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dmanthree said:
Lettermanian said:
dmanthree said:
OK, I create a playlist, populate it, and it plays. I quit Music. I reopen it and the songs aren't there. I have to repopulate the playlist every damned time. What am I doing wrong?
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I've read through the thread and have tried to recreate your problem, but everything is working properly in the Music app for me. Honestly I've found this version (running Ventura on a 2018 MBP, Music app version 1.3.0.138) quite easy to work with. Before Christmas I made several folders and playlists; I even successfully imported several cd's with an old external dvd drive connected to a usb hub :) The Music app also plays directly from the external cd drive, and it also will play mp3 music files directly from an external hdd. I tried to drag and drop some files into a playlist, which worked, and when I looked at the file info, it was still located on the external drive but playing in Music. When I quit Music and ejected the external drive, I started Music again, and the song had indeed been imported and was in the playlist without the ext drive connected. Not sure at all why yours are not there.

The app can also convert AAC (Apple) files to mp3 easily, and Playlists can also be copied to my iPhone. I connect my phone to the computer (via usb hub) and it now shows up in Finder (no need for iTunes). All the backup and sync functions are accessed through Finder, as well as all the music and playlists I would like to copy to my phone. I find this easier and smoother than doing everything through iTunes of the past. My only suggestion would be to ensure that you're running the latest version of Music. Which OS are you running?
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Ventura 13.1
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I did not realize I was running a previous version of Ventura (13.0.xxx), so I backed up my laptop then installed the 13.1 update. I opened my Music app, and it had updated from 1.3.0.138 to 1.3.2.31. I tried the same process, and interestingly, when I moved a file from my cd player to a playlist, it seemed to automatically import that song before it would play. I think last night, in the previous app version, the song would play, but the location was still the external cd player when I looked at the file info while it was playing. Music will also start playing a file on an external drive immediately when one double-clicks on the file (if it's a cd/dvd drive it will ask to import, but it won't ask when an audio file on an external hdd is double-clicked).

So, a bit of a mystery I guess. Even with the update from my previous version it still seems to work fine for me, not sure why you're consistently having the issue of needing to add files twice :-(
 
Scott Vail said:
CAcreeks said:
Lettermanian said:
dmanthree said:
OK, I create a playlist, populate it, and it plays. I quit Music. I reopen it and the songs aren't there. I have to repopulate the playlist every damned time. What am I doing wrong?
Click to expand...
I've read through the thread and have tried to recreate your problem, but everything is working properly in the Music app for me. Honestly I've found this version (running Ventura on a 2018 MBP, Music app version 1.3.0.138) quite easy to work with. Before Christmas I made several folders and playlists; I even successfully imported several cd's with an old external dvd drive connected to a usb hub :) The Music app also plays directly from the external cd drive, and it also will play mp3 music files directly from an external hdd. I tried to drag and drop some files into a playlist, which worked, and when I looked at the file info, it was still located on the external drive but playing in Music. When I quit Music and ejected the external drive, I started Music again, and the song had indeed been imported and was in the playlist without the ext drive connected. Not sure at all why yours are not there.

The app can also convert AAC (Apple) files to mp3 easily, and Playlists can also be copied to my iPhone. I connect my phone to the computer (via usb hub) and it now shows up in Finder (no need for iTunes). All the backup and sync functions are accessed through Finder, as well as all the music and playlists I would like to copy to my phone. I find this easier and smoother than doing everything through iTunes of the past. My only suggestion would be to ensure that you're running the latest version of Music. Which OS are you running?
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OP dmanthree posted "Running OS 13.1." Could be yet another Ventura bug. For example, I heard that the pmset command changed and is hard to figure out.

Thanks for your opinions about Apple Music.

iTunes had an option "Copy to iTunes Media folder when adding to library" which, if not set, would strand music on external disks after disconnection. Same option in Music.
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This is interesting.. I'm sure I moved my Library back in the iTunes days, and resides in the folder, iTunes Media. I also have a folder, Music, with a just several tracks of various artists. I don't know how these were created since the main Library is comprised of full CD imports.

Also interesting is that I recently created a slideshow using iMovie. Someone in this forum posted a YouTube video describing how to do this. When I tried adding a soundtrack, I wasn't able to. The only way I found successful was by drag and drop from the external volume.

Scott
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I think I remember that thread (sync video to music beats?), and it's also strange that you cannot access your Music library in iMovie. Mine shows up in iMovie when I click on the Audio and Video tab, then directly under that to the left, "Music" is displayed, along with my playlists etc. Then it is drag and drop to the music timeline (below the video timeline), though I found that if I dragged too quickly the music file wouldn't load on the timeline; I had to select the file again and drag it more slowly. Maybe the file needs a second or so to load before or while dragging to be placed on the music timeline successfully.
 
