Do you visit Zoos for wildlife photography?

Question for all wildlife enthusiasts, do you visit zoos for animal photography? Do you mind sharing your experience, tips and off course images

thank you

- Sagar
Yes. And you can get some excellent photos. Some zoos are better than others for photography; mainly a question of whether you can get an unobstructed view of the animal without a lot of "zoo" gear in the photo. These are my tips:

1. Shoot wide open. You want to blur as much as possible.

2. Shoot over fences. If you can't shoot over a fence, then get the lens right up against the fence. Shoot centered with the holes in the fence, and shoot wide open to blur out any images of the fence. I've put my camera on a monopod and controlled it with my iPhone to shoot over a fence.

3. Shoot animals on top of rocks, hopefully shooting up, to avoid any fence or structures behind the animal.

4. Birds are often tagged. With large birds, shoot the body or head. With small birds, shoot with the tagged leg to the rear.

5. In aviaries, try to get the fencing as far behind the bird as possible, and shoot wide open to blur it out. Don't bother shooting birds that are close to the fencing.

6. In buildings with glass fronted enclosures, shoot as close to the glass as you can, and straight into the glass, to avoid reflections and distortion. I use a reflection blocker (collapsible black with shoot through hole) or a large collapsible rubber lens hood. I made one by combining a regular collapsible rubber lens hood with another that fit over the front of the first lens hood. This will fit right against the glass with some flexibility to tilt the camera.

Finally, don't pawn off your zoo photos as real "wildlife" photos. A good photo is a good photo, don't lie about it.
 
Yes, to get on track and off the politics..

Zoos have evolved away from "cages" into more naturalistic open settings. The question is, which exhibits in a zoo are "photographer friendly." that means unobstructed views with uncluttered backgrounds. That's what you want and you need to let the structure of the exhibit dictate what animals you "focus" on. I'd rather shoot little meerkats running around right near me with clear views than a tiger thru a wire fence or window

Best design has only motes between visitors and animals. Metro Zoo Miami is a great example. Unfortunately recent trends seem to be towards glassing in the exhibit so you animals can be within inches of us. I dislike it and it promotes moronic behavior of our fellow humans. If you must shoot thru glass you have to put lens flush against it. I use a folded rubber lens hood. No flash of course

To me, ideal zoo photos are devoid of any trace of "zooishness" and that means being selective and patient. It also means several trips. In addition to figuring out which exhibits are best you need to get the timing right. When to the animals sleep? When do they get fed? Where will the sun be?

Have fun shooting at the zoo.

LC
 
I go to see the animals. I take along a camera for fun.

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I do not go to Zoos - to me they are not wildlife.
I cannot take wildlife pictures any more due to a handicap.
But I have enough wildlife pictures to edit the coming years
My 'wildlife' was in Africa, Antartica and Svalbard. Not the local wildlife.
Even if the local wildlife probably could give me pictures as good as those from the other places.
So if I need a picture of animal in captivity I might go to a Zoo.
And by the way I have a magnificent Zoo just 2 km away.
But what is wildlife ?
Antartica and Svalbard. Yes.
A private game park in Africa ? It can be if it is big enough. But many of them are not wildlife in my opinion.
Serengeti ? Yes because it is big covering large areas in Tanzania and Kenya.
Okavango area in Botswana ? Yes.
And there are many more areas.
Some days we leave early in the morning and come back hours later with only pictures of the sunrise, morningfog and trees.
Or the rain covers everything.
That is wildlife.
In the afternoon we might have more luck with a lot of animal pictures.
And that is also wildlife.
Or if we locate a polarbear on Svalbard and are able to follow him for a couple of hours.
That is as wild as it can be.
 
Question for all wildlife enthusiasts, do you visit zoos for animal photography? Do you mind sharing your experience, tips and off course images

thank you

- Sagar
Zoos for wildlife photography: no, because it's not wildlife.

Zoos for animal photography yes.

The following pictures were taken 2015 with my FF Nikon and the (at that time new) Nikon 70-200/2.8 VR in the "Schönbrunner Zoo" in Vienna:



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with best regards from Vienna
Thomas T
If we photographers were taxi-drivers we all wanted a 450 HP Ferrari for our job ;-)
A good picture is a good picture, with 6 MP, 12 MP, 24 MP 36 MP or 45 MP. And it does not become better with more pixels ;-)
 
I do – two years into enthusiast-level photography with MFT, I find it a good workout for my skills. In preparation for the real thing, I can experience fairly consistent and controlled conditions to understand which lenses and settings do best for capturing animals, when it comes to things like feather/fur detail, speed/unpredictability, and various lighting conditions.

