Im just not happy with Om1 single shot af performance

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Skeeterbytes said:

They don't, however, sport rectangular frames in the finder and the OM1 does not continue cluster AF indication available in the E-M1ii and iii. I miss that.

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Do you mean the all points AF where the AF point boxes light up around the screen as it tries to follow the subject?

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Yes. Like that feature but on the OM1 I can only coax a single and as it turns out, quite small box indicating point of focus. There may be a menu item I'm not selecting.

Cheers,

Rick

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Yep, it's still there.

Menu --> AF Menu --> AF Pg. 2 --> AF Area Pointer --> On2

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Adrian Harris said:

I have shot m43 for about 14yrs and until 4 or 5 years ago only Panasonic. Except for fast action indoor sports, plus insects and birds in flight against busy backgrounds the focus was always perfect.

My first foray with my Olympus em1-mk2 was a disaster. I couldn't even rely on it to guarantee focus on large in the frame anything (depressingly missed a very special steam train ). Anyway I retained my Panasonic gx8 for work purposes for many many months (maybe longer).

Why am I mentioning this, well only last week it realised that I rarely have that happen now. They did improve the firmware a little but Possibly I have just found optimum settings for this camera?

Mind you, I still always shoot a burst of 3 just in case as a guarantee when using c-af.

It's not just Olympus though. Last week out with a Nikon D4 (apparently it's one of the best focusing sports cameras made) shooting friend, I mentioned that unusually that day my Em1-mk2 was struggling to focus (on birds), to which he surprised me by saying, yes strangely so is my D4!

I know it's a pain but hopefully you will find settings that will work.

Just a final thought, have you got the camera set to focus priority before shooting?

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Thank you for sharing your experience. I personally found em1-2 af improved over original em5 I used from the first day of using the camera. Yes firmware did help too.

yes it still wasnt perfect and not sure how you have adapted to using the camera but I just accepted it limitations. I often just used touch screen to touch the target from the screen and it somewhat worked, but it sure was not the best handling situation.

Maybe over time I could somehow learn (or accept) new tricks like you said. But so far I am a bit of a moaner as I spent good money to buy one.

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I still use the original E-M1 and I don't see a problem with S-AF for normal scenes. Mostly I put the focus point on what I want to focus on, half press the shutter to lock focus and recompose.

I would be very disappointed if OM-1 misses focus in situations like that.

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Ditto; I am hopeful the OP's experience is a combination of expectations and technique. By what he/she is describing SAF is worse that on my EM10Mk1, which is hard to believe and surely something that would have come out in one of the numerous reviews that we've seen so far and pre-production model tests.

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Unfortunately most pre-production testing and reviews are not always thorough or only focus on some of the more advanced features. When the E-m1ii was first released it was missing the smaller S-af box and would constantly focus on something outside of the box . This was extremely frustrating and until this was fixed many people reported of missed focus issues. I don’t think they thoroughly test S-AF as the priority is on faster C-AF

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Quite possibly, everyone seem so focussed (no pun intended) on bird photography that the obvious can sometimes get overlooked as everyone assume that it should work as expected. I do hope it's a bug if it works as prescribed, as it won't get fixed otherwise. My 8yrs old EM10 S-AF is very good with I'd say 99% hit rate, and I certainly expect the same at the very least in OMDS new 3x the price flagship camera.

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MerlinTheMog said:

I’d had zero problems with S-AF on my OM-1 and was wondering what the fuss was all about until yesterday when I was taking photos in a fairly dull room and I just couldn’t get my camera to autofocus.
I realised I’d changed one setting the day before which I’d never used before - the anti-flicker in LV which I’d set to 50hz.
I turned this off and the autofocus started working perfectly.
May be a red herring because I’ve not had chance to do any further tests but I thought I’d mention it just in case it’s a useful data point for someone?

Steve

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Ab Latchin said:

Meh. It happens. Every new camera requires some adjustment.

My new gh6 needs me to agitate the way I shoot. My photographers r5 and assistants a73 all have out of focus shots, even in a studio setting!

