Google new sign in render older MS Outlook unusable

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Got a notice from Google about this. I am on the 2010 version. Anyone know if that will be out of the window after May 30? Any insight?



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This mainly means the old way of "application password" is going to be retired, and everything will be OAuth2.
The "Learn More" info from Google actually lists app passwords as being a potential solution to the issue, not as being the issue itself. Alex posted this in a screencap early on in the thread but here's the direct link.

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255
Oops, it seems I mixed several things up. In addition to OAuth issue, I was also wondering if Outlook 2010 supports password encryption through SSL/TLS, which led me to think app password would not work without the encryption.

Still, I think Alex should change to a newer version of email client that supports OAuth, such as Thunderbird, eM Client, Postbox, etc. If he is willing to pay, I think Office 2021 Home and Business with Outlook 2021 would be the best option.
 
Still, I think Alex should change to a newer version of email client that supports OAuth, such as Thunderbird, eM Client, Postbox, etc. If he is willing to pay, I think Office 2021 Home and Business with Outlook 2021 would be the best option.
Good recommendation! I would have gone that route if it weren't for our requirements to have Exchange features.
 
Does that mean that I'll be OK with Google after May 30?
I can't say for certain, but I believe it will. I seem to recall having to do this a few years ago as well. Creating the App Password worked for me then.
 
This section is from Google's original notification about the new sign in. In the bottom where it said Fix problems, it listed "Use an App Password". I hope it means that with the app password, my 2010 Outlook will continue to work.

Would that be your interpretation too?

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This section is from Google's original notification about the new sign in. In the bottom where it said Fix problems, it listed "Use an App Password". I hope it means that with the app password, my 2010 Outlook will continue to work.

Would that be your interpretation too?
I think that's what it means, too.

However, I think we're on borrowed time with Office 2010. Given that extended support (i.e. including security patches) ended 2 years ago, and you can't keep an email client isolated from the Internet, there will come a time when it becomes a risk too far. That may be when more email servers insist on OAuth2 without the option of some 2-factor authentication.

Rather than wait until I have to switch in a hurry at a time of someone else's choice, on my machines I've recently moved to Thunderbird on some (that does support OAuth2) and Outlook 2021 on others.

Given that I really, really resented having to change, I was a bit surprised to find that Outlook 2021 is better in a number ways than Outlook 2010 (e.g. it doesn't hang for a minute at a time if the mail server doesn't answer the way Outlook 2010 wants).
 
This section is from Google's original notification about the new sign in. In the bottom where it said Fix problems, it listed "Use an App Password". I hope it means that with the app password, my 2010 Outlook will continue to work.

Would that be your interpretation too?
I think that's what it means, too.

However, I think we're on borrowed time with Office 2010. Given that extended support (i.e. including security patches) ended 2 years ago, and you can't keep an email client isolated from the Internet, there will come a time when it becomes a risk too far. That may be when more email servers insist on OAuth2 without the option of some 2-factor authentication.

Rather than wait until I have to switch in a hurry at a time of someone else's choice, on my machines I've recently moved to Thunderbird on some (that does support OAuth2) and Outlook 2021 on others.

Given that I really, really resented having to change, I was a bit surprised to find that Outlook 2021 is better in a number ways than Outlook 2010 (e.g. it doesn't hang for a minute at a time if the mail server doesn't answer the way Outlook 2010 wants).
I hope the app password solves the problem and buys me some time.

At the meantime, I will try to set up Thunderbird in parallel. I will install the notes add-on and experiment with filter/rule and see if it meets my need.

Last resort is to spend some money on the MS Office Plus. I hate subscription and can find justification.
 
I downloaded Thunderbird and tried it out briefly. While the email functions work OK, it is very limited without provision for rules.
Did you see "Message Filters" under the Tools menu?

"Create rules to filter your emails"
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6579?hl=en#zippy=
I am also looking for a place to store my notes. TB doesn't have it.
I don't use any, but there are Add-ons that might be close to what you want:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-us/thunderbird/search/?q=notes&appver=&platform=
I downloaded the xNote.3.2.10tb.xpi file.

How do I install it?

I tried dragging it to FireFox and Thunderbird. FF said it is an unverified file. TB would not allow dragging it over.
 
I downloaded Thunderbird and tried it out briefly. While the email functions work OK, it is very limited without provision for rules.
Did you see "Message Filters" under the Tools menu?

"Create rules to filter your emails"
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6579?hl=en#zippy=
I am also looking for a place to store my notes. TB doesn't have it.
I don't use any, but there are Add-ons that might be close to what you want:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-us/thunderbird/search/?q=notes&appver=&platform=
I downloaded the xNote.3.2.10tb.xpi file.

How do I install it?

I tried dragging it to FireFox and Thunderbird. FF said it is an unverified file. TB would not allow dragging it over.
"Tools" -> "Add-ons and Themes", click the gear icon, click "Install Add-on From File", and browse to the .xpi file you downloaded.

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See if this helps:

https://www.thewindowsclub.com/outlook-cannot-connect-gmail

I had to generate a 16 digit password when gmail changed to two step verification for my wife's Microsoft Windows Live Mail account.

It was somewhat complicated and I can't remember all the steps.
I remember all the steps now! I had to change my wife's Google account password and just spent an hour or so getting her 2012 Windows Live Mail account to work again with the gmail server. Apparently, changing the Google password requires getting a new Google Windows 16-digit Mail App Password.

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I downloaded Thunderbird and tried it out briefly. While the email functions work OK, it is very limited without provision for rules.
Did you see "Message Filters" under the Tools menu?

"Create rules to filter your emails"
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6579?hl=en#zippy=
I am also looking for a place to store my notes. TB doesn't have it.
I don't use any, but there are Add-ons that might be close to what you want:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-us/thunderbird/search/?q=notes&appver=&platform=
I downloaded the xNote.3.2.10tb.xpi file.

How do I install it?

I tried dragging it to FireFox and Thunderbird. FF said it is an unverified file. TB would not allow dragging it over.
"Tools" -> "Add-ons and Themes", click the gear icon, click "Install Add-on From File", and browse to the .xpi file you downloaded.

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Great. Thank you.

I installed xNote, but can't figure out where is it?
 

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