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Sony rx10 v ??
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sludge21017
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No. It's called Christmas.
Guy Parsons
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"So much rubbish".
You know exactly the same as all the rest of us = nothing.
For the OP... The likelihood of course is never any update, see the many many threads on exactly the same subject.
Digital Nigel
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Sony doesn't provide a running commentary on its future model plans, and nor does it leak. The rumour sites, like everyone else outside a few in Sony have no idea about any future models that are more than a month or so away. So, it's highly unlikely that a new model is imminent. Beyond that, we simply have no idea whether or when there might be an M5, or what new features it might offer. We can guess and speculate, but that's it.
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Jeff15
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Amazon UK increased the price by £200 last week
JohnNewman
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As they often do. WEX has it at £1299 which is a regularly discounted price at different times, usually about twice a year.
Lots of people would like a Mark 5 but very few actually need one. It's the all-time greatest camera of its kind and I believe still selling well. Highly unlikely anything will come along anytime soon at an affordable price.
But have fun speculating as many have done and still do. No harm done but ultimately pointless. Sony will tell us if and when there's a new version.
In the meantime, if you want one, get it at a good price and enjoy,
Best
John
Night Pixel
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Even if they did "know something" they cannot say.
It is also possible Sony does not know if they will issue an updated RX10. They continue to sell the M4 so it's not like they are losing any sales.
tbcass
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Just like nobody knows if an update is coming nobody knows if it is not or unlikely.
Guy Parsons
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It's best to set expectations very low, then there may be a pleasant surprise one day.
Basically the likelihood of RX10M5 is very low as compact and bridge camera sales in general collapse and makers move to high end system cameras with low sales numbers, high prices and high profit per item. They want to sell system bodies and then carry on for a few more years selling various lenses to the same customer.
When hooked with a lens collection the customer is less likely to stray away to a different system - though that may not be a truism for the US market as there seems to be massive amount of customer system changes happening as seen in these forums.
Night Pixel
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It would be interesting to see the trends in sales over the last 5 years or so. Do you know where I can find them? I have wondered why this market continues to exist considering the value of ILC systems.
I say this even though I have an RX10M4. It is still a fun camera even though I have better glass on my Fujifilm system.
Thanks.
Guy Parsons
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Searching around I find random charts of sales, some of course not up to date but the message is clear.
Here's a few...
Infographic: Digital Camera Sales Dropped 87% Since 2010
This chart shows how many digital cameras the world's largest camera vendors shipped between 2003 and 2016.
www.statista.com
Prediction at https://www.statista.com/statistics/1172711/forecast-of-digital-camera-sales-volume/
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petapixel.com
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www.digitalcameraworld.com
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1kcreatives.com
No charts but good comments https://opticsmag.com/digital-camera-sales-statistics/
tbcass
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Out of curiosity do you have any evidence that the sales of Sony's 1" compact and bridge cameras have collapsed? Maybe they have but if so wouldn't an RX10 M5 revive sales?It's best to set expectations very low, then there may be a pleasant surprise one day.
Basically the likelihood of RX10M5 is very low as compact and bridge camera sales in general collapse and makers move to high end system cameras with low sales numbers, high prices and high profit per item. They want to sell system bodies and then carry on for a few more years selling various lenses to the same customer.
When hooked with a lens collection the customer is less likely to stray away to a different system - though that may not be a truism for the US market as there seems to be massive amount of customer system changes happening as seen in these forums.
tbcass
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That link says compact sales remain flat which to me means steady, not collapsing. That was in 2021 when parts were hard to get. Maybe in 2022 sales are up.
Guy Parsons
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No evidence as we are not privy to true sales figures from all or any camera makers.Out of curiosity do you have any evidence that the sales of Sony's 1" compact and bridge cameras have collapsed? Maybe they have but if so wouldn't an RX10 M5 revive sales?It's best to set expectations very low, then there may be a pleasant surprise one day.
Basically the likelihood of RX10M5 is very low as compact and bridge camera sales in general collapse and makers move to high end system cameras with low sales numbers, high prices and high profit per item. They want to sell system bodies and then carry on for a few more years selling various lenses to the same customer.
When hooked with a lens collection the customer is less likely to stray away to a different system - though that may not be a truism for the US market as there seems to be massive amount of customer system changes happening as seen in these forums.
As the smartphone camera ability improves and grabs the market from the bottom end, and the features and attractions of upper end system camera grabs the top end, all the middle ground has lost sales.
Plus of course Covid travel restrictions and general travel is still constrained to some extent so the need for a new camera for many has fallen away. The cruise ships that used to attract many are still having problems, like a cruise from Sydney with a few thousand on board has plenty catching Covid, the cruises are still the mobile giant Petri dishes for spreading disease. https://www.sbs.com.au/language/eng...dney-fourth-wave-may-peak-next-week/li8f7z5nz
Sure a new RX10M5 would revive sales but sales are generally at such a low level it may look like a dead cat bounce.
It just stands to reason that the bridge and compact cameras have a hard time selling their products. Only the outstanding quality ones may sell but will always be at an outstanding price which limits the sales. As sales shrink the expensive R&D cost is spread across the fewer items sold so they have to be much more expensive, and that makes them harder to sell.
Guy Parsons
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After a Covid stall in sales there will of course be some pickup. As people find the limits or awkwardness of smartphones for photography then there may be some more sales of upper end cameras - but it will never ever return to the magic days of 2010 when sales were phenomenal.
Guy Parsons
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Posted that one too soon, I need to add another paragraph.
Sales of course will settle down to possibly what they were before the hot rush of digital every day a new camera advance of the early digital days. Cameras from up to 10 years old are still fit for purpose so sales to people who still want or need to use cameras have slowed.
Sales of course will settle down to possibly what they were before the hot rush of digital every day a new camera advance of the early digital days. Cameras from up to 10 years old are still fit for purpose so sales to people who still want or need to use cameras have slowed.
tbcass
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Again you don't know that RX10iv sales are at a generally low level. The RX10iv is unsurpassed in its class so while other Bridge cameras may not be selling well the RX10iv could very well be.
Guy Parsons
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But overall there seems to be less people buying cameras of any type, so it's a reasonable assumption that the RX10M4 sales are also lower and slower than they used to be. Only by getting honest answers from major camera stores we may be able to get some idea of what is happening. Good luck with that.
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