Affinity Photo v2

IanYorke said:

WhistlerNorth said:

Gather that for most the basic program Affinity 2 photo is what most would use—- I see it is on sale for $56.99 CDN. I have Adobe PS Elements 2022 which is non subscription so where in my work flow would I use thisAffinity 2 program. I also have the Topaz bundle including A1 Photo which was free add one as had other bundle already. Looking at paying for annual upgrade bundle on sale for Black Friday. Would Affinity 2 be redundant in my case?

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AP2 editing functions are similar to PS. Elements has a reduced editing capability compared to AP2 but you may not need the extra functionality which I believe, is largely in 16bit edits.

If Serif continue with how they operated with AP V1 then you will get several years of free updates rather than having to pay each year if you want the latest version.

Costs in the UK currently are AP2 - £37 vs Elements for £86.

My personal experience I bought AP V1 in 2016 for around £30 and have upgraded to V2.

6 Years of AP V1 works out to £5 per year, that's a pretty good deal and I am happy to support Serif.

Ian

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IanYorke said:

My personal experience I bought AP V1 in 2016 for around £30 and have upgraded to V2.

6 Years of AP V1 works out to £5 per year, that's a pretty good deal and I am happy to support Serif.

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[QUOTE="WhistlerNorth said:

IanYorke, post: 66631773, member: 1929366"]AP2 editing functions are similar to PS. Elements has a reduced editing capability compared to AP2 but you may not need the extra functionality which I believe, is largely in 16bit edits.

If Serif continue with how they operated with AP V1 then you will get several years of free updates rather than having to pay each year if you want the latest version.

Costs in the UK currently are AP2 - £37 vs Elements for £86.

My personal experience I bought AP V1 in 2016 for around £30 and have upgraded to V2.

6 Years of AP V1 works out to £5 per year, that's a pretty good deal and I am happy to support Serif.

Ian

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WhistlerNorth said:

WhistlerNorth said:

IanYorke said:

AP2 editing functions are similar to PS. Elements has a reduced editing capability compared to AP2 but you may not need the extra functionality which I believe, is largely in 16bit edits.

If Serif continue with how they operated with AP V1 then you will get several years of free updates rather than having to pay each year if you want the latest version.

Costs in the UK currently are AP2 - £37 vs Elements for £86.

My personal experience I bought AP V1 in 2016 for around £30 and have upgraded to V2.

6 Years of AP V1 works out to £5 per year, that's a pretty good deal and I am happy to support Serif.

Ian

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I do not even know what a 16 bit edit is, excuse my lack of knowledge. Maybe this indicates the extent to how I use it as just a hobbyist.

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So I looked 16bit edit up and it is talking about jpegs being handled only 8 bit in PS. I shoot almost always in raw so not an issue there. I may try the Affinity Photo V2 trial. I just am so familiar with the work flow in Adobe.

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jfriend00 said:

IanYorke said:

My personal experience I bought AP V1 in 2016 for around £30 and have upgraded to V2.

6 Years of AP V1 works out to £5 per year, that's a pretty good deal and I am happy to support Serif.

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This is my sentiment also. I don't use AP a lot, but when I do need a pixel editor it has way more capabilities than I need. And, because the company offers such good value for the money, I'm more than happy to support them by upgrading to AP2.

Now, compare this thought process to other companies who try to extract 3x or 4x the money every single year for an upgrade - well I have a completely different purchase mentality with them - requiring them to prove to me that their upgrades are worth it (because they're expensive).

I sure hope that Affinity's high bang for the buck model works for the long run because, as a consumer, I sure like it.

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John

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DannH said:

jfriend00 said:

IanYorke said:

My personal experience I bought AP V1 in 2016 for around £30 and have upgraded to V2.

6 Years of AP V1 works out to £5 per year, that's a pretty good deal and I am happy to support Serif.

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This is my sentiment also. I don't use AP a lot, but when I do need a pixel editor it has way more capabilities than I need. And, because the company offers such good value for the money, I'm more than happy to support them by upgrading to AP2.

Now, compare this thought process to other companies who try to extract 3x or 4x the money every single year for an upgrade - well I have a completely different purchase mentality with them - requiring them to prove to me that their upgrades are worth it (because they're expensive).

I sure hope that Affinity's high bang for the buck model works for the long run because, as a consumer, I sure like it.

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My thoughts are the same.

I decided to upgrade to AP2. After using the trial version I'm not sure I gain much for my workflow.

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DannH said:

But at £36 it's a bargain and a great piece of software, other leading companies would charge at least 5 times the price.

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Digital Nigel said:

Photato said:

Digital Nigel said:

Serif tweet: We’re pleased to let you know we have decided to run the 40% off launch offer until 14th December to give those who have taken a 30-day trial time to use it before the offer expires.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1592139975918690305

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Thank you.

I was going to ask this question, now I know since I’m still on the fence to buy it.

I’ve been using Photoshop CS6 for 10 years now, but is getting long in the tooth, although still surprisingly functional.

AP, have modern tools like editing 360 Spherical, updated Raw support which are lacking in PS CS6. But I’d hate to go through the learning curve of another software with lots of overlap functionality

Despite the 10 years gap, I think PS content aware removal tool still remains superior, it lets you work with selections which is more precise instead of brushes.

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So does Affinity, which gives you both options.

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Photato said:

Digital Nigel said:

Photato said:

Digital Nigel said:

Serif tweet: We’re pleased to let you know we have decided to run the 40% off launch offer until 14th December to give those who have taken a 30-day trial time to use it before the offer expires.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1592139975918690305

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Thank you.

I was going to ask this question, now I know since I’m still on the fence to buy it.

