A7R V wow

I don’t understand, you bought a high end camera but you don’t know about F-stops?
your question is more photo technology (how to make a photo) related and has nothing to do with the focus quality of the camera.

enjoy your beautiful camera and I suggest you to buy a book about photography in general, the basics.
My question is specifically about subject recognition in this new camera and if it is possible to make it more flexible or not. No need to be snarky.
 
how good is it really at discerning etc
There are quite a few settings for AF, tracking, recognition, etc. With all of the settings in the middle of the ranges (defaults), and "human" tracking, it is very, very good. As a face you are tracking gets obscured by other activity in the frame (or the head turns away), it snaps back when the face reappears. Other faces don't seem to interfere with the face you are tracking. I am using BBF, with separate buttons for AF and subject recognition. Disclaimer: I am not convinced that my custom setup is what I intended— there are a lot of options! But at worst (my setting are stupid), it works better than anything on any camera I have ever used.

I have not tried registering a face, where (purportedly) it will stick to just that face.
 
I don’t understand, you bought a high end camera but you don’t know about F-stops?
your question is more photo technology (how to make a photo) related and has nothing to do with the focus quality of the camera.

enjoy your beautiful camera and I suggest you to buy a book about photography in general, the basics.
My question is specifically about subject recognition in this new camera and if it is possible to make it more flexible or not. No need to be snarky.
At 50mm f1.2 you have such a shallow dof its unlikely with eye detection on the human much else is in focus if you are fairly close! If you are further away, then better you have a better chance. You mentioned earlier you also had the 24mm 1.4 too, have you given that a whirl too and also use the aps-c mode as well, that would provide 26mp image and 36 f2.1 on the 24mm and provide more dof wide open.

Personally, if you bought the camera for very low light ie 24 1.4/50 1.2, cool, but apart from that you do realise that with 50 1.2 in natural light and even the 24 1.4, ie outdoors on a bright/sunny day it might not actually be possible to gain an exposure on the a7r5 @ 1.2/1,4 without nd's?
 
I don’t understand, you bought a high end camera but you don’t know about F-stops?
your question is more photo technology (how to make a photo) related and has nothing to do with the focus quality of the camera.

enjoy your beautiful camera and I suggest you to buy a book about photography in general, the basics.
My question is specifically about subject recognition in this new camera and if it is possible to make it more flexible or not. No need to be snarky.
At 50mm f1.2 you have such a shallow dof its unlikely with eye detection on the human much else is in focus if you are fairly close! If you are further away, then better you have a better chance. You mentioned earlier you also had the 24mm 1.4 too, have you given that a whirl too and also use the aps-c mode as well, that would provide 26mp image and 36 f2.1 on the 24mm and provide more dof wide open.

Personally, if you bought the camera for very low light ie 24 1.4/50 1.2, cool, but apart from that you do realise that with 50 1.2 in natural light and even the 24 1.4, ie outdoors on a bright/sunny day it might not actually be possible to gain an exposure on the a7r5 @ 1.2/1,4 without nd's?
Thank you! I had also tried at F4 still with no luck. Will take your great advice about apc mode.
 
how good is it really at discerning etc
There are quite a few settings for AF, tracking, recognition, etc. With all of the settings in the middle of the ranges (defaults), and "human" tracking, it is very, very good. As a face you are tracking gets obscured by other activity in the frame (or the head turns away), it snaps back when the face reappears. Other faces don't seem to interfere with the face you are tracking. I am using BBF, with separate buttons for AF and subject recognition. Disclaimer: I am not convinced that my custom setup is what I intended— there are a lot of options! But at worst (my setting are stupid), it works better than anything on any camera I have ever used.

I have not tried registering a face, where (purportedly) it will stick to just that face.
I have had a lot of cameras since 1978...this is the best. For fun you register a face... go to a crowded sports arena and point your camera at the crowd...hey there she is! (I haven't tried it under these conditions ;)) Wedding photographers will love it for bride and groom candids.. I have found bang on the eye sharpness on every shot. In fact there is a real world sharpness to the shots I have not seen before..even on the A7R 4 and a Canon 5DS.
 
