My experience so far with the Tamron 35-150 f2-f2.8 coming from Sony G 24-105 f4

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So I got the much hyped Tamron monster couple of days ago. Until now I had the Sony G 24-105 f4, the Sony GM 35mm f1.4 and the Tamron 150-500 f5-f6.7. Camera is the A7 IV.

The 24-105 f4 was the first Sony lens I bought coming from Panasonic S1 also with 24-105 f4. Overall it's been a fine lens but always found it a bit boring, the Panasonic version had more micro-contrast so things popped out more, sharpness wise they're about equal. Sony OSS in the 24-105 seems inferior to Panasonic OIS. Anyways, changed to Sony for the AF-C, never going back to the DFD horror.

Fast forward I got the Sony GM 35mm f1.4 and the quality blew me away compared with the 24-105.

So few months later arrives the Tamron. Observations from a non-professional use:

1. It's HUGE, I knew this already but when mounted in the A7 IV you really notice the extra 5cm of length and additional thickness (vs 24-105). Build quality wise it feels a bit "plasticky"for the price, actually I like the 150-500 a bit better. The 24-105 feels better in the hand and it's more comfortable to hold.

2. The WEIGHT. This is a tough one. After you pick it up you instantly notice the weight, and it's always present. After one hour shooting the kids my left hand that holds the lens was starting to feel sore. As a walk-around lens I'm not sure if it's going to work.

3. IQ is great. Fantastic. It really is, the difference in rendering, sharpness, contrast, pop, etc is substantial compared with the 24-105 f4. The Tamron is really not far from the 35mm 1.4GM. My copy is sharp wide open at all focal lenghts, there is a caveat however:

- The longer the focal lenght the more MFD is. That is fine, but I observed that at 150mm f2.8 focusing in close objects (1-2m away) the lens would be quite soft. This doesn't happen if you focus far away, everything is very sharp in this case. Closing down the lens to f5.6 improves sharpness a lot when focusing in close objects at 150mm. This behavior is not present at 35mm f2 and starts to appear progressively mid range. The softness when close focusing at 100mm f2.8 is less pronounced than at 150mm.

4. IBIS works very well. This makes you realize how bad OSS is in the 24-105 f4, I absolutely don't miss it and I get similar results at the shared FL between the 24-105 and the 35-150. I can get sharp shots at 150mm at 1/30.

5. Usability is also better than the 24-105. The Zoom ring is MUCH better dampened than in the Sony 24-105, and it allows for smooth pulls. Focus ring is also very nicely dampened allowing for nice MF.

6. AF. In general it works well and it is faster to grab focus than the 24-105G, however there are also caveats:

- When pulling focus with AF from far/infinity to close focus this is not smooth, feels like "jumping", this is visible in Gerald Undone's review. Also sometimes it wobbles before locking focus. The 24-105 does not do this. Perhaps this can be improved via firmware, certainly the Tamron 150-500 also feels a bit more consistent.

- Ocasionally hesitates/fails to grab focus.

- Tracking objects moving quick and unpredictable (kids) wide open at longer FL/thinner DOF is sometimes problematic and the Eye won't be in focus. Closing down the lens (f4) improves this.

Overall AF is fine, but the Sony 24-105G is more consistent and predictable (within it's capabilities)


In conclusion, very nice lens, fantastic IQ but with important caveats in weight/size/MFD/AF consistency. I need to try to get used to the size/weight, to see if I keep it or it goes back, the problem is there is nothing like this in the market, the 24-70 + 70/180-200 combo seems less practical as a walk-around setup with the family.
 
Thanks for the feedback on the Tamron 35-150 f2-2.8.

This is a lens I am seriously considering.
I too have a somewhat similar setup (sigma 24-70 2.8 dg dn, Sony 35mm 1.4 GM).

I really like the results from the Sony 35mm GM, and it was my main lens on a trip to Europe and it didn’t disappoint. But it also made me realize that I needed a bit more flexibility with similar results.

The Tamron really seems to fit the bill, even though it’s heavy and large. The benefit of using just one lens, makes the size and weight, worth it.

Looking forward to hearing more about this lens.
 
I will have to watch for the wide open close up focus at 150mm then for portraits. So far I haven't noticed this yet perhaps I was not looking. I also have done still life wide open and haven't noticed anything...

Agreed all the other points. Especially the wobble, I don't understand under which conditions it does this, yet I think it is more in AF-S, as is other lenses with my Sony A7RIIIa.

The only thing that drives me crazy is the customisable button on the bottom. This lens is so heavy one. constantly supports the lens there and inadvertently press it going to manual focus. In Tamron's utility there is no way to set the buttons to none.

