Tilt or flip-out screen - which do you prefer?

because both of them are for different applications.

Tilt is easier on composition but more restriction. Flip out (Fully Articulated) is more flexible but sometimes harder to use (out of the same visual axis of the lens).

You can do everything a tilt screen can do with a flip-out, but you can't do everything a flip-out can do with a tilt screen. The tilt is simpler and faster, the flip is useful in more ways. I'll take either one over a fixed display.

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nextSibling said:

Tilt-only screens are only useful if you never shoot vertically.

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Most are too lazy to turn their camera around to shoot vertically so they crop later.

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Which is why I enjoyed using Hasselblad cameras with their square format when shooting film.

David5833 said:

You can do everything a tilt screen can do with a flip-out, but you can't do everything a flip-out can do with a tilt screen. The tilt is simpler and faster, the flip is useful in more ways. I'll take either one over a fixed display.

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Not quite. Tilt-only does not accommodate shooting overhead or lacetop in portrait orientation, nor anything shooting from in front of the camera when using support.

Skeeterbytes said:

David5833 said:

You can do everything a tilt screen can do with a flip-out, but you can't do everything a flip-out can do with a tilt screen. The tilt is simpler and faster, the flip is useful in more ways. I'll take either one over a fixed display.

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... nor anything shooting from in front of the camera when using support.

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My little camera is designed to do selfie by its 180° tilt LCD.

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Skeeterbytes said:

David5833 said:

You can do everything a tilt screen can do with a flip-out, but you can't do everything a flip-out can do with a tilt screen. The tilt is simpler and faster, the flip is useful in more ways. I'll take either one over a fixed display.

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Not quite. Tilt-only does not accommodate shooting overhead or lacetop in portrait orientation, nor anything shooting from in front of the camera when using support.

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Reading comprehension is hard. Re-read what I wrote.

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If I use the screen, I'd have put on my glasses, which is rarely needed or handy when outdoors (which I am in 98% of time). Not an issue with EVF, works great w/o glasses.
I also find myself shooting fairly often in 'portrait' orientation, and below waist or above head... fully articulating screen works for me - and I can 'close' the screenwhen not using, reducing risk of accidental damage when in rougher environment - I mostly use wrist leash, not neck strap.
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nesimmo said:

My style of photography utilises the tilt screen extensively (I don't shoot video). So much so, that I cannot find an upgrade path from my high-mileage EM1 original.

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I prefer a tilt screen that can flip up for compact vlogging.

I love having a flip-out screen for my street photo camera, the GX9. And a dual-axis screen for my G9 which I use for other photo uses and where being able to use the screen flipped down in portrait mode is also useful.

I absolutely hate articulating (flip-out) screens. To me it's like putting a side view mirror on your camera to make it mire cumbersome. The only good thing about articulating screens is you can turn the around and just use the viewfinder, like a film camera. I don't tilt the LCD on my GX9 that often but find it far more user friendly when I do.

nesimmo said:

My style of photography utilises the tilt screen extensively (I don't shoot video). So much so, that I cannot find an upgrade path from my high-mileage EM1 original.

Olly E-P7, EM10 IV, and Panny GX9 are the only recent-ish (ie 20 MP) bodies I can find with a tilt screen although none of them are weather-sealed, and they are all entry/mid-range bodies due an update. I also prefer the handling of my EM1 body

If the OM-1 had a tilting screen, I'd have pre-ordered one and it would have done me for the next 10 years. OM systems - give me a PEN F II with a tilt screen & weather sealing and take my money!

I get the advantages of flip-out screen for video shooters etc - I've had an EM5 II from day one, but I picked up an EM1 shortly afterwards for the tilting screen.

I've been an Olympus shooter since the "macro"4/3 days with an E510, but the only camera on the market that looks like a replacement for my EM1 is the Fuji XT5 as it's weather-sealed and has a tilting screen (that also flips out to portrait).

I assume this poll will confirm I'm in the underprivileged oppressed minority.

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I tend to shoot a fair amount in portrait mode so a screen that articulates in two planes is useful.

Useful but not essential. At the end of the day even a fixed screen is useful - in the old days we even used to use angle finders.

So tilt or flip out or some combination of the two would not be a deal breaker for me.

nesimmo said:

My style of photography utilises the tilt screen extensively (I don't shoot video). So much so, that I cannot find an upgrade path from my high-mileage EM1 original.