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elpastell said:

MerlinTheMog said:

I’d had zero problems with S-AF on my OM-1 and was wondering what the fuss was all about until yesterday when I was taking photos in a fairly dull room and I just couldn’t get my camera to autofocus.
I realised I’d changed one setting the day before which I’d never used before - the anti-flicker in LV which I’d set to 50hz.
I turned this off and the autofocus started working perfectly.
May be a red herring because I’ve not had chance to do any further tests but I thought I’d mention it just in case it’s a useful data point for someone?

Steve

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I don't think this was a coincidence. There definitely is an issue with S-AF on low contrast targets sometimes giving incorrect focus confirmation when the image is actually completely out of of focus.

I couldn't reproduce it with all lenses, but it was very easy with the Sigma 56mm and Oly 75-300mm. In another forum someone noticed that the issue went away when turning Anti-Flickr LV to Off, or Auto (rather than 50Hz).
That also completely fixed the (reproducible) issue for me, although others are still seeing this issue occasionally even with Anti-Flickr LV set to off.

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Ahgre said:

It happens with contrast object in daylight. Yesterday I shot several cars headlight in daylight and focus was completely out. I shot 3 different cars and all out of focus. If I get around to shoot them again and again at different places it will shoot correctly eventually, but that still means autofocus system is very unreliable as it does random things way too often. I do wish there will be a magical firmware to fix them all but … really?

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I can already see all the posts saying they do not have any issues with their cameras. Also telling me that I do not know how to use the camera or my settings are wrong. I have been using Olympus since E-5 and used various Oly mirrorless cameras over 10yrs. Ive pre ordered om-1 and have used it for good few months so I know what Im doing.

Here is a thing, if you are those birders who just go out with a telephoto lens and shoot burst, you can skip this post.

If you are someone who pair with a small 1.8 lenses and s-af or c-af single shot here and there then continue.

Indoor, outdoor, moving subject, not moving subject, wtv, I get out of focus shots way too often when shooting single shots and now I have a low expectations of the camera. I shoot my family and I get way too much wrong focuses and its really annoying. I do not even use face tracking because it sux (Yes it's a bold thing to say. But Olympus face or people tracking is far behind the competition and for a camera released in 2022 it sux for computation face tracking. Yes it does work and has improved, but not good enough).

I know all the comments will accuse thag I said such a negative feedback to the great om-1 but it is a true feedback and I bought the camera with the expectation that the af has major improvement. Funny thing is yes it did have a major improvement in af, but only for those listed in the computation target list(bird car train etc). Even that, if there is a branch or fence or something that is in front, Oly af do not pin exactly at the eye but points with a cluster of many af points and it focuses on the front subject more then the actual target. Different brands get around this better.

I know I will get every hate comments but really negative feedback is also important to improve on the camera and can help thoseceho have not bought the camera yet.

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Ahgre said:

I can already see all the posts saying they do not have any issues with their cameras. Also telling me that I do not know how to use the camera or my settings are wrong. I have been using Olympus since E-5 and used various Oly mirrorless cameras over 10yrs. Ive pre ordered om-1 and have used it for good few months so I know what Im doing.

Here is a thing, if you are those birders who just go out with a telephoto lens and shoot burst, you can skip this post.

If you are someone who pair with a small 1.8 lenses and s-af or c-af single shot here and there then continue.

Indoor, outdoor, moving subject, not moving subject, wtv, I get out of focus shots way too often when shooting single shots and now I have a low expectations of the camera. I shoot my family and I get way too much wrong focuses and its really annoying. I do not even use face tracking because it sux (Yes it's a bold thing to say. But Olympus face or people tracking is far behind the competition and for a camera released in 2022 it sux for computation face tracking. Yes it does work and has improved, but not good enough).

I know all the comments will accuse thag I said such a negative feedback to the great om-1 but it is a true feedback and I bought the camera with the expectation that the af has major improvement. Funny thing is yes it did have a major improvement in af, but only for those listed in the computation target list(bird car train etc). Even that, if there is a branch or fence or something that is in front, Oly af do not pin exactly at the eye but points with a cluster of many af points and it focuses on the front subject more then the actual target. Different brands get around this better.

I know I will get every hate comments but really negative feedback is also important to improve on the camera and can help thoseceho have not bought the camera yet.

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Ah, the circle is complete - next. When's the next new, better one, coming out?

John

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