For some they'll say the flare is overwhelming. For me it is only when the sun hits directly on the lens, and there for portraits it is a nice heavy flare that has an effect. I suppose for landscapes or sports/birding that would be totally unacceptable.

My idea of having one lens covers all for people photography seems to have been met, now In just have to decide between a Tamron 17-28 (cheap) Sony 16-35 PZ, or 20mm 1.8 G?
 
I will have to watch for the wide open close up focus at 150mm then for portraits. So far I haven't noticed this yet perhaps I was not looking. I also have done still life wide open and haven't noticed anything...
The softness wide open at close focus @ 150mm is also described in Christopher Frost's review of the 35-150 f2-2.8. Starts at the 7:49 mark


In my experience it disappears beyond 2m or so. Not a big problem as at 150mm f2.8 and 1m of distance to the subject the depth of field is so thin that it is difficult to have the entire subject in focus.

Agreed all the other points. Especially the wobble, I don't understand under which conditions it does this, yet I think it is more in AF-S, as is other lenses with my Sony A7RIIIa.
Yes, it's sporadic but happens. We're still with the original FW, hopefully they'll improve this.
My idea of having one lens covers all for people photography seems to have been met, now In just have to decide between a Tamron 17-28 (cheap) Sony 16-35 PZ, or 20mm 1.8 G?
Yes I'm coming to terms with the size and weight. I have found that the shooting technique helps a lot with the weight and holding the lens towards the front instead of by the back of it reliefs wrist strain substantially.

I'm also considering what to add sub 35mm, as likely the Sony 24-105 f4 G will be sold. I'm considering:

Tamron 17-28mm f2.8
Sony 20mm f1.8 G
Tamron 20-40mm f2.8 (upcoming, release this fall)

Upon waiting for reviews I'm inclining more towards the third option.
 
Thanks for the feedback on the Tamron 35-150 f2-2.8.

This is a lens I am seriously considering.
I too have a somewhat similar setup (sigma 24-70 2.8 dg dn, Sony 35mm 1.4 GM).

I really like the results from the Sony 35mm GM, and it was my main lens on a trip to Europe and it didn’t disappoint. But it also made me realize that I needed a bit more flexibility with similar results.

The Tamron really seems to fit the bill, even though it’s heavy and large. The benefit of using just one lens, makes the size and weight, worth it.

Looking forward to hearing more about this lens.
I'm coming to terms with the weight and size. The weight issue and corresponding wrist strain can be substantially improved by holding the lens by the front of it.

For me it's simply the Sony 35mm f1.4 GM is a special lens when it comes down to IQ and rendering. So is the Tamron 35-150 f2-2.8. The 24-105 f4 G isn't special, it does it's job well, but the output simply does not come close to the first two.

The Sony 35 GM and the Tamron 35-150 render so good that I feel I can send to family & friends the pictures directly SOOC. This never happened with the 24-105 where I always felt I had the give the images the Lightroom treatment before I was happy with them.
 
Quite an interesting first hand account. I just got this delivered - although I am away so I will not get to use it for another month+. I bought this to be my street/portrait lens when I wanted to focus on travel portraits, but still be able to capture wider street/culture scenes. I see it as my 135+35 in one lens; but will keep my 35 for now as I see how I adjust to the larger size and weight.
 
In do mostly studio, a daylight studio 25m2 so the long end is not often used yet when I did fashion or model pictures outdoors recently I used it wide open at 150mm often. Lovely rendering, only the missed focus images was/is disappointing. Absolutely incredible at all focal lengths, fast AF, and for portrait style excellent feeling from wide open to a bit deeper make it a great choice for varied shots without changing lenses.
 
For walk around city hiking I use the tam 28-200 with the 20G in the pocket & 100 400 in the backpack.

If I know it s more portraiture I swith the 100 400 for the 50 gm.
 
Nice report. Thanks for posting.

I've had my copy since January and it was my only E body lens for a couple of months, then I bought a 24/1.8, 45/1.8, and 85/1.8 to use when I wanted to have something lighter and smaller, but I don't use them often, and the 35-150, so far, pretty much stays on my A1 body.

I liked the lens so much that I bought a Tamron 150-500 for a little more reach and a Tamron 28-75G2 for a little less weight but still in a zoom. I STILL use the 35-150 90% of the time on the A1, but I am going on a trip soon and will see how it shakes out.
 
So I got the much hyped Tamron monster couple of days ago. Until now I had the Sony G 24-105 f4, the Sony GM 35mm f1.4 and the Tamron 150-500 f5-f6.7. Camera is the A7 IV.

