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Cooling The GoPro 10?
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Choosing a non-optimal frame rate and resolution - compromising image quality - to avoid overheating is not a solution. Common sense.
I use the GoPro action cameras, for action. in some cases such as comparing precise driving line, time slips, engine tunes (via the accelerometers, GPS etc) just the LRV files (DVD quality) are more than enough. So no I'm am not devastated and inconsolable if I run 4K instead of 5.3K along with the LRVs for 5 - 45 minute session mostly in NC heat. I simply take basic steps to use the cars, cameras etc within their limits for that use and the present conditions.
I'm not doing cinematic pixel peeping, moreso the paralysis-of-analysis peeping is at the data so as to be able to find course time improvement. Different use than some using the camera for mostly NON-action, stating they jogged and the GPS rocked etc. Way different use, that's all, hope that you can realize that some actually do action activities with these lil wonders. For your use 10 hz GPS is way more than needed, for some others the drop from the prior 18hz is a concern.
If I leave my multimeter in direct sunlight for say 15 minutes, the LCD overheats...so I don't do that so that I can use the device for it's purpose. Same with my iPhone, those overheat easily too, and faster than GoPro screens do. Shrug you just deal with stuff in motorsports, solve issues and onto the next.
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Your action cam use is really interesting, and I can see that in those extreme conditions why video quality may be a secondary concern. Your previous assertions made it seem like your solutions would apply to everyone. It is clear that your necessary compromises apply to your needs, just like your GPS concern over 18 versus 10, which evidently only matters to your use case. Now it is transparent that you are talking about your very special use only.
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I use the GoPro action cameras, for action. in some cases such as comparing precise driving line, time slips, engine tunes (via the accelerometers, GPS etc) just the LRV files (DVD quality) are more than enough. So no I'm am not devastated and inconsolable if I run 4K instead of 5.3K along with the LRVs for 5 - 45 minute session mostly in NC heat. I simply take basic steps to use the cars, cameras etc within their limits for that use and the present conditions.
I'm not doing cinematic pixel peeping, moreso the paralysis-of-analysis peeping is at the data so as to be able to find course time improvement. Different use than some using the camera for mostly NON-action, stating they jogged and the GPS rocked etc. Way different use, that's all, hope that you can realize that some actually do action activities with these lil wonders. For your use 10 hz GPS is way more than needed, for some others the drop from the prior 18hz is a concern.
If I leave my multimeter in direct sunlight for say 15 minutes, the LCD overheats...so I don't do that so that I can use the device for it's purpose. Same with my iPhone, those overheat easily too, and faster than GoPro screens do. Shrug you just deal with stuff in motorsports, solve issues and onto the next.
But there is no pixel peeping in video. No one is blowing up pictures at 400% like stills fanatics do. Video quality is evident on 4K 55" TVs, on monitors always viewed up close, and on smartphones also seen up close in standard use.
They DO apply to everyone, the attitude that is. When I had a track session about to begin again I went over to the car to get it ready (and myself). Check all sorts of things. When I saw that the top of windshield mounted GoPro showed overheat yet was not on...it occurred to me that the SE sun for a couple mid-day hours was a factor. So...remove the camera when parked...pop a baseball cap over it. Same with helmets and gloves...sit them in the shade or AC before an upcoming session. You do what is needed. If I am worried about overheating a device like an iPhone or a GoPro I take steps. For a GoPro in a car mount scenario,.(i run 2-3-4 of them) some are happiest battery OUT...door cracked or OFF. And separate power.
It's just a prepare for your use scenario in the end. Don't run out with a new device with unknown settings and slap in any card with any specs for the Cinema capture of the decade and then complain you got an SD error or overheating. You test at quiet times, slow format in a PC fairly often, keep ALL firmware versions in case you want to backtrack.
You also want to do things like backup your work lol.
It's just a prepare for your use scenario in the end. Don't run out with a new device with unknown settings and slap in any card with any specs for the Cinema capture of the decade and then complain you got an SD error or overheating. You test at quiet times, slow format in a PC fairly often, keep ALL firmware versions in case you want to backtrack.
You also want to do things like backup your work lol.
Great. Why don't you show us your work?
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Well, I might be in a way - (but not pixel peeping intentionally) - viewing 1080 or 2.7k footage on a 4k 17" mini led laptop monitor or a 38" lcd monitor - is just not good.
Things do look blurry.
It's cooled below 75F here, and now the GPH10 runs 4k/60 with movement without overheating up to 45 minutes before I make a battery change.
Yes. That was my point - because we look at monitors close up (laptop or desktop) and on big TV's or on cellphones close-up we do not need to blow up pictures to pixel peep like stills pixel peepers. It is part of natural video viewing. And thus we do see the blurriness of resolutions below FullHd or 4K.