Some of the newer zoos have elaborate habitats, so it is possible to get practice with a variety of scenarios all in one morning. On a recent trip to a zoo here in Japan, I was able to test my 50-200 SWD and 12-100 f/4 under various conditions, including a nice surprise in the form of a very dark nocturnal flying squirrel habitat. With the following shots from that day, I have included shooting notes, which should hopefully be useful to the OP:

This was probably the most challenging subject of the day – a gibbon, I believe. The adapted SWD is not the fasted-focusing lens on an E-M1 II, but performs quite well. I shoot BBF and M mode, and I think I was using one of the small single boxes with C-AF when I got to this enclosure. I almost always shoot at ISO 200, but will go up to 800 or 1000 if light or shutter speed require. At 130mm I was able to shoot wide open for that focal length, at f/3.3.

This was probably the most challenging subject of the day – a gibbon, I believe. The adapted SWD is not the fasted-focusing lens on an E-M1 II, but performs quite well. I shoot BBF and M mode, and I think I was using one of the small single boxes with C-AF when I got to this enclosure. I almost always shoot at ISO 200, but will go up to 800 or 1000 if light or shutter speed require. At 130mm I was able to shoot wide open for that focal length, at f/3.3.

The gibbon started to warm up, and so I had to shift from portrait thinking to action thinking. I was still in M mode with ISO set at 200, so I started to crank up shutter speed, to 1/1000. Hence the darker result. Kind of moody. For all shooting modes I have the 4-way pad set up to move the focus point around, which will give my thumb a workout for moving targets. I don’t trust facial recognition for people, and anyway it wouldn’t work on a primate, so I just try to move the focus box around the central 50% of the EVF to allow for flexibility in composition while keeping the face in focus. In cases like this I can really appreciate the utility that a joystick on a new camera would provide.

The gibbon started to warm up, and so I had to shift from portrait thinking to action thinking. I was still in M mode with ISO set at 200, so I started to crank up shutter speed, to 1/1000. Hence the darker result. Kind of moody. For all shooting modes I have the 4-way pad set up to move the focus point around, which will give my thumb a workout for moving targets. I don’t trust facial recognition for people, and anyway it wouldn’t work on a primate, so I just try to move the focus box around the central 50% of the EVF to allow for flexibility in composition while keeping the face in focus. In cases like this I can really appreciate the utility that a joystick on a new camera would provide.

At 110mm, aperture closed down slightly f/3.5 and shutter speed 1/1250. Not quite fast enough to freeze all the hair in motion, but enough to demonstrate that the ol’ SWD still delivers, I think. At this point I have shifted to one of my Custom modes, which I have set up for ProCap H (SWD does not support ProCap L) with a single regular-sized focus box and S-AF. Here MFT depth-of-field was my friend as I panned left to right, activating ProCap to hopefully get some balletic poses, occasionally releasing the shutter button completely to then half-press to refocus at a spot where the gibbon would be, like the end of a post. I ended up with dozens of shots after this routine, and kept a handful that had pleasing detail and catchlight in the eye.

At 110mm, aperture closed down slightly f/3.5 and shutter speed 1/1250. Not quite fast enough to freeze all the hair in motion, but enough to demonstrate that the ol’ SWD still delivers, I think. At this point I have shifted to one of my Custom modes, which I have set up for ProCap H (SWD does not support ProCap L) with a single regular-sized focus box and S-AF. Here MFT depth-of-field was my friend as I panned left to right, activating ProCap to hopefully get some balletic poses, occasionally releasing the shutter button completely to then half-press to refocus at a spot where the gibbon would be, like the end of a post. I ended up with dozens of shots after this routine, and kept a handful that had pleasing detail and catchlight in the eye.

This orangutan was in the adjacent enclosure, which was surrounded by a combination of bars, netting, and foliage. This all made for challenging focusing. The E-M1 II does not have subject recognition, and its autofocus often stayed locked on the bars despite using the smallest focus box. I have the +M manual focus option activated, and both lenses allow manual focusing on the fly. Here I found that I had to close down the aperture a bit in order to get the entire broad face in focus. Once again I was pleased with the SWD’s detailed rendering. It is definitely not as sharp as the 12-100, but I needed the extra distance, as I was standing apart from a large crowd that had gathered to see feeding time. Still at ISO 200, which was a bit of a challenge as it required a shutter speed of 1/160 and the orangutan was still ambling around as I took this (one of many shots).

