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PC is on it's last leg, to Apple or not?

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Hoxton Bridge said:
tbcass said:
Tom_N said:
tbcass said:
I wouldn't say "most people" because they are not #1 in total sales of smartphones or computers. For example, Apple's market share for computers in 2021 was only 8% and their smartphone market share is about 13-15%.
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Apple makes about 80% of the profits in the smartphone industry.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...al-smartphone-profits-and-the-lead-is-growing
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That's irrelevant. I was responding to this statement; "Don't get me wrong I dislike Apple's repair policy, but not enough that I will not consume their products - like most people. Profits are a totally different issue. Apple overcharges its customers so much that they make huge profits off a small number of sales.
Hoxton Bridge said:
In terms of unit sales, one article says that Apple is #4 in the laptop market and was the only vendor (among the top 7) to post unit sales gains in a declining laptop market.

https://news.strategyanalytics.com/...-Q3-2022-says-Strategy-Analytics/default.aspx
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Again irrelevant because they are number 4 amongst a large number of PC makers. Only Apple produces Apple products. Numbers don't lie.
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I think I was perhaps unclear. I did not mean most people who buy computers, I meant those who buy Apple products... I hope that clears up any misleading inferences.
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Yes, that clears it up.
 
Ironically, none of my Dell Optiplex desktops at work can run Windows 11, having older generation CPUs, and most of them were “new” this spring, before I started working there; also, they all have hard drives and not SSDs.
 
Tom_N said:
Victor Engel said:
Tom_N said:
I guess that the EU could force Apple to substitute USB-C to USB-C charging cables for the USB-C to MagSafe 3 ones. An increase in standalone sales of USB-C to MagSafe 3 charging cables would probably soon follow.
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USB-C to MagSafe 3 is not required. You can simply plug in directly to one of the USB-C ports if you'd rather not use a Magsafe 3 connector. The Magsafe 3 option, though, gives you a faster charging.
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With respect to faster charging …

The version of USB Power Delivery that the MBPs implement, and that the EU directive seems to reference, allows for a maximum of 100 watts of charging power. The 14" MBPs can "fast charge" with 100 watts, but the 16" MBPs need more than 100 watts to "fast charge". Using Apple's 140 watt brick, and MagSafe 3, lets them get it.

To be clear: The 16" MBPs will charge over USB-C … but only at regular speed.

There's a new version of the USB Power Delivery specification that allows for delivering up to 240 watts. It involves negotiating the use of new, higher voltages. It would be logical for future revisions of the 16" MBP to take advantage of this new Power Delivery specification.
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Assuming the laptops are updated as you suggest, I would still use the magsafe charging option since it's so much more convenient.
 
PieterB said:
I need a powerful laptop because I create digital content and slow devices give me acid burn and a heart attack and on a more serious note, they slow down my work.
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It can be difficult for someone to explain how stressful it is to be constantly waiting for the computer when you have work you need to finish.
 
ThrillaMozilla said:
And now Dell or Microsoft has disabled Linux on that computer, so it will require some heavy-duty hacking.
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Have you read up on legacy vs UEFI BIOS? That might be your issue. I've had to fiddle with it on some laptops to get a Linux LiveUSB to boot, but once straightened out, I was off to the races.

Aaron

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dmanthree said:
Market share has nothing to do with reliability. And I use both, Macs and Windows machines. If you can find something showing me that Windows PCs are more reliable, let's see it.
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PC's were more reliable than Macs in 2020, 2019, and 2018.

https://www.rescuecom.com/news-pres...ay-rescuecom-computer-reliability-report.aspx

https://www.rescuecom.com/news-pres...2019-holiday-computer-reliability-report.aspx

https://www.rescuecom.com/news-pres...2018-holiday-computer-reliability-report.aspx

Apple was #1 in 2017.

https://www.rescuecom.com/news-press-releases/rescuecom-annual-2017-computer-reliability-report.aspx
 
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dmanthree said:
Apple is the top rated brand for reliability. There's lots of data on this. If you had Apples breaking at the same rate as PCs, your IT department didn't know what they were doing. A typical example of brand reliability:
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Yes, but you have to remember that only Apple builds their own hardware. Anyone can start a company and begin making Windows computers, and quality obviously will vary. Hardware reliability is a function of the PC manufacturer, not Windows.

Actually, IMHO it's an argument in Windows' favor. Microsoft writes the OS and has literally no control over (or perhaps even idea about) which hardware the system will run on. It's a miracle it boots at all. Apple controls all the hardware, software, firmware and drivers. The computers should work perfectly with no bugs and no need for updates. And yet...

Aaron
 
bjn70 said:
bjn70 said:
I need a powerful laptop because I create digital content and slow devices give me acid burn and a heart attack and on a more serious note, they slow down my work.
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It can be difficult for someone to explain how stressful it is to be constantly waiting for the computer when you have work you need to finish.
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I have seen another version of that comic strip.