The 24-105 f4 was the first Sony lens I bought coming from Panasonic S1 also with 24-105 f4. Overall it's been a fine lens but always found it a bit boring, the Panasonic version had more micro-contrast so things popped out more, sharpness wise they're about equal. Sony OSS in the 24-105 seems inferior to Panasonic OIS. Anyways, changed to Sony for the AF-C, never going back to the DFD horror.

Fast forward I got the Sony GM 35mm f1.4 and the quality blew me away compared with the 24-105.

So few months later arrives the Tamron. Observations from a non-professional use:

1. It's HUGE, I knew this already but when mounted in the A7 IV you really notice the extra 5cm of length and additional thickness (vs 24-105). Build quality wise it feels a bit "plasticky"for the price, actually I like the 150-500 a bit better. The 24-105 feels better in the hand and it's more comfortable to hold.

2. The WEIGHT. This is a tough one. After you pick it up you instantly notice the weight, and it's always present. After one hour shooting the kids my left hand that holds the lens was starting to feel sore. As a walk-around lens I'm not sure if it's going to work.

3. IQ is great. Fantastic. It really is, the difference in rendering, sharpness, contrast, pop, etc is substantial compared with the 24-105 f4. The Tamron is really not far from the 35mm 1.4GM. My copy is sharp wide open at all focal lenghts, there is a caveat however:

- The longer the focal lenght the more MFD is. That is fine, but I observed that at 150mm f2.8 focusing in close objects (1-2m away) the lens would be quite soft. This doesn't happen if you focus far away, everything is very sharp in this case. Closing down the lens to f5.6 improves sharpness a lot when focusing in close objects at 150mm. This behavior is not present at 35mm f2 and starts to appear progressively mid range. The softness when close focusing at 100mm f2.8 is less pronounced than at 150mm.

4. IBIS works very well. This makes you realize how bad OSS is in the 24-105 f4, I absolutely don't miss it and I get similar results at the shared FL between the 24-105 and the 35-150. I can get sharp shots at 150mm at 1/30.

5. Usability is also better than the 24-105. The Zoom ring is MUCH better dampened than in the Sony 24-105, and it allows for smooth pulls. Focus ring is also very nicely dampened allowing for nice MF.

6. AF. In general it works well and it is faster to grab focus than the 24-105G, however there are also caveats:

- When pulling focus with AF from far/infinity to close focus this is not smooth, feels like "jumping", this is visible in Gerald Undone's review. Also sometimes it wobbles before locking focus. The 24-105 does not do this. Perhaps this can be improved via firmware, certainly the Tamron 150-500 also feels a bit more consistent.

- Ocasionally hesitates/fails to grab focus.

- Tracking objects moving quick and unpredictable (kids) wide open at longer FL/thinner DOF is sometimes problematic and the Eye won't be in focus. Closing down the lens (f4) improves this.

Overall AF is fine, but the Sony 24-105G is more consistent and predictable (within it's capabilities)

In conclusion, very nice lens, fantastic IQ but with important caveats in weight/size/MFD/AF consistency. I need to try to get used to the size/weight, to see if I keep it or it goes back, the problem is there is nothing like this in the market, the 24-70 + 70/180-200 combo seems less practical as a walk-around setup with the family.
I love Brand A over B

that’s the kind of comparisons I trust most. Sorry - Friday evenening after half a dozens management calls- PLEASE - evidence, sample images and tangible results and downloadable RAWs or DNGs or screenshots as a bare minimum - otherwise it’s pure fiction.
 
So I got the much hyped Tamron monster couple of days ago. Until now I had the Sony G 24-105 f4, the Sony GM 35mm f1.4 and the Tamron 150-500 f5-f6.7. Camera is the A7 IV.

The 24-105 f4 was the first Sony lens I bought coming from Panasonic S1 also with 24-105 f4. Overall it's been a fine lens but always found it a bit boring, the Panasonic version had more micro-contrast so things popped out more, sharpness wise they're about equal. Sony OSS in the 24-105 seems inferior to Panasonic OIS. Anyways, changed to Sony for the AF-C, never going back to the DFD horror.

Fast forward I got the Sony GM 35mm f1.4 and the quality blew me away compared with the 24-105.

So few months later arrives the Tamron. Observations from a non-professional use:

1. It's HUGE, I knew this already but when mounted in the A7 IV you really notice the extra 5cm of length and additional thickness (vs 24-105). Build quality wise it feels a bit "plasticky"for the price, actually I like the 150-500 a bit better. The 24-105 feels better in the hand and it's more comfortable to hold.