CAcreeks said:
Lettermanian said:
dmanthree said:
OK, I create a playlist, populate it, and it plays. I quit Music. I reopen it and the songs aren't there. I have to repopulate the playlist every damned time. What am I doing wrong?
Click to expand...
I've read through the thread and have tried to recreate your problem, but everything is working properly in the Music app for me. Honestly I've found this version (running Ventura on a 2018 MBP, Music app version 1.3.0.138) quite easy to work with. Before Christmas I made several folders and playlists; I even successfully imported several cd's with an old external dvd drive connected to a usb hub :) The Music app also plays directly from the external cd drive, and it also will play mp3 music files directly from an external hdd. I tried to drag and drop some files into a playlist, which worked, and when I looked at the file info, it was still located on the external drive but playing in Music. When I quit Music and ejected the external drive, I started Music again, and the song had indeed been imported and was in the playlist without the ext drive connected. Not sure at all why yours are not there.

The app can also convert AAC (Apple) files to mp3 easily, and Playlists can also be copied to my iPhone. I connect my phone to the computer (via usb hub) and it now shows up in Finder (no need for iTunes). All the backup and sync functions are accessed through Finder, as well as all the music and playlists I would like to copy to my phone. I find this easier and smoother than doing everything through iTunes of the past. My only suggestion would be to ensure that you're running the latest version of Music. Which OS are you running?
Click to expand...
OP dmanthree posted "Running OS 13.1." Could be yet another Ventura bug. For example, I heard that the pmset command changed and is hard to figure out.
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I was running a previous version of Ventura and the app, it's possible there was a slight difference in how the app works between versions.
CAcreeks said:
Thanks for your opinions about Apple Music.
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I remember iTunes being a pain to figure out, but honestly after siting down for a couple of hours and putting my holiday playlists together, the Music app all seemed to work well.
CAcreeks said:
iTunes had an option "Copy to iTunes Media folder when adding to library" which, if not set, would strand music on external disks after disconnection. Same option in Music.
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In Music, the similar options now are "Keep Music Media Folders Organized" and "Copy files to Music media Folder when adding to Library", both of which I have enabled. The location of my Music Media Folder is also my laptop's drive, so those factors may be why my experience has been positive with the app. Any differences from these seemingly optimal settings might be a factor in the op's issues (?)
 
Lettermanian said:
Scott Vail said:
CAcreeks said:
Lettermanian said:
dmanthree said:
OK, I create a playlist, populate it, and it plays. I quit Music. I reopen it and the songs aren't there. I have to repopulate the playlist every damned time. What am I doing wrong?
Click to expand...
I've read through the thread and have tried to recreate your problem, but everything is working properly in the Music app for me. Honestly I've found this version (running Ventura on a 2018 MBP, Music app version 1.3.0.138) quite easy to work with. Before Christmas I made several folders and playlists; I even successfully imported several cd's with an old external dvd drive connected to a usb hub :) The Music app also plays directly from the external cd drive, and it also will play mp3 music files directly from an external hdd. I tried to drag and drop some files into a playlist, which worked, and when I looked at the file info, it was still located on the external drive but playing in Music. When I quit Music and ejected the external drive, I started Music again, and the song had indeed been imported and was in the playlist without the ext drive connected. Not sure at all why yours are not there.

The app can also convert AAC (Apple) files to mp3 easily, and Playlists can also be copied to my iPhone. I connect my phone to the computer (via usb hub) and it now shows up in Finder (no need for iTunes). All the backup and sync functions are accessed through Finder, as well as all the music and playlists I would like to copy to my phone. I find this easier and smoother than doing everything through iTunes of the past. My only suggestion would be to ensure that you're running the latest version of Music. Which OS are you running?
Click to expand...
OP dmanthree posted "Running OS 13.1." Could be yet another Ventura bug. For example, I heard that the pmset command changed and is hard to figure out.

Thanks for your opinions about Apple Music.

iTunes had an option "Copy to iTunes Media folder when adding to library" which, if not set, would strand music on external disks after disconnection. Same option in Music.
Click to expand...
This is interesting.. I'm sure I moved my Library back in the iTunes days, and resides in the folder, iTunes Media. I also have a folder, Music, with a just several tracks of various artists. I don't know how these were created since the main Library is comprised of full CD imports.

Also interesting is that I recently created a slideshow using iMovie. Someone in this forum posted a YouTube video describing how to do this. When I tried adding a soundtrack, I wasn't able to. The only way I found successful was by drag and drop from the external volume.

Scott
Click to expand...
I think I remember that thread (sync video to music beats?), and it's also strange that you cannot access your Music library in iMovie. Mine shows up in iMovie when I click on the Audio and Video tab, then directly under that to the left, "Music" is displayed, along with my playlists etc. Then it is drag and drop to the music timeline (below the video timeline), though I found that if I dragged too quickly the music file wouldn't load on the timeline; I had to select the file again and drag it more slowly. Maybe the file needs a second or so to load before or while dragging to be placed on the music timeline successfully.
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I was actually able to access my Music library from iMovie and sort by time to roughly match the length of the slideshow. I wasn't able to drag the track into the slideshow using that method. Though, it worked by clicking on the external drive and drilling down to the same artist/track. It was a 17 minute audio track suggesting that I didn't allow ample time, but the fact that drag and drop worked from the external drive tends to negate that hypothesis.

Scott
 
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