If I purchased an older, discontinued camera, but it was "New"

If you buy new from a retailer, the legal warranty applies. This warranty varies by country. If in doubt, ask the retailer.

If you buy it from a private person, even when the box is unopened, it is considered (from a legal point of view) a second-hand camera.
 
Would the warranty still be valid. I'm talking like a TYP 113 totally new.

Thanks

Rick
Yes.
Thank you!!

RIck
Only if it was sold by a Leica dealer, I really cannot imagine a new 113 in a sealed box being on the shelf. If it was part of a stock sale from a store that was closing down I think it would still be classed as second hand. L
There is a lot of "New" stock out there Leica, Oly, Nikon

Thanks

Rick
 
It should be covered by a warranty providing the item is either brand new or open box and never sold and then returned. Also the retailer would have to be an authorized reseller for that brand. It would be pretty much the same for Leica or their major competitors.

What you have to look at is if the seller is a Leica authorized dealer or just someone bought bought up unsold stock from a dealer who went out of business. Another thing I have noticed lately is a lot of eBay sellers offering items listed as open box when in reality they are private individuals who bought the item and just didn't use it and to the camera companies, the minute they bought it, it is technically a used item and may not even have a transferable warranty.
 
It should be covered by a warranty providing the item is either brand new or open box and never sold and then returned. Also the retailer would have to be an authorized reseller for that brand. It would be pretty much the same for Leica or their major competitors.

What you have to look at is if the seller is a Leica authorized dealer or just someone bought bought up unsold stock from a dealer who went out of business. Another thing I have noticed lately is a lot of eBay sellers offering items listed as open box when in reality they are private individuals who bought the item and just didn't use it and to the camera companies, the minute they bought it, it is technically a used item and may not even have a transferable warranty.
They were at one time. Plus it could be "international model" etc I want to talk myself out of it. It's actually an X1, which I dearly loved

Rick
 
I picked up a new old stock Leica M-E from Colonial Photo in Orlando when they were liquidating their Leica inventory after dropping their dealership. When it came time to get the sensor replaced under the sensor corrosion replacement program, there was no issue. I still respect and recommend you check with Leica, just in case.
 
I picked up a new old stock Leica M-E from Colonial Photo in Orlando when they were liquidating their Leica inventory after dropping their dealership. When it came time to get the sensor replaced under the sensor corrosion replacement program, there was no issue. I still respect and recommend you check with Leica, just in case.
This is no longer good advice. The only two M9 series sensors that will not corrode are CCID 15 and CCID 16 sensors. Any previous sensors are subject to corrosion. Leica decided to cash in on all of the M9 models they took in trade and used all of the good sensors they had left to refurbish as many M9 models as they could and sell them through the Wetzler store. Now if you buy any M9 series model and the sensor glass starts to corrode, several of the companies that do IR conversions will repair the corroded sensor but the cost varies between $1000 and $2000 USD. That is an important consideration when looking at any M9.
 
Back to your question. You need to check with Leica.

Years ago I purchased a new 60mm/2.8 macro lens, which had been in the store inventory for years. After purchasing I contacted Leica and they said it was too old for new lens warranty. In my case the lens might have been 5-7+ years old, but still new.

Good lick.
 
Back to your question. You need to check with Leica.

Years ago I purchased a new 60mm/2.8 macro lens, which had been in the store inventory for years. After purchasing I contacted Leica and they said it was too old for new lens warranty. In my case the lens might have been 5-7+ years old, but still new.
The contract of purchase is with the retailer, so normally, the retailer is responsible for the warranty. In case something happens during the warranty period, it is up to the retailer to honor the warranty. They may outsource this to e.g. the manufaturer's representative, but that does not shift the responsibility of the warranty to the manufacturer. Of course, it is often easier if there is manufacturer support, but from a legal perspective, it's not a necessity.

PS - the Macro-Elmarit-R 60 2.8 is a really nice lens, I've owned a copy that was at the time 40 years old.
 
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Back to your question. You need to check with Leica.

Years ago I purchased a new 60mm/2.8 macro lens, which had been in the store inventory for years. After purchasing I contacted Leica and they said it was too old for new lens warranty. In my case the lens might have been 5-7+ years old, but still new.
The contract of purchase is with the retailer, so normally, the retailer is responsible for the warranty. In case something happens during the warranty period, it is up to the retailer to honor the warranty. They may outsource this to e.g. the manufaturer's representative, but that does not shift the responsibility of the warranty to the manufacturer. Of course, it is often easier if there is manufacturer support, but from a legal perspective, it's not a necessity.

PS - the Macro-Elmarit-R 60 2.8 is a really nice lens, I've owned a copy that was at the time 40 years old.
That varies by country.
 
That varies by country.
Yeah that's true, some countries have different, sometime better, sometimes worse legislation re. consumer protection.

I may have overlooked the country of purchase being specified in the thread, so sorry if not all of my comments may apply to the situation at hand.
 
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That varies by country.
Yeah that's true, some countries have different, sometime better, sometimes worse legislation re. consumer protection.

I may have overlooked the country of purchase being specified in the thread, so sorry if not all of my comments may apply to the situation at hand.
Most of the major US photography retailers, offer a 30 day, no questions asked, return period on anything you buy. After that, the buyer needs to register any new product with the manufacturer, deal directly with the manufacturer's repair service, and the retailer is out of the loop.
 
Would the warranty still be valid. I'm talking like a TYP 113 totally new.

Thanks

Rick
From Leica:

New stock of discontinued items purchased from an Authorized Leica dealer would still be covered under warranty, unless the item is sold as “like new” or “unopened” but still a used/pre-owned item. For discontinued models such as the X cameras, repairs/service may be limited by availability of parts, many of which are no longer available. Thank you.

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