I don’t understand, you bought a high end camera but you don’t know about F-stops?
your question is more photo technology (how to make a photo) related and has nothing to do with the focus quality of the camera.

enjoy your beautiful camera and I suggest you to buy a book about photography in general, the basics.
My question is specifically about subject recognition in this new camera and if it is possible to make it more flexible or not. No need to be snarky.
At 50mm f1.2 you have such a shallow dof its unlikely with eye detection on the human much else is in focus if you are fairly close! If you are further away, then better you have a better chance. You mentioned earlier you also had the 24mm 1.4 too, have you given that a whirl too and also use the aps-c mode as well, that would provide 26mp image and 36 f2.1 on the 24mm and provide more dof wide open.

Personally, if you bought the camera for very low light ie 24 1.4/50 1.2, cool, but apart from that you do realise that with 50 1.2 in natural light and even the 24 1.4, ie outdoors on a bright/sunny day it might not actually be possible to gain an exposure on the a7r5 @ 1.2/1,4 without nd's?
Thank you! I had also tried at F4 still with no luck. Will take your great advice about apc mode.
Just to confirm, you should really make the most of that aps-c mode and those two lenses,

24 1.4, 36 f2.1 aps-c and in 4:3 ratio you also have 27 f1.6 and 40mm f2.5

50 1.2, 75 f1.8 aps-c and in 4:3 ratio you also have 56 f1.4 and 84 f2.1

So, basically with two lenses you have chosen you can easily cover;

24, 27, 36, 40, 50, 56, 75, 84, how cool is that :) If Sony added a 5:4 ratio or a 1.25x crop and a 1.4x crop and even a 2x crop we could add a few more too!
 
Honestly, high ISO performance seems a bit underwhelming to me. This is your image at ISO 3200

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And these are images taken at higher ISO with the Leica Q2, which to me look much sharper and with more detail:

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And this ine at ISO 6400 with the a7r3



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"Cannot believe the colours, detail and ease of use. Have to say that shooting in RAW but also at 26MP JPEG (in high contrast B&W in my case) at the same time on the second card slot is a neat feature."

That is becoming my shooting method of choice. Especially if I upgrade to a Sony with two card slots. Hope you also share some shots in the future in Cropped Mode which will also give one 26MP files, RAW. But with the extra reach.
 
For the price of a single Leica body I have what is, for me, the ultimate setup for street, travel, portrait and landscape.
Enjoy your new camera

Myself a Canon user, when I move to mirrorless, Sony will be in the balance together with Canon, but certainly no Leica.. Fun and sexy, but atrocious IQ / Price ratio
 
Nielk Mike je napisal/a:

Iskreno povedano, visoka zmogljivost ISO se mi zdi nekoliko premajhna. To je vaša slika pri ISO 3200

76ae05b842564ef98554e350bc1ebfd8.jpg

In to so slike, posnete pri višji ISO z Leica Q2, ki se mi zdijo veliko ostrejše in z več podrobnostmi:

d02c4e7deb6546bcb53c3cebe3b92249.jpg

4afc9bf2272d454d924d68559e68afb3.jpg

8527c21e56e84269b8d8afe077675def.jpg

In to pri ISO 6400 z a7r3

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Logically, the sharpness of the photo with the average FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS lens is not what you get with the fixed excellent lens on the Q2 at aperture f2. Put a premium 24mm f 1.4 lens on the Sony and then compare….
 
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Nielk Mike je napisal/a:

Iskreno povedano, visoka zmogljivost ISO se mi zdi nekoliko premajhna. To je vaša slika pri ISO 3200

76ae05b842564ef98554e350bc1ebfd8.jpg

In to so slike, posnete pri višji ISO z Leica Q2, ki se mi zdijo veliko ostrejše in z več podrobnostmi:

d02c4e7deb6546bcb53c3cebe3b92249.jpg

4afc9bf2272d454d924d68559e68afb3.jpg

8527c21e56e84269b8d8afe077675def.jpg

In to pri ISO 6400 z a7r3

bc9502ef3c8a4d50905a3dcd25562e2a.jpg
Logically, the sharpness of the photo with the average FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS lens is not what you get with the fixed excellent lens on the Q2 at aperture f2. Put a premium 24mm f 1.4 lens on the Sony and then compare….
You may want to look at the last image, taken with a7r3 and the Sigma 90f2.8.