2. The WEIGHT. This is a tough one. After you pick it up you instantly notice the weight, and it's always present. After one hour shooting the kids my left hand that holds the lens was starting to feel sore. As a walk-around lens I'm not sure if it's going to work.

3. IQ is great. Fantastic. It really is, the difference in rendering, sharpness, contrast, pop, etc is substantial compared with the 24-105 f4. The Tamron is really not far from the 35mm 1.4GM. My copy is sharp wide open at all focal lenghts, there is a caveat however:

- The longer the focal lenght the more MFD is. That is fine, but I observed that at 150mm f2.8 focusing in close objects (1-2m away) the lens would be quite soft. This doesn't happen if you focus far away, everything is very sharp in this case. Closing down the lens to f5.6 improves sharpness a lot when focusing in close objects at 150mm. This behavior is not present at 35mm f2 and starts to appear progressively mid range. The softness when close focusing at 100mm f2.8 is less pronounced than at 150mm.

4. IBIS works very well. This makes you realize how bad OSS is in the 24-105 f4, I absolutely don't miss it and I get similar results at the shared FL between the 24-105 and the 35-150. I can get sharp shots at 150mm at 1/30.

5. Usability is also better than the 24-105. The Zoom ring is MUCH better dampened than in the Sony 24-105, and it allows for smooth pulls. Focus ring is also very nicely dampened allowing for nice MF.

6. AF. In general it works well and it is faster to grab focus than the 24-105G, however there are also caveats:

- When pulling focus with AF from far/infinity to close focus this is not smooth, feels like "jumping", this is visible in Gerald Undone's review. Also sometimes it wobbles before locking focus. The 24-105 does not do this. Perhaps this can be improved via firmware, certainly the Tamron 150-500 also feels a bit more consistent.

- Ocasionally hesitates/fails to grab focus.

- Tracking objects moving quick and unpredictable (kids) wide open at longer FL/thinner DOF is sometimes problematic and the Eye won't be in focus. Closing down the lens (f4) improves this.

Overall AF is fine, but the Sony 24-105G is more consistent and predictable (within it's capabilities)

In conclusion, very nice lens, fantastic IQ but with important caveats in weight/size/MFD/AF consistency. I need to try to get used to the size/weight, to see if I keep it or it goes back, the problem is there is nothing like this in the market, the 24-70 + 70/180-200 combo seems less practical as a walk-around setup with the family.
I love Brand A over B

that’s the kind of comparisons I trust most. Sorry - Friday evenening after half a dozens management calls- PLEASE - evidence, sample images and tangible results and downloadable RAWs or DNGs or screenshots as a bare minimum - otherwise it’s pure fiction.
I see you are tired after 1/2 dozen management calls, here is a family pic for you then!

6fc157fd9bba403d9e762c8efd98afc6.jpg

As for the other request, the manners don't warrant spending my time on that! Gotta use Google I'm afraid.
 
So I got the much hyped Tamron monster couple of days ago. Until now I had the Sony G 24-105 f4, the Sony GM 35mm f1.4 and the Tamron 150-500 f5-f6.7. Camera is the A7 IV.

The 24-105 f4 was the first Sony lens I bought coming from Panasonic S1 also with 24-105 f4. Overall it's been a fine lens but always found it a bit boring, the Panasonic version had more micro-contrast so things popped out more, sharpness wise they're about equal. Sony OSS in the 24-105 seems inferior to Panasonic OIS. Anyways, changed to Sony for the AF-C, never going back to the DFD horror.

Fast forward I got the Sony GM 35mm f1.4 and the quality blew me away compared with the 24-105.

So few months later arrives the Tamron. Observations from a non-professional use:

1. It's HUGE, I knew this already but when mounted in the A7 IV you really notice the extra 5cm of length and additional thickness (vs 24-105). Build quality wise it feels a bit "plasticky"for the price, actually I like the 150-500 a bit better. The 24-105 feels better in the hand and it's more comfortable to hold.

2. The WEIGHT. This is a tough one. After you pick it up you instantly notice the weight, and it's always present. After one hour shooting the kids my left hand that holds the lens was starting to feel sore. As a walk-around lens I'm not sure if it's going to work.

3. IQ is great. Fantastic. It really is, the difference in rendering, sharpness, contrast, pop, etc is substantial compared with the 24-105 f4. The Tamron is really not far from the 35mm 1.4GM. My copy is sharp wide open at all focal lenghts, there is a caveat however:

- The longer the focal lenght the more MFD is. That is fine, but I observed that at 150mm f2.8 focusing in close objects (1-2m away) the lens would be quite soft. This doesn't happen if you focus far away, everything is very sharp in this case. Closing down the lens to f5.6 improves sharpness a lot when focusing in close objects at 150mm. This behavior is not present at 35mm f2 and starts to appear progressively mid range. The softness when close focusing at 100mm f2.8 is less pronounced than at 150mm.

