bbruijn
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Great advjce and love the tripod tip.
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Travel Europe lightweight kit and pack with one or two MFT Cameras advice
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bbruijn
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Sagrada familia looks like it deserves the time. A longer lens deserves some consideration there.
bbruijn
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True, when i travelled only with the 20mm i really did enjoy my photography and trip more although, on occasion, i missed a longer lens. Now that i have so many i feel like i need to use them for what i got them for. Righfully or wrongfully.
bbruijn
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Originally i thought 8-18mm plus 35-100mm but the 14-140 with 9mm covers most of that ground. Since i bought and have been using the 12-60mm it really has shown me what a standard zoom lens can do with its versatility. So hard to decide.
Chris R-UK
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It would be worth doing some investigation of Sagrada Familia photography before leaving. Google brought up some useful information, e.g. best time is later on in the afternoon, but it might also be worth posting on the Travel and Landscape forum and maybe the Tripadvisor Barcelona forum.
We were last there about 6 years ago when the outside had a lot of construction going on and was a bit of a mess for photography. The interior was pretty complete. I could easily have spent a whole day there, maybe two, but I was travelling with family and so we only stayed for a couple of hours.
Lots more things to photograph in Barcelona, e.g. the other Gaudi buildings and the Parc Guell (make sure you enter through the right entrance), the harbour/beach areas with the miniature submarine and the giant whale, street perform as on Las Ramblas, the market, the concert hall, the Olympic diving pool, etc., etc. Allow much more time for Barcelona than Madrid.
Chris R-UK
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I almost forgot - IMHO a fisheye lens is even more important than a telephoto lens for the Sagrada Familia.
If I were going on this trip, I would take one body and one prime lens to document the trip and the Ricoh for fun when I felt like leaving the other camera in the hotel. If you have a smart phone, you have an extra camera for backup.
Will you miss some photos? Of course. Will you take amazing photos, absolutely. I don't like to carry a lot of weight when I travel and I don't like worrying about my stuff when I get separated from it going through customs. Have a blast.
Will you miss some photos? Of course. Will you take amazing photos, absolutely. I don't like to carry a lot of weight when I travel and I don't like worrying about my stuff when I get separated from it going through customs. Have a blast.
DLBlack
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The 12-100/4.0 would be my choice with couple if fast primes. It is bulky but very good. Especially with the Olympus camera body where you get Sync IS. Several of the lenses you are considering are f4.0 or slower lenses, like the 12-60/2.8-4.0 is basically a f4.0 lens or the 14-140.
tedolf
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I have no idea why anybody would need two bodies for travel photography.
One body, one fast wide angle prime and one moderate telephoto would do the job.
Tedolph
One body, one fast wide angle prime and one moderate telephoto would do the job.
Tedolph
one blind eye
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Thanks for doing the math on weights of your proposed lightweight travel kit for your trip to Europe.
I am going to Spain this year in the Fall. Will take my Pen-F with 17mm and maybe one other lens but not sure what FL. My criteria is: small and light compact kit. Bag security (especially Madrid/Barcelona) from pickpockets and thieves since I will be mostly walking, taking the metro, public bus, and inter-city trains. Second camera will be iPhone 14 Pro, for some short videos, and as a secondary back up camera. My trip is more of a leisure vacation than a hard core trip for photography. Family pics, memory shots, etc.
I am also considering adding a small and light WA to short telephoto zoom, and maybe the 9mm FE body cap lens (weighs almost nothing).
Enjoy your trip!
OBE
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I am going to Spain this year in the Fall. Will take my Pen-F with 17mm and maybe one other lens but not sure what FL. My criteria is: small and light compact kit. Bag security (especially Madrid/Barcelona) from pickpockets and thieves since I will be mostly walking, taking the metro, public bus, and inter-city trains. Second camera will be iPhone 14 Pro, for some short videos, and as a secondary back up camera. My trip is more of a leisure vacation than a hard core trip for photography. Family pics, memory shots, etc.
I am also considering adding a small and light WA to short telephoto zoom, and maybe the 9mm FE body cap lens (weighs almost nothing).
Enjoy your trip!
OBE
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I see life through monocular vision.
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one blind eye
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I’m thinking the same. Did you use your FE much overall?
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What if you hate changing lenses? I find it awkward no matter the situation, no matter how much planned, it's never a smooth process while out walking about. Also sometimes its good to have different sizes. I'm traveling in a few weeks where there will be a lot of live music. So in addition to my GX9 I'm bringing a tiny discreet GM1 for those venues. It's one of the big advantages of M43, may as well exploit it.
one blind eye
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I like to see more with my eyes, instead of having to concentrate on looking through a view finder or lcd screen to get the perfect shot(s). Also I am a bit paranoid about pickpockets and thieves targeting me, as they know am I am a tourist. Will be visiting Spain this year and hoping to keep my camera kit small and light for that reason. One camera the Pen-F, one general walk around lens the 17mm, and maybe a short lightweight zoom(?). But then again, I will have my iPhone 14 Pro as a secondary camera /video device. So I might not need a zoom lens. Or a wide angle lens. Might be good enough.
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I'm in favor of the Ricoh GR going on this trip.
Not sure which model you have, but having the built-in flash on the GR2 comes in very handy. It also excels at discrete street scenes. And, it really does fit in your pocket.
Not sure which model you have, but having the built-in flash on the GR2 comes in very handy. It also excels at discrete street scenes. And, it really does fit in your pocket.
jeffharris
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Keep it simple.
As a carry-on only traveler, granted not anywhere near the amount of time you’ll be away, less is better. Even so, I tend to carry too many lenses.
The EM5, 14-140mm and 8-18 are a good start. Lots of range and flexibility.
Something like the 15mm would be good indoors and at night. Maybe add a 42.5mm f1.7 to extend indoor and after dark capabilities?
That’s basically my travel kit. GX8, 7-14mm f4 for interiors, 14-140mm for daylight. 17.5mm and 42.5mm for museums and nighttime. For cathedrals and whatnot, I may swap the 42.5mm for a 35-100mm f2.8. I do sometimes carry a Voigtländer 75mm f1.5 for that and keep the 42.5mm.
I’ve considered swapping the 14-140mm for 12-40mm and 35-100mm combo, but still on the fence there. I think of all the lens swapping I’d like to avoid! The 14-140mm is just so much fun to use and a great daylight walkabout lens! I use the long end quite a bit to shoot architectural details.
Anyway, probably not much help here…
Sounds like an amazing trip!
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Panasonic GX-8 and 12-100. Did the Viking cruise and it was all I needed. 12-100 is sharp at f4 and whatever focal length. I also had a 9-18 and the plastic (best bargain lens ever 40-150). The combo was perfect for any time of day and lighting condition. The Panasonic has versatility built into it I will never touch. I loved it's built in pano mode. I used to have an ep-5 with the viewfinder. That too was a great camera. Go with the pan f and 12-100 lens. A can't lose combo. You can only carry 1 camera at a time.
one blind eye
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Which 14-140 do you recommend /own? For a small and light travel zoom. I use an Olympus Pen-F with 17mm f /1.8.
jeffharris
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I have the latest, weathersealed version. I actually sold the earlier version to get weather sealing.
The original Beast 14-140mm f4-5.8 was m y first M4/3 lens. Sold that a while back.
tedolf
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I have no idea why anyone would hate changing lenses.
Lenses can be changed in ten seconds with your eyes closed if your lenses have index bumps on them:
Different "sizes"?
Tedolph
Chris R-UK
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I didn't have one with me. :-(
But I certainly wished that I had for ceiling shots.
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