Olly E-P7, EM10 IV, and Panny GX9 are the only recent-ish (ie 20 MP) bodies I can find with a tilt screen although none of them are weather-sealed, and they are all entry/mid-range bodies due an update. I also prefer the handling of my EM1 body

If the OM-1 had a tilting screen, I'd have pre-ordered one and it would have done me for the next 10 years. OM systems - give me a PEN F II with a tilt screen & weather sealing and take my money!

I get the advantages of flip-out screen for video shooters etc - I've had an EM5 II from day one, but I picked up an EM1 shortly afterwards for the tilting screen.

I've been an Olympus shooter since the "macro"4/3 days with an E510, but the only camera on the market that looks like a replacement for my EM1 is the Fuji XT5 as it's weather-sealed and has a tilting screen (that also flips out to portrait).

I assume this poll will confirm I'm in the underprivileged oppressed minority.

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Sony R1 is the design I enjoyed most. Waist-level shooting is fun and disarming for people and pets. Doing it with a modern tilt LCD is acceptable but the thought of bumping into something and breaking it is on my mind, plus the position is too far back.

The R1 LCD could also be used facing you or facing away for selfies. But it's not a design that could be adapted well for today's bodies.

Fixed with a tilting EVF would be my second choice. Then the kind on the a7R V, which would satisfy most everyone.

I’m a tilt user. Genuinely surprised flippy's polled higher. Suppose like politics, we need a 3rd alternative. Never used the Fuji hybrid. If it works well, perhaps the industry could adopt it. It the usual decade of due course.

I voted hybrid for the best of both worlds, but I'd much rather have a simple tilt screen than one that flips out.

I've had to learn to live with the FAS on my G9 and OM-1, despite the constant annoyance it causes. Entry level cameras like the GX9 and E-M10 don't fit my needs, so I don't really have a choice other than completely changing system. For me it's by far the worst thing about using m4/3.

I would love to see a dual hinge rear screen. Most of the time for me the rear screen could be fixed. The few times I need a hinged rear screen half the time I need the tilt to be horizontal and the other half it needs to be vertical. So a dual hinge would cover both cases. A horizontal tilt hinge and a FAS hinge for the vertical case plus can rotate around for selfies and screen protection.

Both --- as a walk about or street I definitely prefer the tilting LCD and is what I would prefer on the M5.x or M 10.x (and I might change systems for that use if the tilt LCD disappears from Olympus bodies.)… but on the larger M1.x bodies I often add the larger eye cup and it hangs over the tilting screen so the articulated is more useful … I have thought the dual screen that Fuji sometimes uses would be a perfect solution but have never actually had access to any camera that had one so maybe …. …..

WhyNot

I have used both, but I prefer the flip-out screen. The tilt screen on my E-m10 ii is fine, but I would have preferred the flip-out screen for the following reasons:

1. When using the camera in portrait mode as the flip out screen can be adjusted for both vertical and horizontal "tilt".

2. The flip-out screens allow you to reverse the screen when folded against the body so that the screen is protected (not exposed) when closed. This is also useful, since I am a left eye shooter and when using the viewfinder, my nose brushes against the screen moving the focus point. On my EM-10 with a tilt screen I have to disable the touch screen on my camera to keep this from happening.

3. On my old camera with a flip-out screen, I used it as an easy switch from viewfinder to lcd by just flipping out the screen. I would leave the screen closed against the body (with the screen not exposed as described in point number 2 - which automatically enabled the viewfinder for all operations (including menus etc which I like). Then when I need the LCD screen, I just quickly flip it out to the side which switches on the LCD and it is ready to adjust for any angle shooting. Then just flip it back closed to switch back to viewfinder.

4. The connection seems more robust to me. At least on my EM-10 the ribbon cable that connects the screen to the camera is exposed when it is tilted. The cable connection on cameras with the flip-out screen don't seem exposed.

Chris

A7RV screen seems like the best of both worlds, better than Fuji's XT-2,3,5 implementation.

NikonBiologist said:

A7RV screen seems like the best of both worlds, better than Fuji's XT-2,3,5 implementation.

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I think that any implementation of a 4-way tilt screen (whether it's the Fuji, Nikon or Sony approach) is likely to be better than the very limited traditional tilt only option.

I can use either style of screen. IF the camera I wanted came in 2 models, one with the tilt LCD and the other with the articulated LCD, I would choose the tilt model.

And I DO shoot a lot of video. My real preference though, would be a tilt LCD that can be flipped up so the LCD faces the subject.