I’ve been using Photoshop CS6 for 10 years now, but is getting long in the tooth, although still surprisingly functional.

AP, have modern tools like editing 360 Spherical, updated Raw support which are lacking in PS CS6. But I’d hate to go through the learning curve of another software with lots of overlap functionality

Despite the 10 years gap, I think PS content aware removal tool still remains superior, it lets you work with selections which is more precise instead of brushes.

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So does Affinity, which gives you both options.

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I made my mind after looking at all the features.
It is totally worth it, in my case just for HDR Raw Stitching and 360 Photo, GPU Raw etc.
It'll complement some features lacking in PS CS6.
Hope one day it can become my only photo editing work horse.

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Digital Nigel said:

I think there are people here who own PS CS6, but regard AP as a full replacement, and no longer even keep CS6 installed.

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James Ritson said:

James Ritson said:

Watched the video. So they didn't change anything to how RAW files are handled? That is a shame, because that is my main gripe with Affinity. I use C1, but sometimes it's handy to be able to develop in Affinity (eg. when a file is not supported by C1.) As it stands, RAW development is so poor in Affinity that it is next to unusable.

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No, our Develop Persona is still the same with some minor tweaks under the hood. What do you find poor about the development quality? I generally use it to 'shape' an image and then take the editing further non-destructively with layers: it doesn't add any sharpening by default, so images look unsharp, but that is their natural appearance (at least with the demosaicing method we implemented). If you ever look at the basic demosaiced RAW image using something like FastRawViewer, it will corroborate this, especially since you can use the J key to quickly toggle between RAW and JPEG versions and see the difference in sharpness and noise.

There is optional sharpening on the Details panel you can use, but we've chosen to let the user decide exactly how they want to sharpen their final image. I usually do my sharpening as a final step, typically using stacked high pass filters with a Soft Light blend mode, as it produces a really nice fine detail sharpening without looking too exaggerated or overcooked. You can record these operations using macros so it's not a time-consuming process.

James Ritson said:

James Ritson said:

If you choose to embed the RAW data, that will increase your document file size, but you can set it to linked to mitigate this.

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Are these saved as DNG?

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No, a copy of the RAW data will be serialised and stored internally within the document. If the user chooses linked, then it will find and re-load the RAW file from its original file path when re-developing (if the file is not present, the user will be prompted to locate it).

Thanks,
James

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Photato said:

Can Affinity quickly extract the embedded JPEGs from raw files ?

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Photato said:

There is a free utility for PC which I love, now abandoned, called DropRaw.
Basically, you drag-&-drop a bunch of raw files and in a matter of seconds! will extract the embedded JPEGs from hundreds of Raw files which all camera produce.

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CAcreeks said:

Photato said:

Can Affinity quickly extract the embedded JPEGs from raw files ?

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I don't know. If so, it's not evident from https://affinity.help/photo documentation.

CAcreeks said:

There is a free utility for PC which I love, now abandoned, called DropRaw.
Basically, you drag-&-drop a bunch of raw files and in a matter of seconds! will extract the embedded JPEGs from hundreds of Raw files which all camera produce.

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There is also open-source (runs on all platforms) exiv2 -ep from the command line.

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Photato said:

CAcreeks said:

Photato said:

Can Affinity quickly extract the embedded JPEGs from raw files ?

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I don't know. If so, it's not evident from https://affinity.help/photo documentation.

Photato said:

There is a free utility for PC which I love, now abandoned, called DropRaw.
Basically, you drag-&-drop a bunch of raw files and in a matter of seconds! will extract the embedded JPEGs from hundreds of Raw files which all camera produce.

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There is also open-source (runs on all platforms) exiv2 -ep from the command line.

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Good to know, yes similar idea.
The app I was referring to is named RawDrop, wish AP had that functionality, it shouldn't be complicated to implement since it is just a file extraction.

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Night Pixel said:

Photato said:

CAcreeks said:

Photato said:

Can Affinity quickly extract the embedded JPEGs from raw files ?

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I don't know. If so, it's not evident from https://affinity.help/photo documentation.

Night Pixel said:

There is a free utility for PC which I love, now abandoned, called DropRaw.
Basically, you drag-&-drop a bunch of raw files and in a matter of seconds! will extract the embedded JPEGs from hundreds of Raw files which all camera produce.

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There is also open-source (runs on all platforms) exiv2 -ep from the command line.

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Good to know, yes similar idea.
The app I was referring to is named RawDrop, wish AP had that functionality, it shouldn't be complicated to implement since it is just a file extraction.

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ERawP works on Mac, Win and Linux

RawP extracts the embedded previews from raw files and saves them in separate files. It can be useful if you need a reasonable approximation of the images and you do not want to spend time developing all the files. For example you might want to send the images to a friend by e-mail.

ERawP is available for Mac OS X, Linux and Windows. It does not require installation: just run the executable. It means that you can safely try it and it will not change your computer in any way, except for a couple of settings stored from session to session. For convenience the Windows version is also available as an installer, but it simply adds a menu entry to make its usage simpler.

This program is freeware: you can use it for free but the source code is not available.

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Photato said:

Can Affinity quickly extract the embedded JPEGs from raw files ?
There is a free utility for PC which I love, now abandoned, called DropRaw.
Basically, you drag-&-drop a bunch of raw files and in a matter of seconds! will extract the embedded JPEGs from hundreds of Raw files which all camera produce.

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RawPreviewExtractor

The program RawPreviewExtractor is intended to extract the JPEG previews contained in RAW files: All RAW formats that have JPEG previews are supported. The preview is extracted “as-is”: same image size. It is possible to copy EXIF data from original RAW to the destination JPEG. Only JPEG...

www.fastrawviewer.com