Nikon d810 or d850

Good point, but I could use the money for other photography stuff like 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Good point. I like having 2 of a particular camera body. I shoot events and weddings, shooting dual bodies of the same is important to me. That being said if I was wise I’d keep 2 d850’s and sell the other 4 bodies. But the d500 is a keeper so I gotta have 2 of them.
 
You’re probably right.
 
If only the d810 had the iso button location like the d500 and d850.
 
Options, options, and more options. I like having 2 of what I shoot with for events and weddings.
 
I was supposed to buy a D800 as an very inexpensive mid step till I get the D850. If everything goes by plan will finally have my “Holly Grail” DSLR in few weeks in an offer that derailed temporarily some other buys (200mm f/2 VR and Sigma 50mm 1.4 Art).

The D800 proved to be a terrific camera, the D850 will probably be even better but not as much as I thought initially. The D850 doesn’t have built-in flash, otherwise is better in everything else.

Curiously enough, another great DSLR, the Pentax K-1 II also have some characteristics that the D850 misses (IBIS, pixel shift and astrotracer come to mind). But after D780 didn’t do well on the market, I doubt there will be a D850 replacement anytime soon.
 
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I was supposed to buy a D800 as an very inexpensive mid step till I get the D850. If everything goes by plan will finally have my “Holly Grail” DSLR in few weeks in an offer that derailed temporarily some other buys (200mm f/2 VR and Sigma 50mm 1.4 Art).

The D800 proved to be a terrific camera, the D850 will probably be even better but not as much as I thought initially. The D850 doesn’t have built-in flash, otherwise is better in everything else.

Curiously enough, another great DSLR, the Pentax K-1 II also have some characteristics that the D850 misses (IBIS, pixel shift and astrotracer come to mind). But after D780 didn’t do well on the market, I doubt there will be a D850 replacement anytime soon.
There may never be another new Nikon DSLR. I'm fine anyway.

But the "D780 didn’t do well on the market" will have absolutely nothing to do with it.
 
I was supposed to buy a D800 as an very inexpensive mid step till I get the D850. If everything goes by plan will finally have my “Holly Grail” DSLR in few weeks in an offer that derailed temporarily some other buys (200mm f/2 VR and Sigma 50mm 1.4 Art).

The D800 proved to be a terrific camera, the D850 will probably be even better but not as much as I thought initially. The D850 doesn’t have built-in flash, otherwise is better in everything else.

Curiously enough, another great DSLR, the Pentax K-1 II also have some characteristics that the D850 misses (IBIS, pixel shift and astrotracer come to mind). But after D780 didn’t do well on the market, I doubt there will be a D850 replacement anytime soon.
There may never be another new Nikon DSLR. I'm fine anyway.

But the "D780 didn’t do well on the market" will have absolutely nothing to do with it.
 
I was supposed to buy a D800 as an very inexpensive mid step till I get the D850. If everything goes by plan will finally have my “Holly Grail” DSLR in few weeks in an offer that derailed temporarily some other buys (200mm f/2 VR and Sigma 50mm 1.4 Art).

The D800 proved to be a terrific camera, the D850 will probably be even better but not as much as I thought initially. The D850 doesn’t have built-in flash, otherwise is better in everything else.

Curiously enough, another great DSLR, the Pentax K-1 II also have some characteristics that the D850 misses (IBIS, pixel shift and astrotracer come to mind). But after D780 didn’t do well on the market, I doubt there will be a D850 replacement anytime soon.
There may never be another new Nikon DSLR. I'm fine anyway.

But the "D780 didn’t do well on the market" will have absolutely nothing to do with it.
I think the D850 sold well, so business case could be made to bring an update. But the later D780 drew limited if not minimal interest, so my guess Nikon will be thinking twice about the D850 replacement.
The two are not connected. The D750 which the D780 "replaced" was a second tier camera, maybe third tier camera, depending on whether you include the D8x0 series in with the first tier D4-D6.