4. IBIS works very well. This makes you realize how bad OSS is in the 24-105 f4, I absolutely don't miss it and I get similar results at the shared FL between the 24-105 and the 35-150. I can get sharp shots at 150mm at 1/30.

5. Usability is also better than the 24-105. The Zoom ring is MUCH better dampened than in the Sony 24-105, and it allows for smooth pulls. Focus ring is also very nicely dampened allowing for nice MF.

6. AF. In general it works well and it is faster to grab focus than the 24-105G, however there are also caveats:

- When pulling focus with AF from far/infinity to close focus this is not smooth, feels like "jumping", this is visible in Gerald Undone's review. Also sometimes it wobbles before locking focus. The 24-105 does not do this. Perhaps this can be improved via firmware, certainly the Tamron 150-500 also feels a bit more consistent.

- Ocasionally hesitates/fails to grab focus.

- Tracking objects moving quick and unpredictable (kids) wide open at longer FL/thinner DOF is sometimes problematic and the Eye won't be in focus. Closing down the lens (f4) improves this.

Overall AF is fine, but the Sony 24-105G is more consistent and predictable (within it's capabilities)

In conclusion, very nice lens, fantastic IQ but with important caveats in weight/size/MFD/AF consistency. I need to try to get used to the size/weight, to see if I keep it or it goes back, the problem is there is nothing like this in the market, the 24-70 + 70/180-200 combo seems less practical as a walk-around setup with the family.
I love Brand A over B

that’s the kind of comparisons I trust most. Sorry - Friday evenening after half a dozens management calls- PLEASE - evidence, sample images and tangible results and downloadable RAWs or DNGs or screenshots as a bare minimum - otherwise it’s pure fiction.
I see you are tired after 1/2 dozen management calls, here is a family pic for you then!

6fc157fd9bba403d9e762c8efd98afc6.jpg

As for the other request, the manners don't warrant spending my time on that! Gotta use Google I'm afraid.
I thought your take on it and most of the thread was useful, thanks for sharing. Don't mind joger, he's joger.
 
just a quick comparison to the GM 35 here

and stopped down here - same result

( that's IMHO hard evidence - not even close )

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just a quick comparison to the GM 35 here

and stopped down here - same result

( that's IMHO hard evidence - not even close )

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__________________________________
... having is better than needing
Manners improving, das ist nett! What you ask for is done already:


Perhaps later on I will do a brick wall test with my own copies, sorry not printing charts. Save trees.
 
I didn't know the 35mm GM was that incredible. It's not like the Tamron isn't good for a zoom, yet it is not in the same league as the Sony GM fixed focal, according to those charts.
 
I didn't know the 35mm GM was that incredible. It's not like the Tamron isn't good for a zoom, yet it is not in the same league as the Sony GM fixed focal, according to those charts.
Well no one has said the T35-150 is as sharp as the 35GM, ran a quick comparison at home and one vs another at f2.0 I see the 35GM sharper (not that the T35-150 is soft), but at f2.8 they look about the same.

Quick non scientific test but with models far sexier than those provided by joger. All pictures SOOC non edited.

35GM
35GM

T35-150
T35-150

100% crop, T35-150 left, 35GM right
100% crop, T35-150 left, 35GM right

At f2.8. while my 35GM is a bit better, to me T35-150 is not far, as I said originally, certainly in the same league, and well obviously the T35-150 is FAR FAR FAR more versatile.
 
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I didn't know the 35mm GM was that incredible. It's not like the Tamron isn't good for a zoom, yet it is not in the same league as the Sony GM fixed focal, according to those charts.
Correct - especially on high resolving cameras like an A1 or better an A7R IV on fine high contrast image details.

Landscape and architecture photographers will benefit a lot from the prime. Not a huge surprise though. The GM 35 is the best 35 mm on Sony FE mount.

Additionally it is comparable small and light.
 
I didn't know the 35mm GM was that incredible. It's not like the Tamron isn't good for a zoom, yet it is not in the same league as the Sony GM fixed focal, according to those charts.
Correct - especially on high resolving cameras like an A1 or better an A7R IV on fine high contrast image details.

Landscape and architecture photographers will benefit a lot from the prime. Not a huge surprise though. The GM 35 is the best 35 mm on Sony FE mount.

Additionally it is comparable small and light.
 

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