Yes, mini-LED laptop monitors, especially at 1500 nits, are great. It's why I never create videos now less than 4K, except maybe to check very high-speed.
Once you have shot in 5.3K, 4K does not cut it...
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Isn’t that the truth? 5.3k just ruined me LOL
I loves Stan’s pronouncement of “Never having a problem” and his looking down his nose at any other use case, other than his. Wanna know why you haven’t had an overheat yet Stan? You don’t film long enough. What’s a typical track session for you last 20 minutes worth of a DE (Drivers Education) Run. Windows are down so there’s an HUGE amount of airflow through the cabin of the car? Amiright?
Here’s the deal, use any of these cameras long enough and they will “F you in the drive through!” Usually at a point when a reshoot is impossible, like the Orchestra is coming around the clubhouse turn during Beethoven’s ninth or your ex porn star girlfriend has the perfect mouth open eyes rolled back in her head expression on her face.
The Gopro 9 was an evolutionary step forward in performance and reliability. The GoPro 9 brought me back to the brand. I wound up with a 10 in a trade and it’s higher performing chip now puts it at greater risk of shut down at inopportune moments.
Using a metal cage to mitigate heat build up for me is an absolute must.
Umm I've got some fill-a-512gb clips for Lemons. You just set things up for the situation.
So if I needed to do a long video, I would not load in a 3/4 full 32 gb card last formatted 2 years ago and then rage that it cut off lol. ===> prepare in advance. Then, you won't have issues with overheating, by taking basic steps.
Did some surveilance to catch a raccoon doing some damage. So I set the bit rate to 15 via Labs to go something like 10 hours overnight. He was opening up a mailbox door!! With the small amt of motion the quality is decent. I knew to use external power rather than raging the battery ran down too fast.
Just prepare is the thing,.
You can really help blurriness with bit rate btw, really helps something like an LRV. Massive improvement if you just need the video for a reference view to go along with racecar data. Via labs, and yet once again you prepare for that use.
Here's some key data from an autocross run (using GoPro's GPS and IMU data) in which the GTR had a suspension bind issue (circled in red). Video for this was incidental and secondary to the woe. Not the main goal. And no, zero overheating despite direct sun on the camera for hours. Cuz prep and it gets hot in the SE.
So if I needed to do a long video, I would not load in a 3/4 full 32 gb card last formatted 2 years ago and then rage that it cut off lol. ===> prepare in advance. Then, you won't have issues with overheating, by taking basic steps.
Did some surveilance to catch a raccoon doing some damage. So I set the bit rate to 15 via Labs to go something like 10 hours overnight. He was opening up a mailbox door!! With the small amt of motion the quality is decent. I knew to use external power rather than raging the battery ran down too fast.
Just prepare is the thing,.
You can really help blurriness with bit rate btw, really helps something like an LRV. Massive improvement if you just need the video for a reference view to go along with racecar data. Via labs, and yet once again you prepare for that use.
Here's some key data from an autocross run (using GoPro's GPS and IMU data) in which the GTR had a suspension bind issue (circled in red). Video for this was incidental and secondary to the woe. Not the main goal. And no, zero overheating despite direct sun on the camera for hours. Cuz prep and it gets hot in the SE.
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Lemons? As in 24 hours of Lemons? What “motorsports association” do you belong to there in North Carolina? NASA, PCA? Are you actually racing or just doing DEs and track days?
Are you insinuating that I don’t know how to prep for and set up a video shot? I’m pretty sure I can format a V30 512 GB card right before I load it in the camera then load said camera into an aluminum cage, chosen expressly for heat dissipation. Then I think I can handle mounting said cage to the tripod or the wall or whatever I happen to be shooting from that particular day. Then I’m pretty sure I can check the electrical connections to the external power supply and make sure that the cameras getting power and nobody’s going to trip over said Power cord. Next I can handle connecting to quick on an iPad dedicated to that particular camera for control.
See above.
Nobody but you has even mentioned using a gopro in this manner. So let me get this straight? Your using the LRV as what a? Some from of Picture in Picture? And your wanting to improve the low resolution video? As Farr as I know LRV are only meant to be used as an App preview? Ya know what, I and practically anyone I know does with LRV files? Delete them before downloading the actual MP4 files for editing.
Ok wait a minute, earlier you were extolling the virtues of your baseball cap sun shade and now your leaving the camera in the sun for hours?
Really? It gets hot in the South east? ya don’t say? The worst years of my life were spent in Jacksonville North Carolina at Camp Lejeune, 1999 to 2007. The Try running a PFT in 99 degrees and 90% humidity
ya know it’s bad when your looking forward your next tour in Iraq to get out of jville. I miss the Carolinas less than I miss Okinawa.Overheating In the GoPro 10 is a real issue, I haven’t had a chance to dig into the 11s heat performance or possible lack there of...
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