Yes, there is a 25 mp mft sensor
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Do you think there will ever be a 24 or 30mp sensor in m43?
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Some time ago somebody wrote about 41mpx sensor:
41 Megapixel Micro Four Thirds Sensor | Natural Exposures, Inc.
41 Megapixel Micro Four Thirds Sensor | Natural Exposures, Inc.
Brandon birder
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Maybe there will be one day but I don't see any need for one for my needs for wildlife photography. The sensor in the OM1 is a fascinating design using all 80 million sensels to produce accurate bit depth autofocus and then by quad lenses to produce a better coloured low light image at 20 megapixels is a great trade off. I don't want bigger files.
The 20 mpx M43 sensor is roughly equivalent in pixel density to an 80 mpx full frame sensor.
I have a Nikon D810 and a D500 as well as an Olympus system. I prefer the OM1 to the D500 because of weight and similar images and to the D810 which allows obscene cropping but results in a no better image than either after cropping.
If I was a low light landscape photographer I could see a desire for more pixels but HHHR achieves a similar result for static landscapes computationaly. And for printing up to most sizes I would ever display, 20 mpx is more than enough for landscapes. And rather than use pixels for teleconverters I can use real teleconverters if I want more pixels on a bird.
More pixels may also slow down the AF systems and I wouldn't like that at all.
Not sure if you mean those specific values or > than they are now. The GH6 is already 25MP. I believe there is a near certain chance we'll see sensors with much larger pixel counts than 30mp eventually for M43.
GodSpeaks
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YES. Absolutely necessary for 8K video. Approximately 33MP would be required.
I now use the Fuji GFX100s for stills (102MP).
epozar
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OM-1 = 80 MPix
BackToNature1
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The real question should be will MFTs survive under Panasonic or OMD solutions. If it does, then certainly the MP will continue to increase. Whether or not some posting want it or not, that matters not, since most likely with that mindset aren't going to buy anything, regardless of the MP.
Hence what THEY need for whatever purpose. Those folks don't get, that applies to THEM. So those with Hard Limits should stop reflecting their limitations onto others.
Engineers fortunately are not limited by the musings of posting Boards. Otherwise, humanity would still be living in CAVES. Or worse.
Hawkypuck
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Cropping maybe for wildlife....
motormatic
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More pixels would lead to higher noise. Smaller pixel size means less light reaches each pixel. Not much to gain there.
Adrian Harris
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The thought of 8k video all ways makes me giggle. I remember the days of render farms to try and make editing video less laborious.
It'll certainly take a serious bit of kit to edit a feature length movie in 8k
MarkAndrewsUK
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For marketing reasons, yes
Whether it’s truly necessary or not is a separate debate
Whether it’s truly necessary or not is a separate debate
Adrian Harris
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One thing about getting older and wiser is that we learn to ignore marketing bullsh1t and ask ourselves, what will this change bring to the game - in practical terms.
JosephScha
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Here's what I think:
1) The GH6 already has a 25MP sensor.
2) I think BSI sensor and maybe some new technology we have not imagined yet would enable a really good 25MP sensor for m43.
1) The GH6 already has a 25MP sensor.
2) I think BSI sensor and maybe some new technology we have not imagined yet would enable a really good 25MP sensor for m43.
Yes the GH6 has a 25mp sensor but not really in the true sense of my question as it is not giving us any stills improvements.
That is a video camera, large with its built-in fan for its dedication to video. It's bigger and heavier which defeats the purpose of M43.
The DPR review and studio comparison shots don't show any apples-to-apples image quality gain or dynamic range gains without compromises such as shadow noise so I agree with how you put it. It's not a really good 25mp sensor. The OM1 is still squeaking by the GH6 in stills quality.
JosephScha
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I'm glad we agree! Yes, I don't think the GH6's 25MP sensor showed an advantage for stills photography at low ISOs. I am still incredibly happy with my G9 (20MP).
I am old enough that I remember shooting Kodachrome with a Honeywell Pentax H3V. I am completely sure that 20MP is at least double the resolution of slides. When I re-photograph some of my old slides with the G9 the grain is visible! When you enlarge the picture you see grain - not more detail. So with that background, the G9 makes me very happy.
I am old enough that I remember shooting Kodachrome with a Honeywell Pentax H3V. I am completely sure that 20MP is at least double the resolution of slides. When I re-photograph some of my old slides with the G9 the grain is visible! When you enlarge the picture you see grain - not more detail. So with that background, the G9 makes me very happy.
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David
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Olympus/OMDS said that there will be a 30 something MP on the horizon for 8K video so the brand can continue to remain competitive with other brands and cell phones who already have more than 30+MP sensors, but due to the limited resources that OMDS have, they focused instead on the OM-1by improving the noise performance at higher ISOs first and then eventually applying this high ISO performance to the higher MP MFT sensor which they are working on with now. This was discussed during the interview with the OMDS management in Japanese. They are also working on real time dual HDR for the Quad Bayer sensor to give slightly better DR, which cell phones had already done for quite awhile. Whether this will come as either a firmware upgrade for the OM-1 or packaged alongside with the new camera.
Never!!! I stopped thinking a long time ago, too much work.
oneofone25
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yes, it will happen. and it will be OM Systems.
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David
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Extreme cropping. I sold one of my art works to the city taken with my E-P5, yes it's a 16MP sensor but I up-rezed it to 40MP before I submitted to them as they required the file to print well up to a minimum of 30"x80" and up. I saw what they did with my file and they just cropped the hell out it it so much, by adding some of their stuff on it, that it became a 8MP file from 40MP! So now I've added an E-M1X to address this extreme cropping issue that I will face with their requirements in the near future with the 50MP Hand Held Hi-Res. So yes, I wouldn't mind OMDS coming out with a 33MP MFT body or adding a Fuji GFX 50S II body to my kit. I much prefer a 33MP MFT body though, because there are limitations with hand held hi-res.
Commercial clients nowadays will take images and cropped them so much that some of the times the images will end up looking like a postage stamp for web displays and then expects to print it OFF THAT for trade shows and wall mount displays while looking great! Not a problem if you have a Fuji XT-5, Sony A7R5 or a Fuji GFX 100, but 16MP/20MP is getting a bit limited for some higher end professional work.
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