business theory, disruptive innovation is innovation that creates a new market and value network or enters at the bottom of an existing market and eventually displaces established market-leading firms, products, and alliances
Makes one wonder to what extent terrorism had on the market. I recall a period of time when any camera usage was frowned upon due to potential terrorism plotting.The anti-camera hysteria is real.
- 10yrs ago, I can go to the mall with a small canon t2i dslr, today you will be
️ Stop by mall security guards escorting you out of the mall
I've never had a fish or a mountain complain about whether I'm using a Canon P&S, Oly Tough, Oly M43 or Nikon FF camera.The anti-camera hysteria is real. While Idedicated camera for its gadgetry, it's becoming less convenient & invite more hostility. To me, the issue isn't about arguing if smartphone is killing camera sales, but about the real world hostility one experience using camera in the real world. Outside our dpr discussions bubble, using dedicated camera in 2022 invites more trouble than its worth.
I live in the Hudson Valley. It's a heavy tourist area and there are cameras of all kinds, and smartphone cameras. It's a bit of an artist's mecca.Reads like you live in the wrong place. As for malls, its a private property, I was being stopped from shooting 20 years ago in malls and some public but private buildings in Vancouver. No big deal, its private property.Sorry but I see the opposite. My "observable reality" is dedicated camera is dead in term of both usage and sales. . The clarify what I mean:
The anti-camera hysteria is real. While I
- 10yrs ago, Dslr with heavy super telephoto lens were common in my college & high school yards carrying by Dads shooting their children's sport. But today carrying such gears to school will likely get you arrested.
- 10yrs ago, Dslr and Long Zoom P&S were common in Anaheim Disneyland but today it's nearly all smartphone. Last time I was there, I saw only 3 canon carrying by old Asian tourist in a crowds of hundreds
- 10yrs ago, I was able to used my bounce flash inside a restaurant with poor lightning. Today, most restaurants don't allow external flashes from dslr or mirrorless
- 10yrs ago, I can go to the mall with a small canon t2i dslr, today you will be
I agree with this statement somewhat. In my experience, I can't even give my older camera to my niece, she simply refuse to use a dedicated camera.
Have phones slowed down camera sales, sure the same people who bought cameras and just used them a couple of times per year and then it sat on a shelf the rest of the time are simply using a phone now. These are the same people who boast online about how their $1400 phone photo is straight out of the camera and unedited...
Do we actually know this though. If the number of pictures being taken increases 100x, but the number of "craftsmen" only increases by 2x........... it's still an increase that just looks like a relative decrease.
I live in LA, and I can tell U from experience that the 1st negative shift happen after 911 territories.Makes one wonder to what extent terrorism had on the market. I recall a period of time when any camera usage was frowned upon due to potential terrorism plotting.The anti-camera hysteria is real.
- 10yrs ago, I can go to the mall with a small canon t2i dslr, today you will be
female photographers vs the Presumption of Guilt on the 
male photographers. 
I "escaped" California when I was 17. I joined the military and never looked back. I live in Texas now. I'm a cop, but even if I wasn't, I carry a firearm 100% of the time I'm outside my house.I live in LA, and I can tell U from experience that the 1st negative shift happen after 911 territories.Makes one wonder to what extent terrorism had on the market. I recall a period of time when any camera usage was frowned upon due to potential terrorism plotting.The anti-camera hysteria is real.
- 10yrs ago, I can go to the mall with a small canon t2i dslr, today you will be
Another negative shift happen after Me Too movement. Any men carrying big camera is assume to be a pervert. I'm a member of a local mega church with a big security team. We don't allow any photographers with camera gears into our church, since we hired 2 Female photographers as our staff photographers. The sad truth nobody dare to admit is this:
- I used to shoot airplane landing near the parking lot of LAX. Airplane shooters were common around the fences of airports back in the 1990s like birders, you have to get their early to get a spot on the fence. After 911 were all terrorist suspect if we shoot plane landing
- Soon after, carrying dslr with telephoto lens creates undue panic and over-reactions from people.