This orangutan was in the adjacent enclosure, which was surrounded by a combination of bars, netting, and foliage. This all made for challenging focusing. The E-M1 II does not have subject recognition, and its autofocus often stayed locked on the bars despite using the smallest focus box. I have the +M manual focus option activated, and both lenses allow manual focusing on the fly. Here I found that I had to close down the aperture a bit in order to get the entire broad face in focus. Once again I was pleased with the SWD’s detailed rendering. It is definitely not as sharp as the 12-100, but I needed the extra distance, as I was standing apart from a large crowd that had gathered to see feeding time. Still at ISO 200, which was a bit of a challenge as it required a shutter speed of 1/160 and the orangutan was still ambling around as I took this (one of many shots).

Another shot to demonstrate practice with manual focus through multiple obstructions, and also working on composition. By this time the orangutan had sat down to wait for the zookeeper to come out with the food, but was still moving its head and hand. So, timing was important.

Another shot to demonstrate practice with manual focus through multiple obstructions, and also working on composition. By this time the orangutan had sat down to wait for the zookeeper to come out with the food, but was still moving its head and hand. So, timing was important.

Just a context shot from my phone to show the crowd gathering around the enclosure, and also the impressive structure provided to the orangutan. It did not climb up there while I was present, unfortunately. What looks like dust on the lens is a grasshopper that flew into the shot!

Just a context shot from my phone to show the crowd gathering around the enclosure, and also the impressive structure provided to the orangutan. It did not climb up there while I was present, unfortunately. What looks like dust on the lens is a grasshopper that flew into the shot!

One shot from the aforementioned flying squirrel habitat. This was just a wild attempt with the 12-100, taken through the enclosure window and relying on image stabilization at ISO 1000 and a longish exposure. If I had another try at this, I would bring my aquarium cone to minimize window glare, and maybe my adapted EF 100mm f/2 and a speedbooster.

One shot from the aforementioned flying squirrel habitat. This was just a wild attempt with the 12-100, taken through the enclosure window and relying on image stabilization at ISO 1000 and a longish exposure. If I had another try at this, I would bring my aquarium cone to minimize window glare, and maybe my adapted EF 100mm f/2 and a speedbooster.

Another lower-light shot. This one was taken through a fence, which is partially visible but hopefully not too distracting. Here I was trying once again to keep ISO low, which meant straddling the boundary of adequately fast shutter speeds to freeze motion. I am not sure I completely succeeded, but the overall look is pleasing to me. The light was captured in a way that highlights the fur patterns and textures, and I learned that it is not required for the eyes to be visible in order to illustrate an expression.

Another lower-light shot. This one was taken through a fence, which is partially visible but hopefully not too distracting. Here I was trying once again to keep ISO low, which meant straddling the boundary of adequately fast shutter speeds to freeze motion. I am not sure I completely succeeded, but the overall look is pleasing to me. The light was captured in a way that highlights the fur patterns and textures, and I learned that it is not required for the eyes to be visible in order to illustrate an expression.

This zoo was promoting its recently-born polar bear cub, but apparently the birth occurred several months ago. So, a larger subject than anticipated. But still fun to practice composing parent-child shots. Here I was trying to get interesting foot positions, while using aperture changes to try balancing sharp fur detail and a bit of background blur.

This zoo was promoting its recently-born polar bear cub, but apparently the birth occurred several months ago. So, a larger subject than anticipated. But still fun to practice composing parent-child shots. Here I was trying to get interesting foot positions, while using aperture changes to try balancing sharp fur detail and a bit of background blur.

Zoo penguins are fun to watch, but perhaps less interesting to photograph (at least for me) due to the very visible wing and foot tags. This time, rather than giving up, I tried to wait until I could find a pose that hid both as much as possible. Lately I have come to appreciate overcast skies a little more, even though shutter speeds go down, which can be a challenge when a bird is moving frequently, like this one grooming. At times they do pause, or – as with most animal movements – there is a period of deceleration that can be captured when using a burst shooting mode.

Zoo penguins are fun to watch, but perhaps less interesting to photograph (at least for me) due to the very visible wing and foot tags. This time, rather than giving up, I tried to wait until I could find a pose that hid both as much as possible. Lately I have come to appreciate overcast skies a little more, even though shutter speeds go down, which can be a challenge when a bird is moving frequently, like this one grooming. At times they do pause, or – as with most animal movements – there is a period of deceleration that can be captured when using a burst shooting mode.

None of these are award winners, of course. More like practice notes for the shooting journal. Over the past year especially, I have come to see wildlife photography as a sport in its own right. So to me, places like the zoo and the canals near my home are like practice fields. Good luck honing your skills!
 
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No! I can't see the point.
 
To continue the train of thought from some of the above posts.