IMO, the D780 was a major step back from the D750 in that it didn't have the ability to take a grip. I wouldn't want one if you gave one to me.

Whether Nikon builds a D850 II is not influenced by what the D780 did. My guess is that they will not build one. They haven't figured out how to make a Z7 series body yet as good as a D850. So they would be stupid to raise the bar even higher by building a D850 II
 
I own a d500, a d810, and recently a d850 which I not used yet. I like the external controls on the d500. I like my d810’s and am very familiar with them. I set the d810 record button as the iso control. I realize the external controls on the d500 and the d850 are almost identical, and the d850 is newer than the d810. I realize the d850 is superior in almost every way, ….. but am I nuts for considering selling the d850 and keeping the d810? I photograph portraits, family sessions, corporate events, weddings, real estate, and very little wildlife or landscapes. I’m not a fan of cf cards, I do like the d500 and d850 xqd card option. Oh what to do 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤷🏻‍♂️
Without reading all the other replies as I should, they won't change my opinion. While the D810 and the D500 are excellent cameras, they fall short of the D850 in many ways. Get rid of the D500s and D810s. Keep the D850s. But, why not keep them all? Or at least one of each.
How does the D810 fall short in many ways? Granted the D850 has negligibly better resolution, one stop better noise, and maybe a little better focusing. In skilled hands, hard to think the D810 is that deficient
 
I own a d500, a d810, and recently a d850 which I not used yet. I like the external controls on the d500. I like my d810’s and am very familiar with them. I set the d810 record button as the iso control. I realize the external controls on the d500 and the d850 are almost identical, and the d850 is newer than the d810. I realize the d850 is superior in almost every way, ….. but am I nuts for considering selling the d850 and keeping the d810? I photograph portraits, family sessions, corporate events, weddings, real estate, and very little wildlife or landscapes. I’m not a fan of cf cards, I do like the d500 and d850 xqd card option. Oh what to do 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤷🏻‍♂️
Without reading all the other replies as I should, they won't change my opinion. While the D810 and the D500 are excellent cameras, they fall short of the D850 in many ways. Get rid of the D500s and D810s. Keep the D850s. But, why not keep them all? Or at least one of each.
How does the D810 fall short in many ways? Granted the D850 has negligibly better resolution, one stop better noise, and maybe a little better focusing. In skilled hands, hard to think the D810 is that deficient
You just said it, mostly. As I stated on another thread:

It was a big leap forward from an already legendary D810, and one of the last big leaps in the Nikon DSLR line:
  • 46MP - Full frame BSI-CMOS Sensor
  • ISO 64 - 25600 ( expands to 32 - 102400)
  • 3.20" Tilting Screen
  • 7.0 fps continuous shooting
  • 4K (UHD) - 3840 x 2160 video resolution
  • Built-in Wireless
The first week I owned my first D850 back in 2017 (replaced my D810), I kept asking myself if this camera could take a bad photo—it just seemed like it couldn't. I think these other great, new features often get over-looked, but they are also a big part of what makes the D850 legendary:
  • Focus-bracketing
  • Focus-stacking
  • Film-digitizing
  • 153 Focus Points with 99 Cross-type
  • Bluetooth & NFC connection
  • Battery Life of 1800+ shots
  • Illuminated buttons
  • Minimum focus sensitivity of EV -4
  • 8K Timelapse
  • Anti-flicker
And so on. The D5 contributed a lot to the D850 focus and tracking capabilities, but it is a more specialized camera. The D5 (and D6) are legendary themselves because they do what they do much better than any other camera, including the D850. They reign supreme in low-light and action.

How many more ways do you need? I loved my D810, it's a great camera, but...
 