- Every soccer mom suspect you're a Pedophile
- Every girls think you're taking photograph of them when I was just practicing shooting bird
- Every security guards see you as an open target
Middle-Age photographers are assume to be perverts or Pedophile, and it is much safer for the church to hire Female photographers to avoid unnecessary drama and legal complaints. We have to be practical to be safe.
Most of us are GEARHEADS rather talking about photography behind the safety of an internet and computers. But when you venture out into the real world with your camera gears as a Middle-Age Men, you'll soon realize the Presume Innocence of
The smartphone argument is a red herring. What's prevent me and other Techies from buying more expensive camera gears is the security guards, the harassment, the soccer moms, and every narcissistic girls thinking you're taking photo of her. I shifted my hobby toward cycling instead, there I can spend money enjoying my TOYs without harassment
Entry level has nothing to do with "computer horsepower". Entry level means it's geared toward ease of use at the sacrifice of customizability and control by the photographer. Back in the day, it was a lot easier for people to get good results from their P&S cameras than it was from DSLRs. 10-15 years ago it was common for people to come on DPR complaining that the results from their new DSLR were worse than what they got from their P&S cameras. It's the same today with smartphones.
I'm not going to argue semantics, especially because I consider smartphones cameras when used for taking photos. People simply substituted smartphones for their P&S cameras.
I would argue there are as many serious photography craftspersons as ever. The difference is so many people have easy access to a camera in their smartphone that the percentage of serious photographers has shrunk but their numbers have not.
Thats not the same everywhere, Heathrow for example makes a big thing of good places to photograph planes https://www.heathrow.com/at-the-airport/airport-maps/spectator-areas, and other UK airports have dedicated areas where you can take photos of planes taking off and landing (sometimes for a fee), e.g. https://www.runwayvisitorpark.co.uk/visit-us/park-information/I live in LA, and I can tell U from experience that the 1st negative shift happen after 911 territories.Makes one wonder to what extent terrorism had on the market. I recall a period of time when any camera usage was frowned upon due to potential terrorism plotting.The anti-camera hysteria is real.
- 10yrs ago, I can go to the mall with a small canon t2i dslr, today you will be
- I used to shoot airplane landing near the parking lot of LAX. Airplane shooters were common around the fences of airports back in the 1990s like birders, you have to get their early to get a spot on the fence. After 911 were all terrorist suspect if we shoot plane landing
I guess it is all in the semantics. Wedding and portrait business is still strong, I am sure Disney photos still sell enough to make it worthwhile, but most categories are down due to the market being flooded with images. Stock agencies? Ask anybody in em. Photo journalists? Corners cut everywhere. I suppose your definition of what constitutes a craftsmen in general could shape this narrative, but I think fewer are making a decent living selling images, and to me that strongly suggests a reduction of the number of craftsmen and an increase in hobbyists instead.
To me, the wedding and portrait business is as strong as ever, but almost every other category seems down. Can you think of another category of photography where pros are making a living wage selling images?
I think we're on the same page. Semantics may be tripping things up. If we equate entry level with ease of use then the other end of the spectrum would be professional equals difficult to use? I'm just having fun with language here but a professional camera can be easy to use and a point and shoot. We need to separate out the photographer from the camera, to make easy/hard calls.
I wasn't restricting my argument to pro photographers. There are a lot more serious amateurs than pros and always have been.
In my film days, I never once considered shooting a picture of my lunch plate to send instantaneously to a colleague in another city. The cellphone has enabled many such genres that I think the camera makers need not miss. I think that the cellphone is the interruptive technology that has already overtaken the lunch plate brag genre as illustrated in the figure below. And it always will for all those genres dependent on interconnectivity and fitting in your pocket.
business theory, disruptive innovation is innovation that creates a new market and value network or enters at the bottom of an existing market and eventually displaces established market-leading firms, products, and alliances
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People NEVER needed a dedicated camera. That's why the Brownie Hawkeye and the Instamatic ruled the photography world for 50 years!!!