It seems incredibly unnatural to go to a garden or a arboretum and take pictures of flowers. After all, they are not there “naturally“ as they would be in the wild. They were planted there artificially. Probably have also had man-made fertilizer applied to them, and a man-made landscape watering system applied to them. Take no pictures of any man-made lakes, streams, or artificial waterfalls. I mean, what’s the point?

Tsk tsk… 😊 (and yes… I’m joking)

Happy Shooting

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Dave
 
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The reasons are simple:

I really enjoy seeing the animals.

I also enjoy trying to get nice photographs of them.

Here in the UK unless there is an escapee, we have no chance of seeing leopards, tigers, apes, giraffes, reptiles, stick insects, etc, etc.

I don't like seeing large birds kept in restricted captivity, but other than that I applaud our UK zoos. They do a wonderful job of trying to ensure the animals mental and physical well-being.

Without zoos I fear many species will soon be extinct.

So the final reason I go to zoos and snap away is because my money will hopefully help protect certain species.
 
I don't visit Zoo's ever.
 
Question for all wildlife enthusiasts, do you visit zoos for animal photography? Do you mind sharing your experience, tips and off course images

thank you

- Sagar

And kids love it.
 
Question for all wildlife enthusiasts, do you visit zoos for animal photography? Do you mind sharing your experience, tips and off course images

thank you

- Sagar
Interestingly if entering a Nature (rather than Wildlife) competition administered by the Photographic Alliance of Great Britain (PAGB), then the rules state:

"Images entered as Nature can have landscape, geologic formations, weather phenomena, and extant organisms as the primary subject matter. This includes images taken with the subjects in controlled conditions, such as zoos, game farms, botanical gardens, aquariums and any enclosure where the subjects are totally dependent on man for food."

Whether or not you agree with these rules (I personally don't) it does mean in some UK competitions zoo images can be entered in nature competitions.

Mike
 
Question for all wildlife enthusiasts, do you visit zoos for animal photography? Do you mind sharing your experience, tips and off course images

thank you

- Sagar
I visit zoos and wildlife parks.

Some zoos offer better opportunities than others. Visited a very nice wildlife park in southern Sweden, and there is a good place in Kent down near Canterbury. Wroclaw zoo is quite good.

As with motorsport, wire is no big obstacle if you can get close enough to throw it totally out of focus.
 
To continue the train of thought from some of the above posts.

It seems incredibly unnatural to go to a garden or a arboretum and take pictures of flowers. After all, they are not there “naturally“ as they would be in the wild. They were planted there artificially. Probably have also had man-made fertilizer applied to them, and a man-made landscape watering system applied to them. Take no pictures of any man-made lakes, streams, or artificial waterfalls. I mean, what’s the point?

Tsk tsk… 😊 (and yes… I’m joking)

Happy Shooting
There is a lot of difference between a looked after garden and a gibbon in a concrete enclosure as in a post above.
 
trust me that is some serious wild life there, don't need to go to a zoo
 
Yes. I visit the local zoo (Chaffee Zoo, in Fresno, CA) every couple of months to photograph the animals and I have visited the San Diego Zoo and San Diego Zoo Safari Park multiple times while on extended business trips to San Diego. Earlier this year, my oldest daughter and I visited the Los Angeles Zoo when I traveled to Torrence to drop off a telescope at Celestron for repair. I even let her try my Oly 100-400 lens on her camera, but only a little. :-)

I will never visit these animals in the wild because of my age (64 next week) and the fact that their homes are far down my list of places I want to visit before I am too old to travel. So, zoos are my best bet to see and photograph "exotic" animals.

Are animals in zoos "wildlife"? Yes, just not in their natural setting. So, I call it "mildlife" and my photography at zoos is closer to portraiture than it is to in-place wildlife photography.

Here is one example, which is an edited version of an image I first posted last October after my trial of the Oly 100-400 at the local zoo.

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This link leads to a few of the unedited images from that zoo visit: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65591217

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Question for all wildlife enthusiasts, do you visit zoos for animal photography? Do you mind sharing your experience, tips and off course images
I have visited a Wildlife Park near Palm Springs, California: THE LIVING DESERT ZOO AND GARDENS

It is three sections:
  • The Living Desert is a natural setting with more than 450 animals found from Africa to North America.
  • The Zoo is an area where mostly animals under rehabilitation are kept.
  • The Gardens is an outdoor botanical garden
The trail system has several parts:

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Photography along the trails is similar to any outdoor photography. A few samples:

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I went several times with a friend and enjoyed seeing animals in a habitat similar to their natural state.

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Richard
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