Traveling light with a a7R4 + FF or APS-C standard zoom

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Hi,

I am going on vacation zoom and bringing my a7R4, it is not a photography trip, it is a family one and I'm looking for to travel light. I have the FE Zeiss 24-70 f4, this lens is good although a little big to everyday carrying it, so since I have the a7R4 with crop mode, what you guys think of the E G 16-55mm f/2.8?

It is a little small with wider aperture and although not a FF, the quality seems better than the Zeiss 24-70mm.

Regards,
 
The 16-55/2.8 is actually a little bigger, although it doesn't seem that the difference would be significant. I don't know how much difference there is in image quality, there may be some reviews. The aps-c lens does move you down to 26 mp, which would be comparable to use with an aps-c body, of course.

If you have the 24-70/4 and since the 16-55/2.8 is almost $1400, and this isn't a photography based trip, I don't think I'd do it.

The 18-135 Sony aps-c is smaller, less expensive and convenient for travel. But only saves about 4-5 ounces and a little size and A6xxx bodies are pricey used these days.
 
I’d get the FE 28-60/f4-5.6 kit lens. If you have APSC on a custom button, that extends the tele end to the equivalent of 90mm f8.7. Cropping out the centre of an FE lens gives a decent image wide open. I’d add an 85/1.8 for when you need tele in darker situations.

Both lenses are pretty economical and light for the IQ they deliver.

In reality, I’d take my MFT kit, instead of the R4.

Andrew
 
Hi,

I am going on vacation zoom and bringing my a7R4, it is not a photography trip, it is a family one and I'm looking for to travel light. I have the FE Zeiss 24-70 f4, this lens is good although a little big to everyday carrying it, so since I have the a7R4 with crop mode, what you guys think of the E G 16-55mm f/2.8?

It is a little small with wider aperture and although not a FF, the quality seems better than the Zeiss 24-70mm.
That switch make no sense IMHO. You would loose a lot of MP and shoot with bigger lens, which would be f4 eq. lens anyway. 24-70 is not big zoom in FF world, so you will see some size difference only with Sony 28-60 or small primes.
Regards,

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Sony a7RII & a7RIV / Sony SAL 100mm f/2.8 Macro / Minolta 200mm f/4 APO Macro / Sony FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM / Sony SAL 70-200mm f2.8G / Sony FE 200-600mm f5.6-6.3 G
 
Hi,

I am going on vacation zoom and bringing my a7R4, it is not a photography trip, it is a family one and I'm looking for to travel light. I have the FE Zeiss 24-70 f4, this lens is good although a little big to everyday carrying it, so since I have the a7R4 with crop mode, what you guys think of the E G 16-55mm f/2.8?

It is a little small with wider aperture and although not a FF, the quality seems better than the Zeiss 24-70mm.

Regards,
 
Hi,

I am going on vacation zoom and bringing my a7R4, it is not a photography trip, it is a family one and I'm looking for to travel light. I have the FE Zeiss 24-70 f4, this lens is good although a little big to everyday carrying it, so since I have the a7R4 with crop mode, what you guys think of the E G 16-55mm f/2.8?

It is a little small with wider aperture and although not a FF, the quality seems better than the Zeiss 24-70mm.

Regards,
FE 28-60 f4-5.6 will give you a lot of flexibility and make you more popular with your family. Or take a Samyang 35/2.8 and no zoom.
I have been eying Samsung 20 1.4 or 1.8

with your crop ;(is it 1.6?) then would be 32mm also. I have riii so crop is only 18mp but hey back when I had my 20d it was only 8mp so might still work.
 
...I have the FE Zeiss 24-70 f4, this lens is good although a little big to everyday carrying it, so since I have the a7R4 with crop mode, what you guys think of the E G 16-55mm f/2.8?
You might consider the excellent Sigma 18-50mm ƒ2.8. It's very compact and very affordable. I love it for the times I don't want to carry my 'big' lenses.

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In my own travels with family I’ve gone back and forth with this question. I recently exited m43 despite having great results using that as my primary travel camera platform because maintaining three separate ecosystems of cameras was insane. (Pentax APSC, Sony FF, m43) I felt I could do this after getting an RX100IV and looking at the results. The images I am able to obtain from the tiny RX100IV are very good. This tiny camera fits nicely into non-photo travel with family. There are no lens changes to make and it’s small and light and unobtrusive.
Incidentally this isn’t the first small fixed zoom camera I’ve used. my 2016 trip to London and Paris with my two kids, my wife, her dad, and her mentally disabled brother was the first major trip I didn’t take an interchangeable lens camera with me. My carry on backpack was already 30-40 lbs filled as it was with tablets and laptops and spare batteries. I took all of my images on that trip with a tiny Panasonic LX-7 which I do not regret at all. That camera - like the even more capable RX100IV- takes very good images primarily due to a fast capable lens.
Without a camera like this many images of my trip wouldn’t have been possible. I cherish the time I spent with my family and thank my luck that I found out about this type of easy to control high quality small camera - As it has made my non-photo oriented trips able to incorporate some creative photography as well as given me great reportage type images for my memories.
 
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