Phil A Martin
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No actually, it has nothing to do with eyes of beholders, it's simply a fact, art has defined how we visualise the world and the way we render it in two dimensional images.
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Is the concept of IQ bad?
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Howard V
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Bob A L wanted to claim the exception for his particular photographs.
A professional sculptor once insisted that for him my photographs were art, when I wanted to just describe them as craft. That’s what I meant, by “eye of the beholder”.
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Howard V
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+1. I’m quite taken lately, by those willing to pay $700 for one of the latest MF lenses that renders mushy unsharp images until stopped down to f/4. (Voigtländer 35mm f1.2). The “character” apparently matters in some way that eludes me.
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The real irony is the so called "Look" is so similar between all photographers. So much then for the so called modern greats.
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Neat.
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Art is not the interpretation afterwards. Art is the act of making the thing.
Phil A Martin
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It was very well received and the IQ perfectly matched the concept he was trying to convey. It simply wouldn't have worked with hi quality high resolution images.
Phil A Martin
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Citations required. I see a great deal of variety in most contemporary photography, which "modern greats" are you referring to?
Howard V
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Thank you. I didn't study art.
I think this one cost me about a dollar:
This lens was expensive -- about $60. In this test shot it's stopped down to about f/8.
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Phil A Martin
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You don't necessarily need to, many tropes from art have been absorbed into our common visual culture. We use them without realising their origins.
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Art teacher told me art class is where you learn the rules you should break.
Phil A Martin
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Isn't that one of the problems here? Many people here are creating images based on well worn art historical tropes but because they haven't studied art history, they don't realise.Art teacher told me art class is where you learn the rules you should break.
You overpaid.
So composition matters the most, after all?This lens was expensive -- about $60. In this test shot it's stopped down to about f/8.
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For many there actually wouldn't be, because becoming good at composition, lighting etc. requires certain tallents which may then be boosted by formal learning and practice - when someone just doesn't have tallent, no amount of learning will help.
The ability to chase the IQ dragon otoh is only limited by one's surplus income and free time and as such will forever be pandered to by the industry.
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Howard V
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Wow, you get good deals!I think this one cost me about a dollar:
This lens was expensive -- about $60. In this test shot it's stopped down to about f/8.
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John Crowe
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Yes, poor IQ can ruin great lighting and composition.
The "concept" of IQ is not new. Daily discussion on the internet certainly is.
When a mentor seriously intoduced me to photography 42 years ago I quickly began honing my skills and knowledge. My search to achieve professional imagery seen in monthly publications, and public displays, eventually lead me to fine grain films, better lenses, medium format, and even large format, many years later. I did that on my own through books, magazines, and fellow photographers.
Those of us who recognized that the first digital cameras lead to a very significant degradation in professional level image quality then sought out the improvements in the technology over the years. Of course all this knowledge and discussion came about through the internet. There were huge developments for the masses just about every year from 2004 until about 2016 which created a ground swell of interest in image quality.
Learning used to be a very private and personal experience. I began learning home renovation from my dad when I was a young boy. Now I go to the internet and get bombarded with new methods and techniques.
The same thing has happened with photography. I have gone from personal mentors to the living knowledge on the internet. The pinnacle of digital image quality was pretty much reached by about 2016. The last six years has been more about different ways of delivering that quality.
Yes, now that I have obtained good tools to photograph with, I find it much easier, and much more fun to concentrate on image making. However, while I continually look to improve my image making, I also continue to make tweaks to improve the image quality along the way too.
The "concept" of IQ is not new. Daily discussion on the internet certainly is.
When a mentor seriously intoduced me to photography 42 years ago I quickly began honing my skills and knowledge. My search to achieve professional imagery seen in monthly publications, and public displays, eventually lead me to fine grain films, better lenses, medium format, and even large format, many years later. I did that on my own through books, magazines, and fellow photographers.
Those of us who recognized that the first digital cameras lead to a very significant degradation in professional level image quality then sought out the improvements in the technology over the years. Of course all this knowledge and discussion came about through the internet. There were huge developments for the masses just about every year from 2004 until about 2016 which created a ground swell of interest in image quality.
Learning used to be a very private and personal experience. I began learning home renovation from my dad when I was a young boy. Now I go to the internet and get bombarded with new methods and techniques.
The same thing has happened with photography. I have gone from personal mentors to the living knowledge on the internet. The pinnacle of digital image quality was pretty much reached by about 2016. The last six years has been more about different ways of delivering that quality.
Yes, now that I have obtained good tools to photograph with, I find it much easier, and much more fun to concentrate on image making. However, while I continually look to improve my image making, I also continue to make tweaks to improve the image quality along the way too.
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