"GitHub is down" - oh carry on then :-)
 
OK so here's a story from a coworker. When he was in engineering school he had an original IBM PC and a Fortran compiler. At the end of the semester he and a couple of other students were writing an engineering analysis program for a class project. It would take almost an hour to compile the program, run the test problem and check the results. They would find what they thought were errors and go through another compile cycle. Leading up to the class deadline their unit of time was not hours and minutes, it was compile cycles- how many times can we compile and test this program before the deadline?
 
545Moose said:
Currently running a desktop that Photoshop is taking through the ringer when trying to do any photo post-processing... I'm almost embarrassed to list its specs lol. I plan to get a laptop next and run my dual monitors for normal things, and for PS, but is there a viable Windows solution, or all Apple?

So the question begs, what next. I have been wanting a MacBook a while but I'm hesitant. Windows/Linux user all day long at work, but love my gf's MacBook. I would go certified-Apple refurb, but for the same say $2500 +/- I could get a brand new Dell Precision 5570 laptop that I have for work; 32GB memory, super nice. The question is, how's it going to hold up in 3-4 years time vs Apple? I kind of know that answer already, but more looking to see if there are viable Windows alternatives I'm overlooking, otherwise it's i7/i9 refurb 32GB minimum, and let the shopping begin.
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The new MacBooks with the M processor are fast, have a long battery runtime, and are designed for media work. With an external monitor they are hard to beat for photographers. I used one for some time. They are designed for power users, so be prepared for a learning curve.

This said, I decided against Apple. One reason is that I have a desktop gaming computer where I do my photography work and, yes, gaming. It is running Windows 11, and does it well. The MacBook proved to be incompatible and a closed world. I could not even read one of my backup drives. Now, I have an Asus ZenBook for travelling and sofa, and I am happy with it.
 
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545Moose said:
Currently running a desktop that Photoshop is taking through the ringer when trying to do any photo post-processing... I'm almost embarrassed to list its specs lol. I plan to get a laptop next and run my dual monitors for normal things, and for PS, but is there a viable Windows solution, or all Apple?

So the question begs, what next. I have been wanting a MacBook a while but I'm hesitant. Windows/Linux user all day long at work, but love my gf's MacBook. I would go certified-Apple refurb, but for the same say $2500 +/- I could get a brand new Dell Precision 5570 laptop that I have for work; 32GB memory, super nice. The question is, how's it going to hold up in 3-4 years time vs Apple? I kind of know that answer already, but more looking to see if there are viable Windows alternatives I'm overlooking, otherwise it's i7/i9 refurb 32GB minimum, and let the shopping begin.
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If you want to become a prisoner of the shrink-wrapped, custom-connector, expensive Apple gulag, go ahead.

Or choose your own system configuration and remain free and self-actualized.

It's your life.
 
Chris Noble said:
545Moose said:
Currently running a desktop that Photoshop is taking through the ringer when trying to do any photo post-processing... I'm almost embarrassed to list its specs lol. I plan to get a laptop next and run my dual monitors for normal things, and for PS, but is there a viable Windows solution, or all Apple?

So the question begs, what next. I have been wanting a MacBook a while but I'm hesitant. Windows/Linux user all day long at work, but love my gf's MacBook. I would go certified-Apple refurb, but for the same say $2500 +/- I could get a brand new Dell Precision 5570 laptop that I have for work; 32GB memory, super nice. The question is, how's it going to hold up in 3-4 years time vs Apple? I kind of know that answer already, but more looking to see if there are viable Windows alternatives I'm overlooking, otherwise it's i7/i9 refurb 32GB minimum, and let the shopping begin.
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If you want to become a prisoner of the shrink-wrapped, custom-connector, expensive Apple gulag, go ahead.

Or choose your own system configuration and remain free and self-actualized.

It's your life.
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True, I'm the prisoner of a very stable Unix-based OS, long battery life, no performance penalty for using batteries, excellent screens and ergonomics, etc. Yes, the struggle is real.

:-P
 
dmanthree said:
AcquiredTaste said:
dmanthree said:
Use what you want. But I've yet to see any real data showing PCs are more reliable. Anyway, I think this has been beaten to death. Outa here...
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You haven't found any data supporting the reverse, either. Neither exists.
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There's LOTS of sources out there. Apparently, YOU haven't looked very hard.

https://computertechnicians.com.au/which-laptop-brands-are-most-reliable-in-2022/
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lol. That's not research, that's marketing. Try again.
 
TonyGN10 said:
tbcass said:
TonyGN10 said:
Strobist said:
Mac Users Deserve Better – 7 Unacceptable Problems with MacOS - YouTube

Your welcome ;-)
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"Unacceptable" - screams a real clickbait YT title. IMO - this video just highlights 7 pretty minor issues.
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One person's minor issue is another's deal breaker.
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That could be true. And of course I think they are minor issues (and btw so did Strobist - see his reply to mine). Out of interest, would any of these seven “unacceptable problems” be a deal breaker for you?
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Of course, minor issues can turn into major issues. I remember at work years ago when one of our computers which had a 40 MB hard drive (sort of dates the issue - most of the computers in the office had only 20MB HDs), started getting bad spots on the HD. There was a bad spot table where bad spots were mapped.

Occasional bad spots were a minor issue, and the OS took care of that for us, but one day, the bad spot table ran out of space. Whoops!
 
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