I own a d500, a d810, and recently a d850 which I not used yet. I like the external controls on the d500. I like my d810’s and am very familiar with them. I set the d810 record button as the iso control. I realize the external controls on the d500 and the d850 are almost identical, and the d850 is newer than the d810. I realize the d850 is superior in almost every way, ….. but am I nuts for considering selling the d850 and keeping the d810? I photograph portraits, family sessions, corporate events, weddings, real estate, and very little wildlife or landscapes. I’m not a fan of cf cards, I do like the d500 and d850 xqd card option. Oh what to do 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤷🏻‍♂️
Without reading all the other replies as I should, they won't change my opinion. While the D810 and the D500 are excellent cameras, they fall short of the D850 in many ways. Get rid of the D500s and D810s. Keep the D850s. But, why not keep them all? Or at least one of each.
How does the D810 fall short in many ways? Granted the D850 has negligibly better resolution, one stop better noise, and maybe a little better focusing. In skilled hands, hard to think the D810 is that deficient
You just said it, mostly. As I stated on another thread:

It was a big leap forward from an already legendary D810, and one of the last big leaps in the Nikon DSLR line:
  • 46MP - Full frame BSI-CMOS Sensor
  • ISO 64 - 25600 ( expands to 32 - 102400)
  • 3.20" Tilting Screen
  • 7.0 fps continuous shooting
  • 4K (UHD) - 3840 x 2160 video resolution
  • Built-in Wireless
The first week I owned my first D850 back in 2017 (replaced my D810), I kept asking myself if this camera could take a bad photo—it just seemed like it couldn't. I think these other great, new features often get over-looked, but they are also a big part of what makes the D850 legendary:
  • Focus-bracketing
  • Focus-stacking
  • Film-digitizing
  • 153 Focus Points with 99 Cross-type
  • Bluetooth & NFC connection
  • Battery Life of 1800+ shots
  • Illuminated buttons
  • Minimum focus sensitivity of EV -4
  • 8K Timelapse
  • Anti-flicker
And so on. The D5 contributed a lot to the D850 focus and tracking capabilities, but it is a more specialized camera. The D5 (and D6) are legendary themselves because they do what they do much better than any other camera, including the D850. They reign supreme in low-light and action.

How many more ways do you need? I loved my D810, it's a great camera, but...
D850 FTW. In all my ownership of my two D850 I never just used it as a walk around camera, it was always work related. In that regard it always got the shot. I used a D810 or D800 for walk around "B roll" pics while on working trips

I never shot video with a D850 either. Wish I'd done that as well

I was always afraid of dropping it or some calamity while casually shooting with the D850 but now I wish I had shot with it casually. Guess I could get another one :-)
 
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It was a big leap forward from an already legendary D810, and one of the last big leaps in the Nikon DSLR line:
  • 46MP - Full frame BSI-CMOS Sensor
  • ISO 64 - 25600 ( expands to 32 - 102400)
  • 3.20" Tilting Screen
  • 7.0 fps continuous shooting
  • 4K (UHD) - 3840 x 2160 video resolution
  • Built-in Wireless
The first week I owned my first D850 back in 2017 (replaced my D810), I kept asking myself if this camera could take a bad photo—it just seemed like it couldn't. I think these other great, new features often get over-looked, but they are also a big part of what makes the D850 legendary:
  • Focus-bracketing
  • Focus-stacking
  • Film-digitizing
  • 153 Focus Points with 99 Cross-type
  • Bluetooth & NFC connection
  • Battery Life of 1800+ shots
  • Illuminated buttons
  • Minimum focus sensitivity of EV -4
  • 8K Timelapse
  • Anti-flicker
And so on. The D5 contributed a lot to the D850 focus and tracking capabilities, but it is a more specialized camera. The D5 (and D6) are legendary themselves because they do what they do much better than any other camera, including the D850. They reign supreme in low-light and action.

How many more ways do you need? I loved my D810, it's a great camera, but...
Guy,

Thanks for the helpful and clear articulation of the D850 benefits. When students tell me they are think of upgrading equipment, my first question is, "What problem are you trying to solve?" For me, none of those trumped the built in flash, plus throwing in the cost of upgrading and selling the D810, which was still a nice upgrade from the D700--lighter and higher resolution! It would've probably cost me at least $1,000 USD which would have been hard to justify since I'm not a working professional photographer.

