We don't know for a FACT that Canon won't allow third Party Lens since we have NOT heard from all the parties involved to make that some definitive Fact. Regardless, there are plenty of Camera Gear users that Never move beyond their Kit Lens. There are plenty of Camera Gear users that really don't care nearly as much about third Party Lens as some continually suggest, regardless of Brand.
Yeah but at least for now Canon are not allowing third party lenses; we know this from what occurred with Viltrox and the comments they made, and also from the statement from Canon Germany. It is true that we don't know for a fact that they'll never allow 3rd party lenses, in fact they may very well allow it eventually, but I wouldn't bet on it in the near future.
As for users never moving beyond their kit lens...ok I guess? But this discussion isn't about those users really? It's about users that will be put off by the lack of third party options and there will be a sizable amount of them I think...especially in this price range. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that the amount of people buying an R6II and never moving past the kit lens would be pretty small. If we're talking about an entry level APSC camera then that's a different story.
Camera gear is the entire Package, not just the Lens. Which is why Canon has still done very well in mirrorless in spite of still being the process of ending their massive legacy of their DSLR lineup.
Ending their massive legacy of DSLR lineup is irrelevant IMO, Nikon's had to do it whilst releasing Z mount and even Sony transitioned from A mount to E mount, there's nothing remarkable about it.
Erm as for evaluating the entire package that's a bit more complex. The R6, R6II are definitely impressive cameras for the price, though the R6II is less so in the UK because it's approaching £3000 here.
The R5 is impressive too and from what I've seen the overheating in video has been greatly reduced thanks to firmware updates which is excellent if true.
The R3 is alright but let me use the US pricing for this one; it's $5,999 from BHPhoto, the A1 is $6,498 the Z9 is $5,496. For value the Nikon smokes both let's be honest. But the R3 is only $500 less than the A1 but has half the megapixel count? I wouldn't call the R3 great value for money, but it's a good camera.
As for the lenses, well if you've got deep pockets then they are stellar. The 1.2 L lenses are beautiful, the 70-200 is very impressive (though no TC option? That hurts a bit) . So for sure, there'll be a good subset of users that can get the L lenses and they'll no doubt enjoy using Canon.
People with a large catalogue of EF lenses, they're set too,
Those entering with a modest budget and no EF lenses already, it's a little bit of a sticky one. I think you can get far better value options on FE mount, L mount and even Z mount (28-75 2.8, the properly featured 1.8 lenses, soon to be released 70-180 2.8).
Overall I hesitate to say Canon have done very well with the RF mount. I think they've done well but they really need to flesh out the more inexpensive offerings and they honestly need to start offering better non-L lenses (no weather resistance, noisy STMs and no lens hood is a bit insulting tbh especially in this day and age).
The next 12 months should go a long way towards showing just how well the Canon vs Sony lineup is doing. There is this massive divide between those that tout MP and those that don't. Which maybe why as of now, Fuji has the top two ILC on Amazons top selling mirrorless list. Their Black or Silver, FUJIFILM X-T5 Mirrorless Camera. 40MP
The Sony a7R V Mirrorless Camera might have currently replaced the Sony a7 IV Mirrorless Camera possibly as their best selling camera which apparently, for quite a while, mostly leading in sales compared to Canons R5 and R6 or any other Sony FF camera. But both Canon apparently have also done well, sales wise.
My top two picks this year so far for overall value and price are the Sony a7R V and the Canon EOS R6 Mark II, only if the initial reviews hold up as we move forward. I also look forward to what the next Fujifilm X Pro will bring to the table. Those are currently my top potential upgrade paths for me, personally. I would have to compromise something regarding either pick since I certainly won't be getting more than 1. The least thing I am concerned about is the Third Party Lens offering of either.
I'll have to be honest and this probably isn't popular to say here but the Canon R5 still competes well with the A7RV, I think overheating aside the R5 is a very very solid camera.
As for third party lens offerings, again I mean if it doesn't bother you then there's not really any point arguing, because your needs have been met and the Canon cameras are good so definitely enjoy them. But the point is that it will bother a lot of people, I don't think unreasonably so.
, which is 1.200€ more than you should pay for the GM lens (street price, 1529€)
