This is Sony's newest digital mic:
I am looking for real world experience. The products are just a quick search away. But thanks for responding. ;-)
I have the XYST1M, I'm pretty happy with it, although at least on most bodies, if you want to disable AGC you have to use the 3.5mm jumper, MIS appears to force AGC which is why I'm kind of against MIS mics.
It might be better in newer cameras, but the last time I used an XYST1M, to have manual gain I needed to use the 3.5mm jumper - without it, the manual gain would be greyed out. I haven't tried it in MIS mode in a LONG time, in fact I'm not sure if I ever did with the A7M3 (vs. A6500), and the digital MIS interface may be a completely different story.
1. No cable, which can pickup noise.
That's what I am looking for, so I ordered an ECM-W2BT set, plus a lavalier microphone. Hopefully I can get a first impression at the end of next week. ;-)
That one in digital mode will have a hiss since there's no way to set the audio rec level in camera while in digital.
For real world work you rarely get the ideal solution when working fast at a lower level. I am not producing for Netflix. ;-)
Tests will show what we get from fully digital input. At least there are three Db levels for input.
Some schools even accept and appreciate some "unwanted" noise, especially for reportage and info media style work, since such flaws will strenghten the impression of realism and anthensity when listening to the message. Of cause too much will be over the top, but I don't think this is a major problem with digital sound capture.
In addition, how Sony sets up gain controls could be completely different between digital MIS and analog MIS, the latter of which has been documented in the past as being different from 3.5mm on at least some Sony cameras.
Wow, this would indicate that the digital MIS has the same severe flaw as analog MIS - forced AGC!
I just got the b10 mic on a74 and I have it set to auto 0db attenuation. I find it picks up noise very easily. If I press the joystick for af, I hear noise picked up from the mic. Is that normal?After I posted here, I got the chance to work with two digital microphone solutions for the Sony Multi Interface hot shoe: The ECM-B10 and the wireless ECM-W2BT with an aditional lavalier mic. These small units are easy to carry, and discrete when in use.
Both solutions seems to work well for my lower end professional work. Setup is super-simple, and both mics offer clean voice recordings when used properly within the intended range. The signals are pretty robust when imported to Adobe Audition and Premiere Pro. Not much post processing is needed to get okay final results.
After doing simpler reportage style work for a few weeks with these mics, I decided to keep both, as they fill out each other nicely.
Thanks a lot to everybody who chimed in!
I normally use -10 db for noise recording, and this works well when using wide angle and close distance to the subject. I try to avoidhandhelt for interview, except for walking and talking Then I use a wireless mic, bou this solution also have it's noise problems. The most challenging part is the environment you work within, unless you have a decent studio. Most of my work is at location, repotage style stuff. For most productions I need to add some noise cancelling at post processing.I just got the b10 mic on a74 and I have it set to auto 0db attenuation. I find it picks up noise very easily. If I press the joystick for af, I hear noise picked up from the mic. Is that normal?After I posted here, I got the chance to work with two digital microphone solutions for the Sony Multi Interface hot shoe: The ECM-B10 and the wireless ECM-W2BT with an aditional lavalier mic. These small units are easy to carry, and discrete when in use.
Both solutions seems to work well for my lower end professional work. Setup is super-simple, and both mics offer clean voice recordings when used properly within the intended range. The signals are pretty robust when imported to Adobe Audition and Premiere Pro. Not much post processing is needed to get okay final results.
After doing simpler reportage style work for a few weeks with these mics, I decided to keep both, as they fill out each other nicely.
Thanks a lot to everybody who chimed in!
I have to be very gentle in moving the camera else it’s just going to pick up noise.
