I Spent $10K on DSLR, or just buy a Pixel 7 Pro

CNET wrote this interesting articles.

They have companion Slider allow U to see the visual differences.

007peter said:

CNET wrote this interesting articles.

They have companion Slider allow U to see the visual differences.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/i-spent-10k-on-dslr-camera-gear-but-you-can-just-buy-a-pixel-7-pro/

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i find all the dslr pics look better even though its just thumbnail size comparison. The only one that looked better in the tiny comparison that from the pixel was the night shot.

Depends on who you ask. To most here on dpr, the camera wins, but ask anybody out on the street or your uncle Bill or Sister in law that looks at photos on facebook, and they probably might pick one or the other of any given example with no idea which came from which. It won't be the pixel peeping image quality that causes the general public to choose one over the other. It's comparisons like these that make it easy to understand that the camera manufacturers better take notice of the smartphone competition out there today. Couple the phone image quality with the cost of the high end FF mirrorless stuff that camera manufacturers are concentrating their development and marketing dollars on and easy to see where the general public camera dollars are going when they are almost 100% going to own a phone anyway. Hope there are enough pros and well heeled enthusiasts out there to keep the camera mfgs going because that's their only market for the largest portion of what they are offering today.

Bob A L said:

.... Hope there are enough pros and well heeled enthusiasts out there to keep the camera mfgs going because that's their only market for the largest portion of what they are offering today.

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I'm not sure I would feel that way. Would be like hoping for the vinyl records to come back. Square meters of space occupied by music you can only use at home, as opposed to all the music of the world in your pocket, wherever you are.

teemodk said:

Bob A L said:

.... Hope there are enough pros and well heeled enthusiasts out there to keep the camera mfgs going because that's their only market for the largest portion of what they are offering today.

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I'm not sure I would feel that way. Would be like hoping for the vinyl records to come back. Square meters of space occupied by music you can only use at home, as opposed to all the music of the world in your pocket, wherever you are.

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You mean you would rather just see the whole dedicated camera industry die? With only pros to keep it above water, it's gonna be tough to survive. If they don't get their ducks in a row, I see a tough road ahead for the mfgs.

Bob A L said:

teemodk said:

Bob A L said:

.... Hope there are enough pros and well heeled enthusiasts out there to keep the camera mfgs going because that's their only market for the largest portion of what they are offering today.

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I'm not sure I would feel that way. Would be like hoping for the vinyl records to come back. Square meters of space occupied by music you can only use at home, as opposed to all the music of the world in your pocket, wherever you are.

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You mean you would rather just see the whole dedicated camera industry die? With only pros to keep it above water, it's gonna be tough to survive. If they don't get their ducks in a row, I see a tough road ahead for the mfgs.

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No not like that, I'm just not going to cry about it.

Bob A L said:

You mean you would rather just see the whole dedicated camera industry die? With only pros to keep it above water, it's gonna be tough to survive. If they don't get their ducks in a row, I see a tough road ahead for the mfgs.

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I like camera so I definitely don't want to see it died. Having said that I would argue that "average Joe - myself included" never really want a dedicated camera in the 1st place. I'll used myself as an example:

I'd never really care to spend big money on a big dslr, I prefer smaller pocketable point/shoot back in 2006. Sadly there are 2 major problems that p/s cannot solve

• Horrible Low-light noisy sensor
• Lack of DoF

Thus, I feel somewhat "forced" into buying a dslr setup to address those 2 problems. But today in 2022, most Smartphone comes with Amazing Night Mode that can stitches 27 multiple images (in fraction of a second) into a single SHARP lowlights images without noise. Then 7 generational Computational Bokeh (since Iphone 7) has now gotten quite realistic without 1st generational border bleeding.

Had Pixel 7 been available back in 2006, I would have never bother with dslr in the 1st place. Which is also why GenZ & Millennial avoid buying expensive dedicated camera today.

My major complaint is that Japanese camera makers are committing suicide pricing entry mirrorless (Canon R10/NikonZ30) around a high $1000.

This will not only deter young people from buying into a dedicated camera system (but) will also push them toward the less costly but far more capable $799 Iphone 14, or even a cheap $449 Pixel 6a. I think Japanese should consider making a cheap $500 lost leader camera to entice young generation. Otherwise, entire Boomer/ GenXer market is about to disappear

Exactly what I am saying. I believe camera manufacturers are doing themselves in and if they don't come around some of them are not going to make it very long.

From the dog face photo i can see how bad the pixel 7 Pro really is. On the Canon photo the single strain of hair is 3 times thinner. So smartphone sensor and lens really has poor resolution.

teemodk said:

Bob A L said:

.... Hope there are enough pros and well heeled enthusiasts out there to keep the camera mfgs going because that's their only market for the largest portion of what they are offering today.

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I'm not sure I would feel that way. Would be like hoping for the vinyl records to come back. Square meters of space occupied by music you can only use at home, as opposed to all the music of the world in your pocket, wherever you are.

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Vinyl records have come back big time. 2nd most popular way to listen to music these days after streaming. . CD's are 3rd.