My first adjustable camera was a Kodak Retina, Model 1. No light meter and I had to manually advance the film counter. Coming from that background, any digital camera with immediate feedback after shooting and no ongoing film costs let me feel like I'm cheating every time I'm shooting.

All the perceived benefits (for me) of the D850 over the D810 are just more icing on the several layer cake. And I still like my built in flash. Sometimes, you just have to bring your own light.
 
I was supposed to buy a D800 as an very inexpensive mid step till I get the D850. If everything goes by plan will finally have my “Holly Grail” DSLR in few weeks in an offer that derailed temporarily some other buys (200mm f/2 VR and Sigma 50mm 1.4 Art).

The D800 proved to be a terrific camera, the D850 will probably be even better but not as much as I thought initially. The D850 doesn’t have built-in flash, otherwise is better in everything else.

Curiously enough, another great DSLR, the Pentax K-1 II also have some characteristics that the D850 misses (IBIS, pixel shift and astrotracer come to mind). But after D780 didn’t do well on the market, I doubt there will be a D850 replacement anytime soon.
There may never be another new Nikon DSLR. I'm fine anyway.

But the "D780 didn’t do well on the market" will have absolutely nothing to do with it.
I think the D850 sold well, so business case could be made to bring an update. But the later D780 drew limited if not minimal interest, so my guess Nikon will be thinking twice about the D850 replacement.
The two are not connected. The D750 which the D780 "replaced" was a second tier camera, maybe third tier camera, depending on whether you include the D8x0 series in with the first tier D4-D6.

IMO, the D780 was a major step back from the D750 in that it didn't have the ability to take a grip. I wouldn't want one if you gave one to me.

Whether Nikon builds a D850 II is not influenced by what the D780 did. My guess is that they will not build one. They haven't figured out how to make a Z7 series body yet as good as a D850. So they would be stupid to raise the bar even higher by building a D850 II
 
Guy,

Thanks for the helpful and clear articulation of the D850 benefits. When students tell me they are think of upgrading equipment, my first question is, "What problem are you trying to solve?" For me, none of those trumped the built in flash, plus throwing in the cost of upgrading and selling the D810, which was still a nice upgrade from the D700--lighter and higher resolution! It would've probably cost me at least $1,000 USD which would have been hard to justify since I'm not a working professional photographer.

My first adjustable camera was a Kodak Retina, Model 1. No light meter and I had to manually advance the film counter. Coming from that background, any digital camera with immediate feedback after shooting and no ongoing film costs let me feel like I'm cheating every time I'm shooting.

All the perceived benefits (for me) of the D850 over the D810 are just more icing on the several layer cake. And I still like my built in flash. Sometimes, you just have to bring your own light.
The D810 is still one of my favorite cameras. I recently bought a really nice copy of one, like new, low shutter count, great price. And yes, one of the benefits I liked was having that built-in flash. Unfortunately, it wouldn't power up and I had to return it. It was a rare deal and I was disappointed it was defective.

And that is a good question, what problem are you trying to solve. I say a similar thing, "to what end?"

Cheers.
 
What was the name of that tiny Nikon flash?? SB-400? SS-400 ?? Use that with a D850 At least it rotates up towards the ceiling. Wonder if Nikon still has it for sale.

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What was the name of that tiny Nikon flash?? SB-400? SS-400 ?? Use that with a D850 At least it rotates up towards the ceiling. Wonder if Nikon still has it for sale.
The Speedlight SB-400. No it's discontinued. However, I recently bought one from the KameraStore in Finland (of all places)—best price I could find anywhere; eBay way more expensive. Great store, shipping to US was very quick. Good people.

The SB-400 is an excellent little flash, compact and yet very powerful, great for fill light anytime.
 

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