The point is: Sensor technology is mature. The sensor in the a7r5 is unlikely to surpass previous Sony models in image qualtiy.
 
Honestly, high ISO performance seems a bit underwhelming to me. This is your image at ISO 3200

76ae05b842564ef98554e350bc1ebfd8.jpg

And these are images taken at higher ISO with the Leica Q2, which to me look much sharper and with more detail:

d02c4e7deb6546bcb53c3cebe3b92249.jpg

4afc9bf2272d454d924d68559e68afb3.jpg

8527c21e56e84269b8d8afe077675def.jpg

And this ine at ISO 6400 with the a7r3

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Name the gear and I've probably owned it and used it.

I have to ask whose NR are you using? Those higher ISO shots are amazing and devoid of grain. Shot there they WILL have plenty of grain naturally. What's your secret?
 
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DxO PL6. Export from LR to PL6, apply NR and Lens Correction, then back to LR. Most amazing results with the Q2 and Fuji gear.
 
Illuminated by a weak led light. Shot with a7R2, ISO 6400. But trust me with the new a7RV, I get even more details :-D

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Also don't listen to reviewers and don't be afraid of using the electronic shutter.

EFCS on the a7RV is very good, but if you set the camera in single shot or low burst with electronic shutter, you will get 14-bit RAW, and it will help to get that extra little amount of sharpness because it has less shake.
Could you please clarify this a bit more deeply?! THANKS!!!
 
Also don't listen to reviewers and don't be afraid of using the electronic shutter.

EFCS on the a7RV is very good, but if you set the camera in single shot or low burst with electronic shutter, you will get 14-bit RAW, and it will help to get that extra little amount of sharpness because it has less shake.
Could you please clarify this a bit more deeply?! THANKS!!!
Don't worry about rolling shutter and enjoy the 14-bit RAWs you can get with the a7RV electronic shutter. Since the electronic shutter doesn't involve any mechanical movement you will get sharper results at lower shutter speeds as well.
 
Also don't listen to reviewers and don't be afraid of using the electronic shutter.

EFCS on the a7RV is very good, but if you set the camera in single shot or low burst with electronic shutter, you will get 14-bit RAW, and it will help to get that extra little amount of sharpness because it has less shake.
Could you please clarify this a bit more deeply?! THANKS!!!
Don't worry about rolling shutter and enjoy the 14-bit RAWs you can get with the a7RV electronic shutter. Since the electronic shutter doesn't involve any mechanical movement you will get sharper results at lower shutter speeds as well.
If you're a single shot shooter like me ES is THE way to go. I love not wearing anything out nor hearing the shutter. Here's a 14bit ES shutter shot from today that to me proves it's NO compromise. Rezized of course as the upload here couldn't swallow the full size

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Name the gear and I've probably owned it and used it.
 
Do you know, if the A7iv produces 14Bit RAW as well with the electronic shutter, or are there some limitations to consider?
 
"Cannot believe the colours, detail and ease of use. Have to say that shooting in RAW but also at 26MP JPEG (in high contrast B&W in my case) at the same time on the second card slot is a neat feature."

That is becoming my shooting method of choice. Especially if I upgrade to a Sony with two card slots. Hope you also share some shots in the future in Cropped Mode which will also give one 26MP files, RAW. But with the extra reach.
Could you tell me how to set up shooting colour in raw and BW jpg... Sounds a great idea and have never tried it..
 
"Cannot believe the colours, detail and ease of use. Have to say that shooting in RAW but also at 26MP JPEG (in high contrast B&W in my case) at the same time on the second card slot is a neat feature."

That is becoming my shooting method of choice. Especially if I upgrade to a Sony with two card slots. Hope you also share some shots in the future in Cropped Mode which will also give one 26MP files, RAW. But with the extra reach.
Could you tell me how to set up shooting colour in raw and BW jpg... Sounds a great idea and have never tried it..
It is in the file storage settings. I choose card one for RAW at full quality and card two for jpg at a smaller size. Then simply choose the jpg filter you want (portrait, vivid, b&w etc) and that’s that. I tweaked the contrast and sharpness on b&w to make it a little closer to the Ricoh GR settings I like.
 

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