .

I suppose the name of Mirrorless is more generally used nowadays to show it's differences from the reflex mirror mechanism used in DSLR.

To further classified interchangeable lens camera system from fixed lens camera, ILC was added. I am happy with the name MILC. Far better than telling people I am shooting with EVIL. :-)
In some of the original literature , Sony called the NEX 3 and 5 "interchangeable lens Digital SLR camera"

see page 3 here


and here :

 
That does not work because Digital Single Lens suggest a built in lens not an intercheangeable lens type.

You need to remember that Single Lens Reflex meant that you focused and shot through the same lens so it was a Single Lens-Reflex not a Single Lens Camera.
Yes, this is the way.

If we don’t want to define it by what it is not, then not only is “mirrorless” meaningless in the future when they are all mirrorless, the term “SLR”/“single lens reflex” is already a second layer of vestigial meaninglessness that was already outdated years and years ago.

Ask most photographers today why they were called DSLRs and they might say something like “because they’re like film SLRs, but digital.” Ask them next what SLR was all about, and many photographers, particularly the younger ones, will not be able to explain it properly.

SLR was called Single Lens Reflex not only because it was a reflex camera (you see exactly what you are shooting), but because it only had one lens! At the time the term SLR became popular, SLR was itself a comparative term against…the standard pro camera at the time, the Twin Lens Reflex, two lenses. So the new unconventional ones were Single Lens Reflex.

Both “Single Lens” and “Reflex” were names to tell you it was NOT the prevailing standard.

Now we want to say “Mirrorless” as another term to say it is NOT the prevailing standard.

Now all those terms are silly, because the standards you were supposed to compare them to are all gone. Non-reflex cameras and twin-lens cameras are no longer there to be compared to, and mirrored digital cameras are up next because they are becoming extinct.

So there is strong logical support for “ILC” as the best way to go forward. With a few exceptions, what distinguishes a “serious” digital camera today is the fact that you can change the lens. Whether it is single lens, or reflex, or has a mirror, are either not important or no longer meaningful. What is meaningful is that the lens is interchangeable. Interchangeable lens camera. ILC.

(Now, about “single lens”…if you wanted to be pedantic, it is possible to argue that saying “single lens” might be relevant again given that more and more smartphones now come with an array containing 2, 3, or 4 lenses, just like the multi-lens film cameras of old…. :) )
 
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Instead of the wacky "mirrorless"?

Mirrorless sounds like "horseless" ... "horseless carriage."

SLR stands for single lens reflex (mirror).

DSLR stands for Digital SLR.

So DSL stands for Digital Single Lens. (no reflex.)
There is no authority that determines what we should call them. People put terms out there and in the end common usage settled down, as it does. You're perfectly free to put 'DSL' out there but I think that its chances of catching on at this late stage are very limited. There were better options than 'mirrorless' in play, but they've all gone. My favourite was 'EVIL' (Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable lens) but that want by the wayside along with the clumsy 'MILC' (Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Camera).
 
DSLR stands for Digital SLR.

So DSL stands for Digital Single Lens. (no reflex.)
We don't need to distinguish digital cameras from film any more than we need to horeseless carriages from the horse-driven variety. It's pretty safe to assume that when people talk about cameras these days, they're usually talking about digital. Often enough that it makes more sense to refer to "film cameras" when appropriate and stop qualifying digital cameras as such. And we haven't needed to differentiate our single lens cameras from the twin lens variety in decades. So while DSL may differentiate itself from DSLR by dropping the R, everything that's left is pointless.
One might go in the other direction and add one letter: DSLRL - digital single lens reflexless. However, I'm not sure if that really helps :)
No it doesn't MCLV! :-)

(Whatever that means...lol)
It means 1155 .

Don
 

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